[Orleans] Cité Collègiale Orleans Campus | Proposed

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New campus for Cité Collègiale
Joanne Laucius, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Thursday, July 17, 2008

OTTAWA - Ottawa's French-language community college is considering building a second campus on a piece of city land in Orléans.

The undeveloped land, at the northwest corner of Trim Road and Hwy. 174, would be the home of a 40,000-square-foot training facility to train skilled trades workers, said Orléans Councillor Bob Monette.

The college, which already has a campus on the Airport Parkway, approached Mr. Monette about expanding into Orléans last winter.

"The demographics of Orléans are a perfect fit for a francophone school. It will enable our francophone students to study in their language close to home," he said.

There are about 100,000 people in Orléans. About a third of those are francophone and half are bilingual, he said. There are also 17 French high schools within an hour's drive.

"There is such a critical need for job-ready trade workers that this expansion is coming at the ideal time," said Mr. Monette.

There are still a few steps left in the process before there will be an official announcement. The college is studying the soils on the site before the deal would move on to city council's corporate services committee and then to full council, he said.

"However the mayor and city councillors who have been approached are very supportive and I am confident that we will be able to sort everything out," Mr. Monette said.


© The Ottawa Citizen 2008
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[adam-machiavelli]

I'm glad they're keeping it on the proper side of Trim, as opposed to a sprawling campus very far out. Although I'm sure this new campus will probably sprawl within the property itself.

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The location is not awful but I would prefer they locate this thing somewhere a bit easier to walk to from the Trim park and ride. Someplace on the Cardinal Creek business park side (where the park and ride is).

There has only ever been 3 things built in that park:

-The Sealtest Plant
-The hospital food services plant
-The park and ride lot.

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Are there plans to build an interchange at Trim and the 174 eventually?

[Mille Sabords]

Are there plans to build an interchange at Trim and the 174 eventually?

No. The 174 is a city freeway and has been the focus of much debate about its widening from Trim east, for the convenience of commuters from Rockland and points east outside of Ottawa. An interchange would not just be an unnecessary expenditure (the stop lights work just fine), it would also send a mixed signal about the city's intention NOT to extend the freeway. An interchange could be viewed as a first step toward a widening.

Although, if you look at that intersection and how the fencing goes around in the shape of a cloverleaf, obviously the land has been bought and protected for an interchange. This goes back to the days of the province's ownership of the road (Hwy 17 back then).

[c_speed3108]

No. The 174 is a city freeway and has been the focus of much debate about its widening from Trim east, for the convenience of commuters from Rockland and points east outside of Ottawa. An interchange would not just be an unnecessary expenditure (the stop lights work just fine), it would also send a mixed signal about the city's intention NOT to extend the freeway. An interchange could be viewed as a first step toward a widening.

Although, if you look at that intersection and how the fencing goes around in the shape of a cloverleaf, obviously the land has been bought and protected for an interchange. This goes back to the days of the province's ownership of the road (Hwy 17 back then).

I recall way back in the day when the highway was widen from Place D'Orleans to Trim and the two new interchanges (the one by Place D'Orleans and the one at 10th line) were built the supposed plan was to have an overpass (a la Orleans Blvd) at Trim with no interchange. The traffic could use St. Joe and the North Service Rd to access the 10th line interchange.

If you look closely at the 10th line ramp (particularly the east bound off ramp (5 lanes wide!) there were huge left turn lanes built to accommodate this setup. North and South bound off 10th line to go west bound also has two separate ramps.

I think now the amount of traffic that has been funneled down Trim and the installation of double left turn lanes at Trim in the 174 seem too pretty much dictate that the old plan is dead.

A cross walk on the East side of the 174/Trim intersection was added too....how nice.

[Acajack]

I think the future of this intersection/interchange will depend on the future of the eastern edge of the City of Ottawa’s urban growth boundary, which I believe is presently Cardinal Creek, just east of Trim Road. Presently, it allows for just a few dozen new streets east of Trim (about half of which are built at present). If that’s as far as it goes, then the present configuration could be sufficient.

But if the boundary is pushed further east and development spreads towards Cumberland, before long you will see a full freeway interchange at the corner of Trim and the 174.

At the moment, a lot of the development in Orleans is taking place south (along Tenth Line south of Innes) rather than east, and much of this traffic will be funnelled to the 174 via Tenth Line, and alternatively it is hoped, towards downtown Ottawa via the Blackburn Hamlet Bypass extension if and when it is completed. The high-development area of south Orleans also has a wide, vacant transit corridor set aside in the middle of it, although who knows what will be put in there and when.

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http://www.eastottawa.ca/article-233211-La-Cite-eyes-land-on-Trim-road-for-new-campus.html

http://www.eastottawa.ca/imgs/dynamique/articles/gros/La_Cite_1.jpg

La Cité eyes land on Trim road for new campus
Article online since July 17th 2008, 16:35

La Cité collégiale plans to build a new $18.1 million, 63,000-sq. ft. campus dedicated to the construction trades in Orléans in time for the 2010-2011 academic year.

Officials from the Francophone college are asking the city to donate a 17-acre plot of land off Trim Road, between Highway 174 and North Service Road, for the project, called a ‘Centre of Specialization in the Construction Trades.’ The land, in proximity of the Trim Road Transitway Park and Ride, is valued at $1 million.

"We want a highly visible place to show the high-tech components of our training," said Serge Brousseau, La Cité’s vice-president of student and administrative services, in a presentation to the city’s business advisory committee last week.

"This will send a message that these are the jobs of the future," he added.

Preliminary plans for the campus call for a 40,000-sq. ft. main building, as well as two model homes for students to train. A storage ‘hanger’ is also included in the plans for the first phase, bringing the total to 63,000 sq. ft.

The expansion would allow the college to increase the number of construction trade programs it offers from seven to 18 and increase the number of apprentices from 358 to 700 by 2012, according to Brousseau’s presentation.

There will be approximately 1,000 students on the campus on any given day, including those enrolled in apprenticeship, post-secondary, continuing education and contract training programs.

Brousseau said approximately 30 per cent of La Cité’s students come from Quebec, but many decide to stay in Ottawa after they graduate.

"Our goal is to build a workforce for Ottawa," he said, estimating Eastern Ontario will require an additional 7,000 workers in the construction trade sectors by 2015.

In addition to helping address the looming labour shortage in the skilled trades sectors, city officials see the project as an opportunity to give Ottawa's east end an economic boost.

"This will drive employment in the east and will stimulate growth in and around that area … This is also about bringing jobs to Orléans," said Ian Duff, Ottawa's manager of economic development.

Duff's sentiments were echoed by several committee members, who voted to endorse La Cité’s plans and request the city turn over the land.

"We talk about extending the 174 so people can get downtown or to Tunney's Pasture ... (But) we think people should be able to stay in their community," said Judith Cane, who sits on the advisory committee and is also chair of the Orléans Chamber of Commerce.

In the short term, La Cité expects the project will generate $9.2 million in economic spinoffs over five years as the influx of new students and staff purchase meals, lodging and other services in the area. The new campus is also projected to create 30 new full-time jobs and up to 80 part-time jobs by 2013.

Duff said a consultant hired by the city concluded the property is an appropriate fit for La Cité’s plans, although the land needs to be rezoned. He also said the serviced property is well-suited for a campus-style development because there are several major ravines that would make it hard to subdivide or build some other major project.

When asked what would happen if the city chose to withhold the land, Brousseau bluntly replied that there would be no expansion project.

However, Orléans Coun. Bob Monette said he expected a majority of councillors would support a motion to hand over the property, which must first go through the city's corporate services and economic development committee before being voted on by full council.

La Cité expects it will raise $4 million from the local construction and trade sector in a major fundraising campaign this fall. The college will contribute $1.1 million of its own money for the project and is also counting on receiving a combined $12 million from the provincial and federal governments.

It is hoped construction will start next spring so the centre can open in September 2010.

-- By Peter Kovessy

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Proposal to give La Cité collégiale land in east end

Updated: Mon Aug. 11 2008 12:56:44

ctvottawa.ca

The City of Ottawa could soon provide La Cité collégiale with land to make room for a new campus in the city's east end.

Mayor Larry O'Brien and a group of east-end councillors are making the pitch to give the francophone college a chunk of property at Trim Road and Highway 174, estimated to be worth about $1 million.

If the donation of the land is approved, it would make room for the college to build a 40,000 square-foot campus, which is expected to translate into job creation for the city's east end.

"Not only will this project cause immediate employment during the planning and construction phase, it will create 20 full-time jobs and another 20 part-time jobs in the first year of its operation," O'Brien said on Monday.

The proposal is scheduled to go before council for approval at the end of August.

If the plan moves forward, it won't be the first time the City of Ottawa has given property to an area college. The City has already given Algonquin College land to help that school with expanding its campus.
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[Dado]

I'm glad they're keeping it on the proper side of Trim, as opposed to a sprawling campus very far out. Although I'm sure this new campus will probably sprawl within the property itself.
Proper side of Trim is debateable, but the desired location is definitely on the wrong side of 174. It should be on the same side as the future Transitway (bus or rail), which is on the south.

It's rather amusing that the College wants the $1M land parcel for free... even though it'll cost $2-3M to put in the pedestrian overpass that I'm sure they'll be demanding in a few years' time.

I wonder how much of the 17 acres will be turned into parking lots and I wonder how much will become yet more grass. It sounds like the building and hangar will occupy about 1.5 acres... and, well, wouldn't you know it but there's at least four times that sitting north of the Park & Ride. I'm not sure who owns it but even if the City doesn't own it, it would be better off buying it for use by the College than being forced to try to serve the new campus with transit later (either that or buy the parcel south of the P&R). Maybe the College and its Construction Trades department could even try their hands at integrating a Transitway station with adjacent landuses; they'd be hard pushed to do any worse than OC Transpo...


If anything, it's the Park & Ride lot that should be on the north side of the 174 (by the time light rail gets out there, it might warrant a pedestrian overpass - but that's an expenditure that can be safely foregone for at least a decade so long as buses are in use).

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La Cité Collégiale facility in Orléans passes first hurdle
Jake Rupert, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Tuesday, August 19, 2008

OTTAWA - A donation of city land worth $1 million and the waiving of development fees for a trades-training facility in Orléans passed its first hurdle Tuesday when the municipality's economic affairs committee endorsed the move.

The 7.2 hectares of land is at Trim Road and Highway 174 and, if the gift is approved by city council next week, La Cité Collégiale intends to build an $18-million facility on it.

The francophone college would construct a main building of 40,000 square feet and other smaller buildings, including two houses that would be built and taken apart as training projects for students. The college hopes to open the campus, which will have a capacity for 1,400 students, by September 2010.

The project needs a $6.75-million contribution from the provincial government, a $5.25-million contribution from the federal government, $4 million in contributions of materials and equipment by industry and $1.1 million from the college. Expanding the pool of skilled tradespeople is an often-stated priority for the Ontario government and many businesses.

The land is at 8865 North Service Rd. and would see 2.8 hectares developed. The rest of the property, which is ravine, would be left undeveloped.


© The Ottawa Citizen 2008.

[harls]

There's a rendering in Le Droit:

http://images.cyberpresse.ca/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=CP&Date=20080820&Category=CPDROIT&ArtNo=80819237&Ref=AR&Profile=6784&MaxW=700

Link. (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoom.pbs&Site=CP&Date=20080820&Category=CPDROIT&ArtNo=80819237&Ref=AR&Profile=6784&show=CPDROIT&sectioncat=CPDROIT&cr=Archives%20Le%20Droit&relart=%2Fapps%2Fpbcs.dll%2Farticle%3FAID%3D%2F20080820%2FCPDROIT%2F80819237%2F6784%2FCPDROIT)

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This seems to have the right momentum to happen....

Cité collégiale gets $6.75M for new campus

Last Updated: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 | 12:06 PM ET
CBC News

A francophone college in Ottawa is getting $6.75 million in provincial money toward an expansion of its construction trades programs.

The money will go toward Cité collégiale's proposed $18-million east-end campus, announced Ottawa-Orléans MPP Phil McNeely at the annual meeting of the Association of Ontario Municipalities Tuesday.

The college's proposed 63,000-square foot Research and Training Centre in the Construction Trades is scheduled to open in 2010, and accommodate 750 additional students by 2013-2014 in trades ranging from plumbing to green building technologies.

Ottawa city council will consider Thursday whether to donate to the college 7.3 hectares of land for the new campus. The land, worth an estimated $1 million, is located at the corner of Highway 174 and Trim Road.

The donation has been recommended by the city's corporate services and economic development committee.

The college's existing campus is located on Aviation Parkway, between Montreal and Ogilvie roads, and has an estimated 15,000 students each year.

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And the land...

Council OKs land transfer to Cité Collégiale for trades campus
The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Thursday, August 28, 2008

OTTAWA - City councillors approved donating land and waiving development fees Thursday for a new trades-training campus for La Cité Collégiale.

The 7.3-hectare parcel of land is at at Trim Road and Highway 174 in Orleans, and the expansion of the francophone college would nearly triple its capacity to train students in 18 high-demand construction trades.

Earlier this week, the provincial government announced a contribution of $6.75 million for the project.

The college hopes to have the campus running by the 2010-2011 school year.


© The Ottawa Citizen 2008

[kwoldtimer]

:previous: Good news.:tup:

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planning application (http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__7IBD85)

[RochS]

Here's an article from this week's Ottawa Business Journal. You can have a look at a rendering using this link (http://www.ottawabusinessjournal.com/293668022184174.php).

PCL wins La Cite's new campus construction contract

By Peter Kovessy, Ottawa Business Journal Staff
Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:00 PM EST

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An artist's rendition of La Cite collegiale's future Orleans campus. (Image supplied)

La Cite collegiale has named PCL Constructors Canada as the construction manager to oversee the scheduling, building and budgeting of the francophone college's new 57,000-square-foot trades campus in Orleans.

PCL beat out two other firms that qualified to submit proposals for the $700,000 contract, and will oversee between $8 million and $9 million in construction work, says Serge Brousseau, La Cite's vice-president of student and administration services. He adds the selection was made on the basis of price, experience with similar projects and Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) standards, as well as the work team's overall experience.

"It is an exciting project," he says.

"Even though we have an economic downturn now, we know there is a huge need for a qualified workforce in the future."

PCL special projects manager Stan Cheer says work is expected to begin in April or May, starting with the clearing and excavation of the site, located on a 17-acre plot of land off Trim Road, between Highway 174 and North Service Road.

He adds the subcontracting opportunities "will take on the whole gamut," with the biggest for mechanical and electrical work, as well as steelwork.

Preliminary plans for the 'centre of specialization in the construction trades' call for a 40,000-square-foot main building, as well as two model homes where students can train.

The expansion will allow La cite to increase the number of construction trade programs it offers from seven to 18 and increase the number of apprentices from 358 to 700 by 2012, Mr. Brousseau said in a previous interview last year.

Approximately 1,000 students, including those in apprenticeship, post-secondary and continuing education and contract training programs, will be on the campus on any given day.

La cite expects the project will generate $9.2 million in economic spinoffs over the next five years and create 30 new full-time jobs and up to 80 part-time jobs by 2013.

School officials hope the local trades sector will contribute to a fundraising campaign in support of the new campus, which the construction industry says is essential to address a looming labour shortage.

"We've been seeing that there is definitely a need and a necessity to have more trade schools in the area," says PCL's Mr. Cheer.

"As the construction population ages, we need to have better systems out there to train and make sure the students and workers are coming out with the right education."

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CAMPUS CONTRACT

Construction manager: PCL Constructors Canada Inc.

Architectural consortium: Civitas Architecture Inc. (Ottawa) and ACDF* Architects (Montreal)

Environmental: Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) Silver rating.

Timeline: Construction to begin this spring and be completed by the September 2010 academic year.

Total budget: $19.3 million (including school equipment)

* $6.75 million in provincial funding

* $5.25 million in requested federal funds

* $4 million from fundraising campaign

* $1.8 million in land and in-kind contributions from the city

* $1.5 million from La Cite collegiale

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Siteplan anyone?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3363/3664581477_8d28481642_o_d.jpg

La Cité Collégiale - Centre des Métiers.
(8865 North Service Rd.)

Plans and building elevations:
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__7J5PQ4

Environmental and Geotechnical Studies:
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__7IBD85

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Sounds like a great project for Orleans!

Now, I hate to say this, but I found it interesting that they are building this francophone college for construction trades so that the kids can learn all this stuff in French, yet the plans for the college construction project itself are all in English!

Makes one wonder what use all that French professional vocabulary will be to kids who very likely will never see a French-language building plan during their entire career...

[Dado]

Oh look, it's sited in the southwest corner some 300 m further from the Trim Transitway Station than if it was sited in the southeast corner... earlier I cynically predicted that a pedestrian bridge would be requested sometime in the future: well this positioning makes such a thing more likely. The siting also puts it about as far away as possible from the two flanking access roads, so local transit is inconvenient as well and there's no relation of the building to any street.

Yet another suburban campus planning success story. One despairs after awhile, one really does.

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Oh look, it's sited in the southwest corner some 300 m further from the Trim Transitway Station than if it was sited in the southeast corner... earlier I cynically predicted that a pedestrian bridge would be requested sometime in the future: well this positioning makes such a thing more likely. The siting also puts it about as far away as possible from the two flanking access roads, so local transit is inconvenient as well and there's no relation of the building to any street.

Yet another suburban campus planning success story. One despairs after awhile, one really does.

I was suspicious of this as well when I saw the site plan but was waiting for someone more learned that me on such matters to point it out. Thanks for confirming what I thought.

Ideally, this thing would have been built somewhere in the vicinity of Centrum where it could have contributed to the (modestly) burgeoning suburban downtown being implemented there. (There is still lots of land near Centrum where the college could have been built.)

[Dado]

You mean on Centrum Blvd near Place d'Orléans? To me, "Centrum", especially if it isn't preceded by "along" or "on", means Kanata Centrum. I thought to myself "why would he want to put this in Kanata? why not at Place d'Orléans since there's lots of room there?" Then I looked at Google Earth to verify that there was indeed space around Place d'Orléans and discovered that a road called Centrum exists! I've even been on it but never knew its name.

Anyway, yes, that would be a good spot for it - it would add to the mix of land uses and it's well-served by both rapid transit and local Orleans transit.

[Acajack]

You mean on Centrum Blvd near Place d'Orléans? To me, "Centrum", especially if it isn't preceded by "along" or "on", means Kanata Centrum. I thought to myself "why would he want to put this in Kanata? why not at Place d'Orléans since there's lots of room there?" Then I looked at Google Earth to verify that there was indeed space around Place d'Orléans and discovered that a road called Centrum exists! I've even been on it but never knew its name.

Anyway, yes, that would be a good spot for it - it would add to the mix of land uses and it's well-served by both rapid transit and local Orleans transit.

Oops. Sorry for the confusion. Goes to show how the “heart of Orleans” along Centrum Blvd. is still relatively unknown to most people in the region.

[rocketphish]

The reason why the building is located in the southwest corner of the site is likely due to the presence of watercourses and fish habitat in the southeast corner:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3556/3664581573_7ed8acf8f4_o_d.jpg

from:
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%20Referencing_Zoning%20Bylaw%20Amendment%20Application_Image%20Reference_Environmental_Impact_Statement_D02-02-08-0123.PDF

I also note on the siteplan that an old road allowance and a proposed easment divides the site into distinct east and west lots.

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This is under construction...

[Lakche]

This is under construction...

From what I saw when I drove by it, it's progressing quite nicely. Going up a lot faster than I expected!

[Lakche]

Some photos:

http://i48.tinypic.com/10p592g.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/140xk5g.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2hrprnl.jpg

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This is now completed.


Cité Collégiale new campus to open
Last Updated: Friday, August 27, 2010 | 10:31 AM ET Comments0Recommend1
CBC News

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/08/27/ott-cite-collegiate-trades.html#ixzz0xopyTQVc



Ottawa's French-language community college is aiming to help fill cracks in the construction industry at its brand new Orleans campus, teaching trades ranging from plumbing to green building technologies.

When the doors of La Cité Collégiale's new site open next week, it will accommodate 300 construction trade students.

Local builder Minto Contruction helped fund the campus.

"We are training their future employees in an environment where we have the proper equipment," said college offical Sylvie Beauvais, who worked with Minto.

The expansion of its construction trades programs was funded in 2008 with $6.75 million from the province of Ontario.

The college's Research and Training Centre in the Construction Trades is scheduled to accommodate 750 additional students by 2013-2014.

The construction trade students are part of the booming enrolment at the fast-growing college, which has 4,500 students.

For a second year in a row, enrollment has risen by 10 per cent, "really spectacular" growth, said Cité Collégiale president, Lise Bourgeois.

"The colleges are really close to economic development, especially when you are in a francophone community where there is a high demand for qualified workers to be ready to participate to the economic, social, and cultural development of the community," she said.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/08/27/ott-cite-collegiate-trades.html#ixzz0xopvjX4N