[Surrey] Park Place | 2*36fl Phase 1 | Completed

[officedweller]

A great pic of Infinity uploaded Sept 27th, 2007 by Paradigm4 on Flickr:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1224/1450585298_a556cbcc5f.jpg?v=0

By JesseHausner on Flickr uploaded August 27th, 2007:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9811063@N04/1254222019

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9811063@N04/1255083226

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9811063@N04/1255085398


Here's a development that was planned for the site back in the mid-1990s.

http://gingert.net/images/KingGeorgePark1994.jpg

[giallo]

I like this tower. Any idea if they'll paint the exposed concrete?

[mr.x]

great pics.


i know there are five towers in the development. Is the entire project called Infinity or is it just this building?

[danby]

Nice!

any word on how many units there will be per floor?

[officedweller]

I thought the whole project of 5 towers was called Infinity.
Can't remember how many suites per floor - they were fairly small but not all one bedrooms or studios.
Not sure if they'll paint the concrete - one Flickr post said paint was missing - but don;t know if there was a basis for the statement.

[East Van]

is this first one the tallest of the 5 ? does anyone know the final height of all the towers ?

[Calgarian]

Not bad, looks pretty wide though.

[Slippy]

The whole project is called Infinity. Thus far building 1 is slated for completion in January. Tower 2 North(building 2-now under construction) and Tower 2 South(building 3) have also been pre-sold. What happens with 4 and 5 remains to be seen but it's interesting that the developer of Sky across the street is now the developer for Infinity. So, in effect, we have towers 1-3 and 6-7 going up. Bizzare.

The Infinity towers are all 36 stories.

[raggedy13]

^Welcome to the forum.

Yeah, between Infinity and Sky Towers there will really be quite the cluster there. Can't wait to see it all complete. Surrey will finally have a decent skyline with those 7 new towers (not to mention all the others that will be going up), most of which will be taller than the typical Metrotown condo tower. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see a tower in the 130-150m range, putting a little bit of pressure on Vancouver to go taller still (hopefully).

[CC420]

Not sure if they'll paint the concrete - one Flickr post said paint was missing - but don;t know if there was a basis for the statement.

If you look closely at the top 'hat' of the building you can see the grey paint that will work its way down the exposed concrete support beams. It doesn't make a huge difference but gives the concrete a smooth look.

[GMasterAres]

Thanks for linking to my three photos. They were taken before the exposed cement structure was painted. Paradigm4's photo at the top gives a good look at the buildings size.

The building looks to be near complete and they are coming along nicely with the lobby area. I'll be honest, it doesn't entirely look like I had expected given the rendering presented to the city but it is still an impressive building when you stand at its base. There are very few residential buildings in the Lower Mainland that impress me the way Infinity 1 does.

I'll most likely be taking some newer photos of it and the currently under construction Infinity 2 and 3 towers beside it in the next week. I'll post links to them on my flickr then.

If there are any other requests, feel free to pass me a note. D'core for example is just a hole in the ground thus why I never bothered to take any pics of it though it is technically under construction right now. :-P Ultra btw is just trees, dirt, and a few hobo couches.

[GMasterAres]

If you look closely at the top 'hat' of the building you can see the grey paint that will work its way down the exposed concrete support beams. It doesn't make a huge difference but gives the concrete a smooth look.

Yes the cement has been painted with the same color as the top 'hat' of the building. I'll be honest, it does actually make quite a difference to me at least aesthetically. Up close it looks a lot more like grey siding. I do wish they had included a bit more color as Surrey council had insisted be done for towers 2 & 3.

It's still an impressive looking building up close and in person. Photos don't really do it justice in my opinion.

[officedweller]

Updated pics would be great.

The curtain wall windows never look as good as the renderings beacuse the glass isn't as reflective as rendered.

So Infinity 2 & 3 will be darked in colour? The variation will be nice.

[LeftCoaster]

So do we have any idea how tall in meters this thing (and its other sibling towers) will be? It certainly looks to be over 100m, but I have no idea beyond that.

[CC420]

^ My guess is 105-110m. It appears to fall just short of Surrey Centrals height of 112m.

Note: The second tower is at about ground level now. It should start rising above ground and take off in a few weeks. The third tower's base core is coming along smoothly and isn't too far behind the second tower. I wish I had photos.

If there are any other requests, feel free to pass me a note. D'core for example is just a hole in the ground thus why I never bothered to take any pics of it though it is technically under construction right now. :-P Ultra btw is just trees, dirt, and a few hobo couches.

I believe D'cors' crane is up. Maybe I'm getting it mixed up with another development but I know three cranes are up in Surrey right now. Two at Infinity and one at West Whalley Ring Rd. and 104ave.

[Slippy]

^ My guess is 105-110m. It appears to fall just short of Surrey Centrals height of 112m.

Note: The second tower is at about ground level now. It should start rising above ground and take off in a few weeks. The third tower's base core is coming along smoothly and isn't too far behind the second tower. I wish I had photos.



I believe D'cors' crane is up. Maybe I'm getting it mixed up with another development but I know three cranes are up in Surrey right now. Two at Infinity and one at West Whalley Ring Rd. and 104ave.


Yes it is D"Cor

[Volksboi]

I have some new pics of the tower...how do I load them? i know Im lame..sorry...lol..

[raggedy13]

You need a website to host them on (for example... photobucket.com) and then you need to post the image link sandwiched between...

[ i m g ] (paste image link here) [ / i m g ]

... except get ride of the spaces when you type it in.

[Volksboi]

awsome thanks!

[Volksboi]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture008.jpg

[officedweller]

Thanks. Probably would have looked better with reflective glass.

[slurrey]

http://www.slurrey.com/gallery/00176/image00114.jpg

[Lead]

It looks so awesome... and to think there are 4 more coming. I still can't see how towers 4 & 5 are suppost to fit on the site...after seeing where towers 2 and 3 are being built it's going to be a tight fit.

[mr.x]

^ wow, looks great from that angle...thanks!

[Volksboi]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture011.jpg

[mr.x]

^ nice!

[raggedy13]

Thanks for the pics volksboi. It looks quite a bit taller than the typical downtown condo.

[officedweller]

Thanks!

[SpongeG]

i kind of like the effect of the white window blinds

[Volksboi]

yea when you see it in person from the ground its mamouth...I have tons of pics of a bunch of other project too, I will be posting them all soon since I just figuired out how to post them.

[westcoast604]

The massing is massive. Unlike typical Vancouver area condos - moreso like Toronto/Mississauga sized buildings.

[Canadian Mind]

I lvoe this building, just wish it had more colour to it.

Will the following buildings have a similar design and colour? or will there be a bit of variety to spice things up?

[SpongeG]

the rooms are so small though driving by it looks like they would be lucky to get a bed and a dresser

[Canadian Mind]

how many units per building?

[Volksboi]

the rooms are so small though driving by it looks like they would be lucky to get a bed and a dresser

I think your looking at the "inclosed balcony" with the french doors. they are not an actual room, just an area to put plants or a small desk, somthing like that...

[Slippy]

This might be the nicest of the buildings actually. The city has been openly critical of the designs of buildings 2 and 3. We'll see.


I lvoe this building, just wish it had more colour to it.

Will the following buildings have a similar design and colour? or will there be a bit of variety to spice things up?

[hegoru]

Anybody know when the building is due for a walkthrough?

[Volksboi]

Heres an update on the Infinity site...

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture238-1.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture239.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture240.jpg

A little while back someone made a comment on how small the rooms appear and I think this is what they where talking about. Looking at the floor plans this is the enclosed balcony..
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture243.jpg

And here are some current pictures of phase 2 and 3...
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture245.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture251.jpg

Will be back in a couple weeks with some updated pictures..

[officedweller]

Thanks!
That enclosed blacony is probably comparable to Vancouver ones - but putting double french doors (instead of space-saving sliders) is just stupid. You'd have to have one door permanently closed to keep any furniture in there.

[Volksboi]

Oh I agree 100%, Kinda seems like the cheap way of doing it here...

[LeftCoaster]

But arent french doors more expensive than sliders?? The whole thing seems idioic to me.

[Volksboi]

and if I had a unit in here I would just take the doors right off..

[Volksboi]

But arent french doors more expensive than sliders?? The whole thing seems idioic to me.

umm not sure, with sliders you have to have all the mechinism within the wall for the door to slide in and out.. maybe there was not enough "wall space" for the doors to slide into..

[officedweller]

umm not sure, with sliders you have to have all the mechinism within the wall for the door to slide in and out.. maybe there was not enough "wall space" for the doors to slide into..

I just meant sliding patio doors - or the "moving wall systems" as they call them in Yaletown.

[excel]

Great pics.

[Volksboi]

Thanks!

[raggedy13]

Thanks for the pics Volksboi!

[osirisboy]

wow that enclosed balcony in retarded. with all the places i buy the first thing i do is rip out those stupid enclosed balconies, who the hell likes those useless spaces?

[vanman]

^They are good for hotboxing! :haha: Besides that I think they are useless.

Btw thanks for the pics Volksboi.

[SFUVancouver]

Enclosed balconies have become a thoroughly abused loophole in Vancouver's development industry. Their intended purpose was to provide an alternative amenity to outdoor balconies in places where it wouldn't make much sense or enjoy much use. Examples of the intended purpose would be for lower level dwellings on major streets, adjacent bridges with a lot of street noise, or in areas where there would be other factors that would mitigate the enjoyment of the outdoors. The enclosed balconies are exempt from a building's developable FSR, just as external balconies are, to a maximum 8% of a dwelling's floor area. So if you had a 1000 sqft condo you could expect an 80 sqft balcony since it would be "free" for the developer. Terraces and roof decks are not subject to the same calculation because they are treated differently, how I am not certain.

The enclosed balcony rose to prominence because a developer can sell it as an extra room, adding the square footage to the total for the dwelling, despite the fact that it was "free" for the developer to build, so far as their total developable density is concerned.

I tend to think that they are semi-useful spaces. Almost everyone I have ever met with one uses it either as an office or a room for their pet, (litter box, etc.). South or west facing enclosed balconies could also be used as a nice greenhouse, perhaps to help make those mortgage payments...

[officedweller]

I'm not sure what the Surrey zoning bylaws provide for ut in Vancouver, the enclosed balcony allowances have evolved over time.
- The original intent was to provide a balcony that could be used even in the rainy days of winter.
- If you visit an early Pacific Place condo (vintage 1992) (north side of Pacific Boulevard) you will note that the enclosed balcony is of a room-like size (many were used as dining rooms), has a sill (maybe 4-6 inches) that you must step over to access the enclosed balcony (i.e. like an outdoor balcony), there is a drain in the middle of the floor and has an exterior grade door.
- A bit later (i.e. my condo vintage 1993) the sill requirement and drain are gone. But the dimensions are still room like - mine is about 9 ft wide by 10 ft deep. Still of note are the exterior grade door and fibreglass insulation (treating it like exterior space) in the "external" walls (between the enclosed balcony and other rooms of the suite).
- The sizes of enclosed balconies were later reduced by City Council because people were using them as bedrooms and living space! This was not intended (probably to what SFUVnacouver mentioned). I've also noticed that doors are no longer exterior grade (i.e. the moving wall system @ Domus).
- A further amendment later on also imposed a requirement that enclosed balcony space be balanced with a proportionate amount of external balcony space, leading to the prevalence of the tiny exterior balconies seen on today's condos.
- One feature remains for enclosed balconies - the flooring must be "impermeable" - that means tile - to qualify for the exemption from zoning density (otherwise it is included in the living space of the project). Numerous developers have run afoul of the zoning by marketing or actually installing hardwood (or laminate) in enclosed balconies and having to remedy the situation. @ Domus, enclosed balconies were marketed as having laminate flooring - that was later reversed to tile (to the disappointment of many buyers). @ Palladio, the developer had to buy heritage density from the City to remedy the problem, as the suites were already occupied. Nowadays, you see more and more "legal" applications to the city for purchases of heritage density to bring enclosed balconies "into density" when a condo owner is renovating a unit - this is due to lawsuits alleging misrepresentation where a condo owner has illegally removed enclosed balcony doors and brought the space into the living space without informing the purchaser. This is typically revealed to the purchaser if the purchaser applies to the City for a building permit to conduct renovations - at which point the purchaser is ordered by the City to re-install the enclosed balcony.

[SFUVancouver]

Lots of activity at the Infinity site today.

My Photo ( SFUVancouver in SSP | Vancouverite in SSC )
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7886/p1050098pv2.jpg
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[vanman]

Nice.That site is absolutely massive.

[Volksboi]

yea its a huge site and the site the left is where SKY towers are going.

[SFUVancouver]

Infinity site

(my photo, taken January 29th, 2008)
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8577/p1050305cj9.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/)

[officedweller]

Thanks.

[excel]

nice.

[Startvcr]

What are the numbers?

The 36 and 40-storey Sky Towers are being developed by Young In Development headed up by CEO and South Korean businessman Hee Yong Yang. He is the same developer that took over responsibility for Surrey’s Infinity Towers.

The two new towers are expected to cost about $350 million and include 900 housing units.
http://www.joconl.com/article/id24624

Presale in November 07 = $ 280M
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=3f6e5197-e76b-400f-9d83-e3b7a818f65c&k=15382

Would this $350 include extensive development around the base of the two towers (in the podium or in a commercial strip) or is the number misquoted (or a typo).

Thanks

[g35]

What are the heights of all these new towers going to be (Infinityx5, sky towers, etc)? I looked on SSP's main site but there's only Central City there right now. I tried googling with no success. Somebody must know, be able to eyeball an estimate? I can't wait to see Surrey's skyline will look like.

[Startvcr]

Does anyone know any of the participating sub contractors on this Infinity Site.
ITC is the GC (General)

Infinity phase 1 group (this is the first single tower - completed)

Infinity phase 2 group (currently under construction)

[Startvcr]

Questions on this Infinity Project. Does anyone know the following?

1. What happen to the information about Phase 2 (T2 and T3). Like to know total value of the pre-construction sale?

2. The number of suites per tower? (average selling $ per sqft).

3. Any literature on the web re: phase 2 (or links)


Thanks

[Startvcr]

Does anyone know the status of this phase with respect to occupants moving in?

1. Final completion (in the common areas still going on?)
2. Is it being delayed (to March) due to the occupancy permit?

[SFUVancouver]

A snap from this afternoon.

(My photo, taken February 20th, 2008)
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9705/p1050461hb2.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/)

[mr.x]

^ the site is bloody huge!

[Nites]

^ the site is bloody huge!

Well don't forget that on top of the two that are already going up their is also two more buildings also going up in the same site. 5 all together remember.

[paradigm4]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2376/2289343219_dc25777d86.jpg

Phase I tower from Holland Park

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2307/2289357297_6ccd95c021.jpg

Phase II

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2289374959_774c4b5ab4.jpg

More construction

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2174/2289370305_fa131154e4.jpg

Phase II foundations

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2053/2290171788_ffdde4aaf6.jpg

Phase I

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2290169860_38e407d6fe.jpg.

Cranes for Phase II (Towers 2 and 3)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2384/2289200351_278b8046f2_b.jpg

A panorama of the site

More on my flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paradigm4/)

[excel]

Nice shots.

[giallo]

Thanks for the update. The site's size is impressive.

[Volksboi]

Love the tower, but I really wish they tinted the window because it looks horrible with all the blinds.

[Nites]

Look how thick the building on the very end will be.

http://www.getitlisted.ca/images/houses/thumb/4.jpg

[vanman]

Infinity is decent but a bit too much on the bland side. I think the city of Surrey even told the developer to add more colour to these next phases.

[officedweller]

Look how thick the building on the very end will be.

That's the one that's already built! The others will be much thinner (i.e. Vancouver width).

BTW, thanks for the render, didn't realize there was a road (driveway) through the middle of the project. That should help the retail a bit, esp. if Skytrain passenegrs can get dropped off and picked up there.

[SpongeG]

isn't he referring to the thick one on the right?

looks a little squattier

[officedweller]

Oh, could be - I thought he meant the one with the arrow.

[cornholio]

the thick one on the right i think will be a hotel tower so depending on the market there is a small chance that it will take a while to get built.

[Nites]

Yes, I was referring to the last one on the right. Also, now at night you can see white lights on top of the infinity phase one. They actually add quite a bit of a finish to the building when you driving down King George.

[SpongeG]

that area could use a nice hotel

[SFUVancouver]

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3583/p1050781ov1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) My photo, taken March 12th, 2008

[excel]

The two towers must be having a race to the top.

[Nites]

The two towers must be having a race to the top.

You Betcha, however infinity phase 2 has a 1 story head start.

[GMasterAres]

I hope tower 3 wins. I have a condo in tower 3. :cool:

[Nites]

I hope tower 3 wins. I have a condo in tower 3. :cool:

Nice I have one in tower 2. On the 17th floor.

[SFUVancouver]

March 22nd, 2008

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9352/infinitysmallgw8.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) My photo, taken March 22nd, 2008

[officedweller]

Is that a podium?

[GMasterAres]

Is that a podium?

Podium where? Left side of the image is Infinity 1, right side is the combined lobby and ammenity section for Infinity 2 & 3 since both buildings are combined with a single base building according to the plans (double entrance though).

Outside of that in the middle you have door access to the lobby of Infinity 1 (where the budget truck is parked) and the main road area. When the project is complete there will be a road going through the center of all the buildings and underground commercial parking since that area will sport commercial. When I talked with Jung at the time back when they were still pulling strings, the plans were to have near the skytrain street level commercial like restaurants and shops.

That was actually part of the sticking point with the delay of I2 and 3 (in addition to some funding issues). The City of Surrey doesn't/didn't like the plans for the commercial portion stating there were issues with isolating the skytrain area and creating dead/dark zones that could encourage criminal activity.

Because of that issue, they ended up having to split Phase 2 up so that they could continue building Tower 2 and 3 once the redesigns were complete and not get hung up on the commercial portion which is still in the planning stages.

I think earlier there was an image that shows the area concept and you can see the middle road area there. It will enter between T1 and T2 via 100th Avenue and also between T3 and the future T4 on West Walley Ring Road.

The dead center elevated portion (straight up from the portables at the bottom) is access to the underground I believe. As I said when the project is complete part of the underground will be public use for commercial so they need outside access to the underground area.

[officedweller]

Podium where? .... right side is the combined lobby and ammenity section for Infinity 2 & 3 since both buildings are combined with a single base building according to the plans (double entrance though).

Guess the "single base building" will have to do as a podium.

[GMasterAres]

Guess the "single base building" will have to do as a podium.

Oh my bad I had missunderstood what you meant. Yah the part under construction is the podium building portion of Towers 2 and 3. They share that portion and in the plans the right side = lobby for T3, left side = lobby for T2, and central area + second floor will be the amenities.

[SFUVancouver]

April 2nd, 2008

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5843/infinitysurreyapril2200qf5.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) My photo, taken March 22nd, 2008.

[GMasterAres]

Looks like the project is now changing slightly.

The proposal is to remove the commercial element from Phase 1, which was to be still constructed entirely. It will also limit the commercial aspect of phase 2A (currently under construction) and add internal parking rather than underground parking for that commercial space.

It also now involves reducing the commercial aspect of 2B and instead constructing a mid-rise residentual tower.

Phase 3 will go ahead as planned but with no commercial aspect anymore.

So that means at the end of the day the Infinity project will gain a 6th residential building, not a high-rise looks like, but a mid-rise right along King George Highway next to Infinity 1 and the Sky Train station.

Interesting.

[officedweller]

Does that means no hotel?
It makes some sense to eliminate some retail if it's not substantial enough of a component to be "destination retail" (i.e. will it just sit empty?) but it would be nice to see the internal streets and surrounding roads lined with streetfront retail.

[GMasterAres]

Not sure. I believe the hotel option was to be Phase 3 anyway. They say on the planning report that Phase 3 isn't changing except for the removal of the commercial space but the plans are locked up in the planning dept. at Surrey so i can't get that specific information.

I actually wouldn't mind them pushing forward and redeveloping the Day's Inn. If you look at that specific area, if they were to construct a parking garage like you get downtown, you could build on the other side of the skytrain an Infinity like complex where all the parking lots currently reside.

I've always been of the opinion that to make a region really have a downtown feel, you need to be rid of standard surface level parking area. Case and point for Central City Mall they really should extend the parking garage in the back and get rid of the front parking section the skytrain runs over. Build a road in front of the mall and a secondary access road, then divi up the 'current parking lots' and construct high-rises.

I mean take Metrotown for example. It will never really to me have a downtown feel so long as Metrotown has that giant overground parking lot off of Kingsway.

[GMasterAres]

I still also think that it would be a good idea to have street level commercial in that project as you mentioned officedweller. It does create a sort of town center feel and if you think about the scope of the project when combined with Sky Towers, you have potentially now 5 x 35 storey highrises, 1 x 36 storey highrise, 1 x 41 storey highrise, and 1 x potential 6-12 storey midrise for or residents. And that's a conservative estimate since I'm not counting the 4 storey portion of Sky Towers, we don't know the size of this apparent 6th residential mid-rise, nor do we know the 2 buildings in Phase 3.

Now if you take an average 8 residences per floor, you get an estimated combined total of 2,064 units combined in a 1 square block area. That's a lot of population in a small area and imagine the business a commercial property under those buildings could make. Hair salon, throw in a coffee shop, a restaurant or two, a small market. The business community could benefit greatly and the residences wouldn't need to hoof it all the way to Central City Mall for minor things.

That and KGH skytrain being the current end of terminus, you have the skytrain population and morning commuters. People taking the bus even when they extend the skytrain to Guildford typically get on at KGH rather than go the further distance to Surrey Central so you'd have people wanting their morning coffee or a newspaper.

I think the Jung would be crazy to remove too much commercial from the base. I suspect they are having issues with the City Council and Planning Department and rather than pushing and having the remainder of the project drraaaawwww out, they are compromising a little to keep things flowing.

I guess time will tell.

[officedweller]

Strange that Surrey City would want commercial (retail) removed. I wouldn't want the area to become like some of the more suburban tower areas - i.e. anything in Metrotown that's not on Kingsway

[GMasterAres]

I agree. If they want it to be "downtown Vancouver" like, the commercial is almost required. Especially around a Sky Train station. It seems to me that the city council is in conflict of balancing what is required for a downtown center and crime prevention.

When you read the planning report and the previous report on why Phase 2 was split into 2A and 2B in the beginning, the biggest gripe was that the planning dept. and council couldn't be satisfied with any design as to a 100% crime prevention watermark.

Now I can understand the push to reduce crime in the city center and they've done a good job to date so far in that trek (with much still to go), but there isn't a city on the planet with 0 crime, nor a metro downtown that doesn't have the odd begger, thief, or crack addict. And you can't expect a high reduction in crime anyway in this region due to the appauling court system and it's inability to hand down sentences > 3 days for a car thief's 500th stolen car (slight exaggeration obviously). So they have to really balance that aspect with progression. Without seeing everything they see in their council reports, I can only best guess and would rather just trust they are making the best decisions based on the information they have.

I would hate to see it turn into another Patterson like area.

[SpongeG]

heres the corner coming on nicely

is it gonna be retail?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/spongeg/DSC00191.jpg

[cc85]

no i dont believe so, the retail was going to be placed directly north of the skytrain station, but i believe plans for that have been scraped/altered to significantly reduce the amount of commercial space.

[SpongeG]

so people will be living that close to the sidewalk

yikes

[GMasterAres]

No the base of towers 2 and 3 are the building entrance and amenities. Actually the first few floors are. I believe (would have to look at my plans again) that actual residences don't start until floor 3 in both towers. There could be a few on the second floor though. I'll take a look at the plans again when I get home.

Either way there isn't listed any commercial in that part. as CC85 said and me above, they've reduced the commercial aspect considerably. I still think it's because Surrey is being a pain in the ass and the new owners of the project just want to get all the phases complete sooner than 2085.

[SFUVancouver]

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http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) My photo, taken April 17th, 2008.

[SFUVancouver]

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http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) My photo, taken April 21st, 2008.

I forgot I only posted one a few days ago. I'll try to keep a week or more between updates from now on.