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Hed Kandi
Mar 9, 2009, 3:28 AM
Three Harbour Green


Official Website: www.harbourgreenplace.com
Virtual Tour: http://www.harbourgreenplace.com/virtualtour.html


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/1219356575building.jpg



NEW HOMES: PROJECT PROFILE

Three Harbour Green
Project location: Coal Harbour, Vancouver
Project size: 81 apartments and townhouses, 32-storey building
Residence size: 1,880 sq. ft. - 8,010 sq. ft., 2 - 4 bedrooms
Presentation centre: 18th floor, 1055 West Hastings, by appointment only
Phone: 604-683-3388
Developer: Aspac Developments
Architect: IBI HB Architects
Interior design: BBA Design Consultants
Occupancy: 2012

Hed Kandi
Mar 9, 2009, 3:29 AM
Three Harbour Green signals imminent completion of historic Coal Harbour transformation

Barbara Gunn
Compliments of The Vancouver Sun
Saturday, August, 30, 2008


Three Harbour Green is a Vancouver milepost, the "last spike" in the transformation of Coal Harbour from transcontinental railway terminus to what the developer is calling the city's most prestigious waterfront neighbourhood.

By 2012, and the completion of construction of Three Harbour Green, Coal Harbour's last available site will have been filled in and the area will have fully realize its vision -- as a vibrant, people-friendly community that one Aspac executive says is drawing worldwide attention.

"We have so many visitors from overseas planning departments," says Lance Brown, an Aspac vice-president. "I've hosted people from China, from Russia, Europe, the States, from South America . . . And they all want to come and see Coal Harbour. They all say: 'Show me how you do this on your waterfront.' They're all absolutely amazed by it."

The redevelopment story Brown is describing began in 1993, when Aspac, in partnership with Marathon Realty, began to transform some 47 acres of waterfront between the Westin Bayshore and Canada Place -- lands that were once the site of the western terminus of the Canadian Pacific Railway.

The vision called for a new, upscale neighbourhood, one that would combine residential, hotel, commercial and retail purposes with large tracts of green space.


Three Harbour Green -- the last of three residential towers that will comprise Aspac's Harbour Green Place neighbourhood -- will begin to rise at the corner of Thurlow and Cordova, the Vancouver Convention & Exhibition Centre next door.

When that tower is finished, says Brown, it will be unlike anything Vancouver will ever see again.

"This is the last opportunity for anybody to have waterfront down here," he says. "If you want to get in Coal Harbour, on waterfront, this is the last chance to purchase new. The resale market is always going to be there, but if you want to have a new one, this is it. There'll be nothing following."

There's no question that the penthouse -- it will be a two-level, four-bedroom residence that will have more than 8,000 square feet of living space, 24-foot ceilings and a full rooftop deck -- will be what Brown calls "a one-off."

"When we started out, our penthouses were sort of 3,500 feet. That's now a standard suite for us. They're getting bigger, and bigger. And with this one, we thought, well, it's our last building, so let's throw everything at it...


The penthouses in the first two Harbour Green towers, One Harbour Green and Two Harbour Green, set record prices a few years back -- they went for $6.02 million and $7.75 million, respectively, when they were purchased in 2003 and 2005 -- and Brown says the penthouse in the third tower is also attracting a lot of attention, even though Aspac has so far introduced the homes to private clients only.

"Penthouse buyers are a different breed from normal human beings, so they do take their time," he says. "They'll hunt around a bit. There are only so many of these. I mean, if you look at the whole of downtown Vancouver, and you look at the number of penthouses that are actually sitting on the water -- they're very few and far between."


"We've had purchasers who have a house in White Rock or Lion's Bay or the Sunshine Coast, or even the Vancouver area. ... And we have people who have houses in London and Madrid and Hong Kong -- and here -- and they kind of move between them. Lovely lifestyle, if you can get it."

For those who appreciate truly top-end touches, there's no doubt that the lifestyle at Three Harbour Green will be lovely. The views of Stanley Park, the North Shore mountains and Coal Harbour will be expansive, of course, and the access to the neighbourhood's amenities -- it includes a new community centre, children's water park, marina and extended seawall -- are certain to add to the appeal of Coal Harbour residency.

But it will be the interior finishings of the units -- there will be eight townhomes and 73 condos including the penthouse -- that Brown suggests will truly distinguish the homes.


"All the finishings, everything, is coming from Italy," he says. "The kitchens are by Snaidero. The lime [cabinetry] is called Venus, which is designed by Pininfarina, the guy who designs Ferraris. . . . The closets are by another Italian company, called MOVE. The bathroom vanities are by another Italian company, called L'O di Giotto.

"Virtually everything in the suite, everything that's fixed, is from Italy. ... It's the best. If you want design, you have to go to Italy. That's not knocking anywhere else, but if you really want to show quality, the Italians are still unsurpassed."

(Those finishes will undoubtedly be embraced by the one Italian buyer -- Brown won't reveal his name -- who has "bought in every single project we've ever had.")

Residents of the homes will have access to a 24-hour concierge, as well as two amenity centres, which will house a 70-foot indoor pool, gymnasium, squash court, theatre and "virtual golf" simulator, among other things.

Homes will have full-height windows, ceilings that rise at least 10 feet and balconies with gas fireplaces. Most of the levels will have a maximum of three homes, providing for what Brown calls "very, very expansive living."

Now that the transformation of Coal Harbour is nearing completion, Brown says the redevelopment has surpassed all expectations.

"It's the end of a long road for us," he says. "We've been at this for 15 years, and it's going to take another four years to get this complete, so it's a 20-year journey from start to finish. . . .

"I don't think anybody could have envisaged how successful the development of Coal Harbour has been . . . I've lived in cities around the world, and I can't think of anything that compares with Coal Harbour anywhere on the planet."

metroXpress
Mar 9, 2009, 4:47 PM
^ Hey, thanks for starting this. I love this series...the Harbour Green Series.
I've been to One and Two and I can't wait to see the third one completed. I'll upload a pic I took the other day.

Also, the video tour in the offical site is a must see! I love it: the balcony and
the penthouses.

wrenegade
Mar 9, 2009, 5:29 PM
There are a couple of my photos from the Downtown update thread that can be moved into here as well.

cjohnny4
Mar 9, 2009, 6:06 PM
I love how the rendering makes it look like there are absolutely no buildings on either side of Three Harbour Green for miles and miles! In fact, Two Harbour Green is closer than is depicted by the very small shadow in the lower left of the drawing and the Shaw Tower is across the street on the east side...

Jonovision
Mar 10, 2009, 12:57 AM
Nice tower. And the final image on the virtual tour is amazing!!!!!

sacrifice333
Mar 10, 2009, 1:44 AM
I think they're a little off... most notably that the jewel in the Harbour Green crown was in fact HG2. ;)

metroXpress
Apr 8, 2009, 3:58 PM
Posted by Delirium...thank you! :tup:

here's an update of harbour green III. crane should be coming soon...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3326/3422812931_8b14932359_b.jpg
photo by nathanpachal on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/npachal/3422812931/

SFUVancouver
Apr 12, 2009, 6:16 AM
Three Harbour Green and Vancouver Convention Centre | West
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4533/harbourgreen3andconvent.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, April 11th, 2009

Hed Kandi
Apr 22, 2009, 5:54 PM
dleung over @ SSC has done a nice render of HG3

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5742/dsc09420future2m.jpg

Yume-sama
Apr 22, 2009, 6:06 PM
Sigh. If I win the Lotto 6/49 :P

vansky
Apr 22, 2009, 6:10 PM
ha, yume, if we all think like that then who's going to live in there anyways.

Yume-sama
Apr 22, 2009, 6:19 PM
Nobody I hang out with, that's for sure! :haha:

officedweller
Apr 22, 2009, 6:31 PM
Nice render!
Just wish that tower had retail at the base given its location on the plaza (I don't think it does, does it?).

Pinion
Apr 22, 2009, 6:51 PM
Finally some exterior variation... I like it. False creek should be filled in more so we can cover up all the clones.

vansky
Apr 22, 2009, 7:00 PM
Nobody I hang out with, that's for sure! :haha:

come on, we all know that you are capable of buying the whole thing~~~

Vancity
Apr 22, 2009, 7:02 PM
dleung over @ SSC has done a nice render of HG3

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5742/dsc09420future2m.jpg

nice rendering :yes:

we really do need more office towers in downtown...or new ones in central broadway corridor.

rather_draconian
Apr 23, 2009, 1:24 PM
I do like the way this thing looks too...at least the top comes to a point, which is not too common in Vancouver!

officedweller
Apr 23, 2009, 6:10 PM
it's just the angle - I think it's more of a prow than a point. i.e. like Carina 3 buildings to the right.

SFUVancouver
Apr 23, 2009, 7:11 PM
Nice render!
Just wish that tower had retail at the base given its location on the plaza (I don't think it does, does it?).

No, it doesn't. Nor do the townhouses especially engage with the plaza.

officedweller
Apr 23, 2009, 9:37 PM
Hmm. Perfect for noise complaints.

phesto
Apr 23, 2009, 10:17 PM
No, it doesn't. Nor do the townhouses especially engage with the plaza.

The Thurlow/VCEC plaza frontage was being redesigned as a condition of the DP – so the renderings we’ve seen to date of that part of the project won’t necessarily look like the finished product.

Putting retail at the base probably would’ve required a zoning amendment since the zoning is CD and didn’t allow for retail on the 3HG site. It would be a cool place to have a café or something, but not exactly a hot spot for retail - which is why I'm sure Aspac didn't bother forcing the issue.

metroXpress
Apr 24, 2009, 1:09 AM
Nice rendering. Saw it over there as well...

jlousa
May 1, 2009, 2:58 AM
They've driven in quite a few piles already, looks like they still have a few to go. Crane will be install Tuesday May 5th.

Locked In
May 14, 2009, 12:36 AM
My photo, taken today:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/SgtmrNUz7QI/AAAAAAAAAk4/Ey8HUkEKciA/s800/IMG_9305.JPG

vanman
May 21, 2009, 9:29 AM
Taken by me yesterday:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/nw001-1.jpg

rather_draconian
May 21, 2009, 2:11 PM
That poor black office building (what's its name?)
Instead of views of the harbour and the mountains, its patrons will soon enjoy seeing into someone's living room.

Metro-One
May 21, 2009, 3:41 PM
When they should be seeing more offices...All we need now is Harbour Green 3 residents to complain about civic events at the new convention center. That being said most of them will be over seas tycoons who will never be there.

metroXpress
May 21, 2009, 3:52 PM
I really feel bad for Renaissance Hotel at Harbourside.....
After the Harbour Green series are all completed...the hotel is not even on "harbourside" anymore :haha:

LeftCoaster
May 21, 2009, 8:53 PM
I really feel bad for Renaissance Hotel at Harbourside.....
After the Harbour Green series are all completed...the hotel is not even on "harbourside" anymore :haha:

Don't worry, there have been some murmurings of re-developing it...

I hope they take that god awful black office tower with it too, that thing is just horrible.

Metro-One
May 21, 2009, 9:43 PM
office re-development i hope...

metroXpress
May 21, 2009, 10:55 PM
^ Good to hear :)

phesto
May 31, 2009, 8:18 PM
Update from this morning:

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/993/029bb.jpg

Canadian Mind
May 31, 2009, 9:56 PM
Don't worry, there have been some murmurings of re-developing it...

I hope they take that god awful black office tower with it too, that thing is just horrible.

Any hints as to building dimensions and usage?

LeftCoaster
Jun 1, 2009, 4:37 AM
To be honest I don't know, but it would have to be somewhat substantial to justify knocking down the existing building, rather than just renovating it. It isnt even that old of a building.

PROSTSHOCKER
Jun 5, 2009, 5:06 AM
Don't worry, there have been some murmurings of re-developing it...

I hope they take that god awful black office tower with it too, that thing is just horrible.

Actually, I don't mind that building. Unless something architecturally FAAABULOUS goes in its place (BONUS points for taller office tower), i don't mind it at all. My reasoning is that it is an interesting break from the sea of blue green residential towers. I prefer a mosaic over a plateau of mid-highrise green glass beasts any day.
It's a rare coloured building in Vancouver as far as I'm concerned.

Now that hideous washed out red-purple building in the west end... yeah, that's a whole other story.

raggedy13
Jun 24, 2009, 9:42 PM
Looks like some progress is being made. Some pics I took yesterday:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2464/3656667176_2a875c6fe1_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3399/3655871719_90bcdcf9d2_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3338/3656667868_cbfb6c13e9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3632/3655872649_92142253d5_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3342/3655872981_25bdbde318_b.jpg

vanman
Jun 26, 2009, 9:29 PM
Nice. Looks like it could be above grade before the end of the summer.

Spork
Jun 26, 2009, 10:05 PM
That is one saaaad barrier. :(

metroXpress
Jun 26, 2009, 11:25 PM
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bulliver
Jul 13, 2009, 8:25 AM
Pics from Friday:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2494/3716321436_a2cc9178d1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/badcomputer/3716321436/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/3715510345_9d453faf60_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/badcomputer/3715510345/)

martinishaker
Jul 20, 2009, 8:15 PM
From Gwilli

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gwilli/3739546683/sizes/o/

wrenegade
Aug 19, 2009, 5:27 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2569/3837463022_106e5b0eea_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3470/3837463806_21f65ddda8_o.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30773770@N02/

I'll try and make these a little smaller next time, sorry guys.

SFUVancouver
Sep 21, 2009, 2:24 AM
A small update. The foundations are complete and the core is beginning to rise. A self-erecting concrete pump has been installed. The adjacent excavators should give one an idea of the size of the site and of the core itself.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1711/p1160535y.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, September 20th, 2009.

(2,000th post, by the way)

Locked In
Oct 26, 2009, 1:03 AM
My photos, taken today:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/SuT0kCiJqrI/AAAAAAAABIY/FoSXxLIiSQ4/s800/IMG_0428.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/SuT0laHiULI/AAAAAAAABIc/kwJQx3_5MBw/s800/IMG_0431.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/SuT0m-WoXPI/AAAAAAAABIg/HURsBBuTnwI/s800/IMG_0432.JPG

Locked In
Nov 9, 2009, 1:43 AM
I think there's been some progress here...

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/SvduW3A00yI/AAAAAAAABOU/DYQNSG8bxK0/s800/IMG_2797.jpg

(My photo taken today)

officedweller
Nov 9, 2009, 3:34 AM
That'll be well above grade when the Olympics hit town.

Hed Kandi
Nov 9, 2009, 3:53 AM
Great progress. Thanks for the update!

gillty
Nov 9, 2009, 6:07 AM
ha i just realized the open pit was a set in sanctuary 2 weeks ago (s02,e04)

Vancity
Nov 9, 2009, 8:13 AM
Nice updates. Thx for those pics :)

PROSTSHOCKER
Nov 14, 2009, 1:36 AM
Just made a lazy collage of photos canvassing the site as of this afternoon

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/thesilverboy/IMG_2038.jpg

tada, copyright, etc

mcminsen
Nov 27, 2009, 5:57 AM
Big slab pour today. Steady progress. Looking north.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3118/dsc00736qj.jpg
My pic. Nov. 26 '09

vanman
Nov 27, 2009, 7:20 AM
Cool! Lokks like that pit will be completely filled in by the time the olympics arrive.

Locked In
Dec 6, 2009, 9:32 PM
^ Getting close...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/SxwculV3X6I/AAAAAAAABlc/b17A0ZwSsg0/s800/IMG_3008.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/SxwcvyP36xI/AAAAAAAABlg/NHMJ6EnKTBk/s800/IMG_3009.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/SxwcxNSLpDI/AAAAAAAABlk/64QfragL5hs/s800/IMG_3010.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/SxwcyFpgjgI/AAAAAAAABlo/7UpDqi9QsGk/s800/IMG_3014.jpg

(my photos, taken today)

Delirium
Dec 7, 2009, 11:34 PM
^ thanks.
3HG is getting into the holiday spririt. i like the LED's on the renaissance..
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2699/4165622594_50e715a46d_o.jpg
photo by Diadzine aka Nemen on flickr.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/diadzine/4165622594/

SpongeG
Dec 7, 2009, 11:51 PM
yes the renaissance looks great with the simple addition of the LED's

Hed Kandi
Dec 8, 2009, 1:34 PM
I'm surprised at how quickly this building reached grade.

Locked In
Dec 28, 2009, 12:31 AM
My photos, taken today:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/Szf6CKTnvPI/AAAAAAAAB9E/L_WtBU4xaUg/s800/IMG_3128.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/Szf6DFf9HdI/AAAAAAAAB9I/ZE0py4sTdDI/s800/IMG_3129.jpg

raggedy13
Dec 28, 2009, 9:51 AM
A few pics I took earlier today:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/4221816064_e9cfd38180_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4221817764_1eb5ce62f5_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2586/4221814456_69f41ee18e_b.jpg

Locked In
Jan 17, 2010, 9:49 AM
My photos (January 17):
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/S1LP3z-GtXI/AAAAAAAACNU/EmwvZAFDc_w/s800/IMG_3247.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/S1LP5Lrhr3I/AAAAAAAACNY/xNCNMGOstCI/s800/IMG_3250.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/S1LP6oC7apI/AAAAAAAACNc/GEy1Lw6_7P4/s800/IMG_3251.jpg

Locked In
Feb 28, 2010, 2:25 AM
My photo, Feb 27:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/S4nR97iezpI/AAAAAAAACrE/8mQ1dQY4UQI/s800/IMG_1510.JPG

LeftCoaster
Mar 2, 2010, 3:03 AM
It seems the penthouse for this guy sold over the olympics... some visitor with deep pockets.

jlousa
Mar 2, 2010, 3:07 AM
$22.3Million has to be pretty close to a Canadian record.

LeftCoaster
Mar 2, 2010, 3:13 AM
Here's the article... no mention of a record, but I'm sure its up there.


By: Darcy Wintonyk, ctvbc.ca

Date: Monday Mar. 1, 2010 3:11 PM PT

The 2010 Olympic Winter Games were solid gold for a Vancouver-based real estate developer specializing in luxury suites.

Aspac Developments says it sold $31.8 million in high-end units to people visiting Vancouver for the two-week duration of the Games.

In Pictures: A look inside the multi-million dollar suites

The penthouse at Three Harbour Green alone, within spitting distance to the International Broadcast Centre and nestled on the shores of Coal Harbour, sold for $22.3 million.

All seven suites, including several at the Wesbrook at the University of British Columbia, fetched $46.76 million.

A spokesperson for the developer said the warm weather helped showcase Vancouver's natural beauty and showcase it to the world.

"The Games brought an international flair and level of excitement to our city that, coupled with everything else we have to offer, made Vancouver extremely attractive," said George Wong.

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100301/bc_olympic_real_estate_100301/20100301?hub=BritishColumbia

Delirium
Mar 2, 2010, 3:48 AM
3HG will have a Ferrari for resident use. Owners will be able to book the car for up to four hours at a time. There are no plans to limit how many bookings you can make in a year either. it'll depend on availability. the car is a 'gift' from the developer. at those prices, i can see why.

Aspec will also be holding a draw for residents for a trip on the new Virgin Galactic SpaceShipTwo. i think that's scheduled for next year.

red-paladin
Mar 2, 2010, 4:44 AM
Is it true that many suites in Jameson House were also purchased?

Spork
Mar 2, 2010, 6:20 AM
3HG will have a Ferrari for resident use. Owners will be able to book the car for up to four hours at a time. There are no plans to limit how many bookings you can make in a year either. it'll depend on availability. the car is a 'gift' from the developer. at those prices, i can see why.

Aspec will also be holding a draw for residents for a trip on the new Virgin Galactic SpaceShipTwo. i think that's scheduled for next year.

We're starting to sound like Dubai! Is this commonplace anywhere else in the world?

Yume-sama
Mar 2, 2010, 6:22 AM
Let's all split on a unit, hold SSP parties, and drive around in a Ferrari :D

Hed Kandi
Mar 2, 2010, 3:44 PM
Let's all split on a unit, hold SSP parties, and drive around in a Ferrari :D

And we'll be riding with the top down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxWKQoUlviw

:D :cheers:

Prometheus
Mar 12, 2010, 2:46 AM
Does anyone know how tall the highrise directly to the west of H3G is?

Hed Kandi
Mar 12, 2010, 2:59 AM
Does anyone know how tall the highrise directly to the west of H3G is?

105m

http://www.emporis.com/application/?lng=3&nav=building&id=184332

Prometheus
Mar 12, 2010, 3:16 AM
I am pleased to hear that. The change in elevation should look good.

flight_from_kamakura
Mar 12, 2010, 9:07 PM
wandered by yesterday, and it's looking like the ground floor is mostly done. fast work! should start rising pretty quickly from here out.

also - virgin galactic tickets and a ferrari, that's pretty insane. the coolness of that almost makes up for the horrid blight that was this site during the olympics.

Delirium
Mar 17, 2010, 9:00 PM
here's an update from today. photos by me
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/IMGP4249.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/IMGP4262.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/IMGP4252.jpg

Locked In
Mar 17, 2010, 9:30 PM
^ Great update! Too bad you were over there on such a miserable day :D

I love how these shots contrast with the ones SpongeG posted in the Vancouver in the 1990s thread (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=137418).



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/spongeg/coalharb4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/spongeg/coalharb1.jpg

Delirium
Mar 17, 2010, 9:38 PM
it's unrecognizable. thanks for digging those up.
and your right - horrible day. just horrible :tup:

Yume-sama
Mar 18, 2010, 1:34 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/IMGP4252.jpg

That area is soooo nice. I want to live there when I'm older. I bet I'd live longer.

Because I'd probably go outside once in awhile. And be really far from JapaDog.

idunno
Mar 18, 2010, 1:45 AM
That picture is amazing. Perfect city?

sacrifice333
Mar 18, 2010, 1:54 AM
It's beautiful... and I think it's great that all the Internationals purchase their, because if they knew we called it Cold Harbour... they might bid up False Creek North even further.

delboy
Mar 18, 2010, 2:16 AM
That picture is amazing. Perfect city?

too perfect, as pretty at the area is, it's souless.

Spikester
Mar 18, 2010, 3:13 AM
That area is soooo nice. I want to live there when I'm older. I bet I'd live longer.

Because I'd probably go outside once in awhile. And be really far from JapaDog.

Last summer there was a JapaDog franchise (for lack of a better word) stationed at the Coal Harbour Community Centre on the seawall at the foot of Broughton. Don't know if they plan to bring it back.

Yume-sama
Mar 18, 2010, 3:17 AM
too perfect, as pretty at the area is, it's souless.

It's a nice area for a lazy Summers day. There are other areas much better suited for "fun". Not everywhere can be fun fun all the time :P

It would be a super place to live, with the understanding that you'll need to travel a bit to do... much of anything.

But even then you'd have to be damn lazy, as it's literally a 5 minute walk to Robson St. or wherever from 3HG.

Denscity
Mar 18, 2010, 6:19 AM
Soul comes with age. Coal Harbour is just a baby.

Delirium
Mar 18, 2010, 2:09 PM
imo the most souless and sterile area of the city is the Bayshore development (around the Westin). i think that whole area was a mistake in planning.

coal harbour is getting better now that there;s retail in the area but i still wouldn't live there. not enough sunshine reaches that area of the city.

Coldrsx
Mar 18, 2010, 10:55 PM
too perfect, as pretty at the area is, it's souless.

yes, but improving with art installations and the like.

dleung
Mar 19, 2010, 3:47 AM
imo the most souless and sterile area of the city is the Bayshore development....

Bayshore is bad in a 60's kind of way but the city and residents' lifestyle has grown around it pretty well. The seawall there is a traffic jam full of yuppies with puppies. If we're talking soulless, the obvious winner is Citygate. Followed by the coopers quay development east of cambie bridge, lol.

hollywoodnorth
Mar 19, 2010, 6:20 AM
Bayshore is bad in a 60's kind of way but the city and residents' lifestyle has grown around it pretty well. The seawall there is a traffic jam full of yuppies with puppies. If we're talking soulless, the obvious winner is Citygate. Followed by the coopers quay development east of cambie bridge, lol.

you kid right?

CITYGATE is actually a bright spot in recent mass developments in this city IMO....and I live here ;)

coopers quay I fully agree.....but the massing and respect for the STREET is awesome in Citygate.........plus there are retail components and OFFICE components ;)

Locked In
Mar 19, 2010, 6:28 AM
To be fair to Coopers, it's brand new and surrounded by parking lots waiting to be developed. Whether or not a giant resort casino etc. next door will give it more 'soul' remains to be seen, but it's way too early to pass judgment there.

If there's a problem with Citygate, it's that it's isolated - but that should change as SEFC and NEFC develop and merge, more or less, at Citygate. Plus the proposed hospital development.. lots of potential for it to be a more integrated 'hood.

deasine
Mar 19, 2010, 6:29 AM
you kid right?

CITYGATE is actually a bright spot in recent mass developments in this city IMO....and I live here ;)

coopers quay I fully agree.....but the massing and respect for the STREET is awesome in Citygate.........plus there are retail components and OFFICE components ;)

Yeah, there are retail and office, but there's not a lot of pedestrian activity, other than people walking from Chinatown to the SkyTrain.

hollywoodnorth
Mar 19, 2010, 8:06 AM
If there's a problem with Citygate, it's that it's isolated - but that should change as SEFC and NEFC develop and merge, more or less, at Citygate. Plus the proposed hospital development.. lots of potential for it to be a more integrated 'hood.

I fully agree.....citygate was built in the middle of no-where-land way back when....give it 5 more years ;)

jlousa
Mar 19, 2010, 1:48 PM
I'd say 10-15 more yrs but I agree with Hollywood North, City Gate will be smack in the middle of it.

Hed Kandi
Apr 16, 2010, 1:18 AM
Update by Yellow Fever at SSC
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=55270129&postcount=28

Small update.


http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/Hongkongese/april2010034.jpg


http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/Hongkongese/april2010035.jpg
my photos

SpongeG
Apr 26, 2010, 3:19 AM
i took this pic today

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9421/dsc09067y.jpg

Vancouver_Highrise
Apr 28, 2010, 12:25 AM
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/peterWEST/h3.jpg

taken by me

Yume-sama
May 2, 2010, 7:59 AM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4570534514_afd7d82b4c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/syume/4570534514/

I am so jealous of their location. But, last night I was there after midnight on my nightly stroll, and along with pot smoking teens, I saw homeless man peeing in their bushes.

SpongeG
May 2, 2010, 8:11 AM
u see people peeing everywhere downtown its quite amusing at times gross at others

Yume-sama
May 5, 2010, 1:26 AM
A panorama of the construction site, and surrounding area from earlier this afternoon.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4580179702_6072af9fed_b.jpg
View full size! http://www.flickr.com/photos/syume/4580179702/sizes/o/

Storm clouds give Vancouver a wonderfully ominous look :D!

officedweller
May 5, 2010, 12:24 PM
Missed opportunity for retail on the plaza....

flight_from_kamakura
May 5, 2010, 4:08 PM
^ seriously! imagine terrasse-style seating out there, it'd be one of the nicest outdoor private spaces in the city.

djh
May 5, 2010, 4:12 PM
...not to mention that whoever bought the ground floor apartment is going to have to deal with non-stop tourists buzzing around their doorstep (and, as mentioned, people peeing in their bushes at night).

Would *totally* have made sense to stick some retail in the ground floor. Any business that didn't need the huge lots in the Convention Centre, or couldn't afford the exorbitant rents there would have jumped at the opportunity.