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BTinSF
Jan 12, 2007, 9:15 AM
I believe the following Business Times article makes it reasonable to start a thread for this as a "proposal":

Developers dust off plans to build SoMa office tower
San Francisco Business Times - January 5, 2007
by J.K. Dineen and Ryan Tate
A stealth contender among the next crop of downtown San Francisco office buildings, 524 Howard St. seemed to have fallen off the map.

But perhaps not for long, according to developer Higgins Development Partners, which owns the parcel along with financial partner Pritzker Realty.

A 23-story building designed by HellerManus, 524 Howard St. was approved in 2000 and put on ice after the tech boom soured. On a mid-block site between First and Second streets, the project will include 202,000 square feet of office space. Swinerton is the contractor.

With rents rising rapidly in the south financial district, it's time to dust off the plans, said Nader Shah, senior VP of Higgins Development Partners.

"We believe the market has come back and we'll be taking a hard look at it in the first half of 2007," he said.

Higgins, based in Chicago, developed the 820,000-square-foot Yahoo headquarters in Sunnyvale and the Hyatt Center, a 47-story tower in Chicago.

The building at 524 Howard St. would be its first project in San Francisco.

Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2007/01/08/newscolumn1.html?t=printable

Here are renderings from the architect's (Heller-Manus) site:

http://63.240.68.122/FirmFiles/25/images/Howard%20St%20copy1.jpg

http://63.240.68.122/FirmFiles/25/images/524Howard%20Aerial.jpg

http://63.240.68.122/FirmFiles/25/images/524%20HowardLobby1.jpg

viewguysf
Jan 5, 2008, 10:38 PM
:deadthread:

BTinSF
Jan 6, 2008, 1:50 AM
^^^It's as dead or undead as the spec office market. Time will tell.

viewguysf
May 31, 2009, 9:35 PM
^^^It's as dead or undead as the spec office market. Time will tell.

A year and a half after my last posting here, time has now told us.

AndrewK
Jun 1, 2009, 9:19 AM
no way this is getting built any time soon with all the open office space in the city, though it would have been a nice addition to the area (and it's silhouette is still shown in the the transbay video).

tommaso
Oct 15, 2009, 11:21 PM
What's the plan for this site now? And where are the official renders?

timbad
Nov 11, 2012, 9:39 PM
just to bring this thread a bit more up-to-date, here was socketsite (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2011/03/524_howard_twentytwo_years_of_history_and_a_lot_for_two.html) from 2011, when Planning was considering approving the existing parking lot on the site for 2 more years, and from this past June, a blurb (http://news.theregistrysf.com/sold-524-howard-st-san-francisco/) mentioning that the site has been acquired by an affiliate of Crescent Heights. no word on plans, tho.

timbad
Jun 10, 2013, 3:17 AM
was a bit surprised to see this on the site when I walked by yesterday:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3723/9002530622_e1d4423bbd_b.jpg

maybe one of our super-sleuths can come up with the renderings to post here

viewguysf
Jun 10, 2013, 4:05 AM
Nice! As usual, this is a huge improvement over the original Heller Manus proposal--open the link in timbad's 11/11/12 post to see it.

minesweeper
Jun 10, 2013, 5:43 AM
Wow, nice find! It looks like this new proposal takes full advantage of the new 450' height limit (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2011/11/transbay-tower-site-hits-market.html) added by the Transbay Plan. Just eyeballing that rendering, it looks like it's 40+ stories.

The Transbay Plan suggested that the building on this parcel could have a direct connection to the Transit Center (http://i.imgur.com/kJtrnbW.png), but none is depicted here.

The rear design reminds me of a skinny residential tower (http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/real-estate/tall-skinny-midtown-skyscraper-new-york-fashionable-rental-article-1.1113225) in Manhattan, although that one is on a much skinner lot.

OneRinconHill
Jun 10, 2013, 6:42 AM
That is a really cool building.

fimiak
Jun 10, 2013, 9:15 AM
Great find timbad, another one to block my view of the Bay Bridge. J/k, but its almost ridiculous how fast these buildings are coming out of the woodwork. Imagine this area in 5-10 years...an entirely new extension of downtown for SF.

JWS
Jun 11, 2013, 9:11 PM
Oh man, that rendering is awesome! In an era of dozens of exciting new projects, this may have jumped to the top of my radar, simply because the narrow footprint will become more prevalent down the line once the bigger lots are all snapped up. Would love to see this get built and see how it looks in the skyline.

Any more info on this? Based on the balcony inclusion and design, it looks like this iteration will be focused primarily on condos?

peanut gallery
Jun 12, 2013, 11:18 PM
Nice find, timbad. Kind of reminds me of a better designed and taller Blu.

1977
Jun 13, 2013, 2:35 AM
Yes, great find. I love how slender this one looks from the south/north.

minesweeper
Jun 25, 2013, 2:10 AM
The Planning Commission is set to approve a continuation (http://www.sf-planning.org/index.aspx?page=2735) of the "temporary" parking lot at the hearing on July 11:

2013.0211C: 524 HOWARD STREET – north side between First and Second Streets; Lot 013 in Assessor’s Block 3721 - Request for Conditional Use Authorization, pursuant to Planning Code Sections 156 and 303, to allow the continued operation of an existing temporary surface parking lot within the C-3-O (SD) District, the Transbay C-3 Special Use District, the Transit Center C-3-O(SD) Commercial Special Use District, and the 450-S Height and Bulk District.

Preliminary Recommendation: Approval with Conditions.

Maybe we will get an update from the developer on a new timeline for this project?

timbad
Jul 9, 2013, 4:56 AM
socketsite (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/07/new_plan_for_prime_transbay_parcel_44story_condo_tower.html) chimes in, but not much new info

simms3_redux
Jul 9, 2013, 4:57 AM
timbad, you beat Socketsite to it by an entire month!

minesweeper
Jul 11, 2013, 5:43 AM
An article in the Business Times (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2013/07/developer-seeks-huge-height-increase.html?page=all) reveals that the designer is Glenn Rescalvo of Handel Architects, who also designed NEMA. It also says:

If the project is consistent with the Transbay plan, as it appears to be, it would not require a full-blown environmental review, according to planning staff.

timbad
Jul 12, 2013, 8:32 AM
timbad, you beat Socketsite to it by an entire month!

:) and I got no credit from Business Times, what's up with that?! :P

minesweeper
Aug 10, 2013, 10:37 PM
The previous hearing regarding the parking lot got postponed from July 11 to August 15. Now it's set to be approved at this Thursday's hearing. Here's the planning PDF (http://commissions.sfplanning.org/cpcpackets/2013.0211C.pdf).

They are asking for the surface parking lot to be approved for an additional two years (the maximum possible).

It also offers some details on what Crescent Heights is planning for the site:

The Department is currently reviewing a Preliminary Project Assessment (PPA) application for development of the site. The proposal described in the PPA would construct a new 44-story building, reaching a roof height of 450 feet, containing approximately 285 dwelling units, 1,300 square feet of retail space, and 71 off-street parking spaces.

easy as pie
Aug 11, 2013, 6:06 PM
in a fantasy world that tower would be built without any parking. thanks for the info

timbad
Aug 14, 2013, 12:13 AM
socketsite (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/08/524_howard_street_tower_deets_and_timing.html)blurbs, not much new info in addition to what minesweeper already posted, except they say it is still 3 years away

peanut gallery
Aug 24, 2013, 3:44 AM
Just for fun, I took a shot of the space where this will rise:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5473/9577553717_82aff3817f_b.jpg

minesweeper
Nov 5, 2014, 6:35 AM
No new renderings, but Crescent Heights has the project up on their site (http://www.crescentheights.com/portfolio/524-howard/) now and it says:

including a sky-bridge to the future Transbay Rooftop Park

I hope they follow through with that. It'll be great to have another building directly connected to the park.

slock
Jan 31, 2016, 2:42 AM
Revisions just submitted on 1/20/16. Two concepts: one all residential, the other residential and hotel. Residential/hotel is 535' to structural top, all residential is 525'.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/moses81/Screen%20Shot%202016-01-30%20at%206.35.17%20PM.png

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/moses81/Screen%20Shot%202016-01-30%20at%206.35.37%20PM.png

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/moses81/Screen%20Shot%202016-01-30%20at%206.35.51%20PM.png

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/moses81/Screen%20Shot%202016-01-30%20at%206.36.04%20PM.png

https://aca.accela.com/ccsf/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Planning&TabName=Planning&capID1=16CAP&capID2=00000&capID3=000MC&agencyCode=CCSF

tech12
Jan 31, 2016, 7:40 PM
Nice! I'm looking forward to this one.

mt_climber13
Jan 31, 2016, 8:58 PM
Didn't know this was going to be so tall, title says 23 floors so I assumed it would be about 250' which is a yawner, 535' is quite impressive, would be as tall as ORH 2. This is one of my favorites and have been patiently waiting for this to get built. It's gonna look awesome from Transbay Terminal Park

tall/awkward
Feb 1, 2016, 11:55 PM
Intriguing. I still can't help but wonder what will happen if this building is filled with wealthy NIMBYs, and plans for Parcel F are developed to tower over its west side...

a very long weekend
Feb 1, 2016, 11:57 PM
^ yeah, we should be doing a rain dance for hotel and rental over condo with this one.

minesweeper
Feb 2, 2016, 6:31 AM
A couple points of interest from the linked document:


The lot is zoned for 450' in height but they are asking for an extra 10% height increase in the upper tower per § 263.9 (http://planning.sanfranciscocode.org/2.5/263/263.9/). That brings the roof height to 495' and well over 500' with the mechanical screening
The all-residential option is 48 stories, while the hotel option has 45 floors
Both options have a pedestrian bridge to the transit center
In addition to the ground-floor retail frontage on Howard St, there's a retail spot on the same floor as the pedestrian bridge

timbad
Apr 23, 2016, 5:01 AM
socketsite (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/08/524_howard_street_tower_deets_and_timing.html)blurbs, not much new info in addition to what minesweeper already posted, except they say it is still 3 years away

<-- that was Aug 2013, so three years would have been pretty soon, but socketsite blurbs again (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2016/04/new-tower-adds-more-height-and-two-years-before-breaking-ground.html). two more years. sigh.

timbad
Apr 23, 2016, 4:48 PM
the thread title needs updating - this is to be 48 floors as currently proposed, 495' not including mechanical

buzzbuzzsteph
Jul 21, 2016, 6:29 PM
https://d2kcmk0r62r1qk.cloudfront.net/imageSponsors/xlarge/2016_07_21_01_59_20_crescent_heights_524_howard_san_francisco_rendering_5.jpg

New rendering available for Crescent Heights (https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/us/db/crescent_heights)' project. Proposal is now for 48 stories and 334 units. More details: https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/us/524-howard

ElDuderino
Nov 2, 2016, 8:05 PM
Skinny Transbay District Tower Closer to Reality
November 2, 2016

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/msmatisek/524-Howard-Street-Site_zpsiulb160r.jpg (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/msmatisek/media/524-Howard-Street-Site_zpsiulb160r.jpg.html)

Speaking of skinny project sites, the plans for a 48-story, residential tower rising up to 515 feet in height at 524 Howard Street have been newly rendered, granted an exemption from having to complete a detailed environmental impact report, and are slated to be approved by San Francisco’s Planning Commission tomorrow afternoon.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/msmatisek/524-Howard-Street-Rendering-1_zpsqxlsxbij.jpg (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/msmatisek/media/524-Howard-Street-Rendering-1_zpsqxlsxbij.jpg.html)

As designed by Handel Architects for Crescent Heights, the proposed Transbay District tower would include 334 condos over stacked parking for 167 cars and 3,900 square feet of retail space, of which 1,150 square feet would front Howard Street on the ground floor.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/msmatisek/524-Howard-Street-Rendering-Howard_zpscyspkvdj.jpg (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/msmatisek/media/524-Howard-Street-Rendering-Howard_zpscyspkvdj.jpg.html)

The remaining retail space would be located on the seventh floor, connected to the future Transbay Park via a pedestrian bridge over Natoma Street as envisioned, as would be the proposed tower to rise up to 806 feet in height at 546 Howard Street upon Transbay Parcel F.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/msmatisek/524-Howard-Street-Rendering-City-Park-Connection_zpseqp1n1kn.jpg (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/msmatisek/media/524-Howard-Street-Rendering-City-Park-Connection_zpseqp1n1kn.jpg.html)

First approved for development over 25 years ago, Crescent Heights has been touting “Coming Soon” with respect to their plans for the 524 Howard Street tower since 2013 and recently secured approval the existing parking lot on the site to operate for up to another two years.

Keep in mind that Crescent Heights is also seeking approval for a possible variant to project as proposed, which would yield 72 condos over a 273-room hotel and parking for 54 cars on the 524 Howard Street site, depending upon how the market and timing plays out.

And with respect to the foundation upon which the tower would be built, the project team is currently proposing the use of “pre-drilled and press-in piles, drilled and cast-in-place piers, or rectangular-profile load bearing elements” rather than impact-driven piles down to the bedrock below.

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2016/11/skinny-transbay-district-tower-closer-to-reality.html

mt_climber13
Nov 2, 2016, 8:39 PM
:soon:

SLO
Nov 2, 2016, 8:50 PM
I like the thin structure and cant wait to see the park in person!

homebucket
Nov 3, 2016, 2:03 AM
Looks great! Love the connection btwn the Transbay Park and retail on the 7th floor.

Are there any plans to raze 530 and 540 Howard for another tower? Would be cool to have a canyon wall rise up on that side of the park, since it's not possible on the other side thanks to the squat Foundry Square.

tall/awkward
Nov 3, 2016, 10:58 PM
There are other nice renderings at the bottom of this:

http://commissions.sfplanning.org/cpcpackets/2013.0882ENVDNXGPRSHDVAR.pdf

timbad
Mar 30, 2018, 9:14 PM
duplicate

timbad
Mar 30, 2018, 9:17 PM
<-- that was Aug 2013, so three years would have been pretty soon, but socketsite blurbs again (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2016/04/new-tower-adds-more-height-and-two-years-before-breaking-ground.html). two more years. sigh.

<-- that was Apr 2016, so two years would have been pretty soon, but socketsite blurbs again (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2018/03/expectations-for-skinny-transbay-district-tower-pushed-back-again.html). two more years. sigh.

slock
May 15, 2019, 9:14 PM
It's not 100% clear from the article, but it looks like this project as designed and approved won't be happening.

The Registry (subscription) had an item about this that stated the project was just purchased from Crescent Heights and was being combined with the adjacent building.

It's separate from the 540 Howard design we've seen, but here's a quote: "The buyers, who are the owners of the neighboring 530 Howard building, intend to combine the two parcels for greater efficiency and advance an appropriate design for one of the final significant developments in the neighborhood."

https://news.theregistrysf.com/524-howard-last-transbay-transit-center-parcel-acquired-by-hong-kong-investor-for-78mm/

mt_climber13
May 15, 2019, 10:51 PM
Damn :( was so excited for this. Another squat box instead.

Pedestrian
Jun 30, 2019, 12:52 AM
Planning says an approved 48-story project at 524 Howard that would have included 334 dwelling units will likely not move forward as its approvals sunset this November.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2019/06/27/transbay-district-presidio-treasure-island-macys.html

timbad
Oct 31, 2019, 7:50 AM
socketsite blurbs again (https://socketsite.com/archives/2019/10/timing-for-another-transbay-district-tower-pushed-back-again.html)

... Crescent Heights ... has quietly sold the parcel ...

And with that in mind, ... American West Parking is now seeking authorization to continue to operate the “temporary” Transbay District parking lot for (at least) another two years.

woohoooooo!

timbad
Sep 5, 2020, 9:05 AM
socketsite (https://socketsite.com/archives/2020/09/parking-lot-slated-for-extension-as-tower-entitlements-expire.html)

San Francisco’s Planning Commission is expected to approve the fifth extension, which would allow the “temporary” parking lot to continue to operate through September of 2022, this week.

At the same time, the entitlements for the 495-foot-tall tower have now technically expired as well.

homebucket
Aug 5, 2022, 6:25 PM
Any updates on this one?

homebucket
Aug 29, 2022, 5:25 PM
Looks like this one remains in limbo.

Approved Tower Pushed Back, Parking Lot Extension Sought
August 26, 2022

... with the entitlements for the 495-foot-tall tower having technically expired, an application to secure a sixth two-year extension for the “temporary” parking lot, which would run through the third quarter of 2024, has been filed with Planning. At the same time, building permits for the tower have yet to be requested. We’ll continue to keep you posted and plugged-in.

https://socketsite.com/archives/2022/08/approved-tower-pushed-back-sixth-parking-lot-extension-sought.html

homebucket
Aug 29, 2022, 5:27 PM
A reminder of what could've been.

https://socketsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/524-Howard-Street-Rendering-1.jpg

https://socketsite.com/archives/2022/08/approved-tower-pushed-back-sixth-parking-lot-extension-sought.html

Iceman12
Aug 29, 2022, 5:54 PM
Such a shame. At what point do we create a use it or lose it policy?

Separately, anyone have a clue what's going on with Parcel F (next door)? I biked by this weekend and it's still a pile of rubble. Hines is out getting approvals for several other parcels, but this continues to stay untouched.

Zapatan
Aug 29, 2022, 6:11 PM
It would be cool if someday something could rise here along with Parcel F.

That'll be if SF ever builds a skyscraper again... there's plenty of demand but for some reason no execution.

homebucket
Nov 16, 2023, 8:54 PM
Back from the dead! Mods, can we update the thread title to reflect the new address and specs?

Should be "SAN FRANCISCO | 530 Howard St | 840 FT | 71 Floors".

The updated specs:
- 71 floors, 840 ft
- 672 units
- At least 10% of the units will be affordable
- Parking included for cars and bicycles

Plans Surface For 71-Story Residential Tower In SoMa, San Francisco

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-aerial-view-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton-777x503.jpg

BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON NOVEMBER 16, 2023

Bayhill Ventures has announced plans for a new skyscraper at 530 Howard Street, overlooking San Francisco’s Salesforce Park. Initial plans shared with media this morning suggest the tower would stand 840 feet tall, making it the third tallest structure in the city skyline if built today and the second tallest in the city’s pipeline. Bayhill Ventures is a relatively new firm led by the former chief at Hines, Paul Paradis, and former president of the Sobrato Organization, Rob Hollister.

The current application will rise 840 feet to create 672 for lease apartments. Unit sizes are expected to vary between one- to three-bedrooms. At least ten percent will be designated as affordable. Parking will be included for cars and bicycles, while residents will enjoy nearly 30,000 square feet of amenity space.

...

Pickard Chilton is responsible for the design of 530 Howard Street. Renderings show the slim tower rising from the five-story podium, with a four-floor-high cantilevered amenity terrace facing the pedestrian bridge connecting the public to Transbay Park via an elevator. The facade appears to be treated with bold horizontal lines established by steel beams between each floor, while metal panels represent pilasters rising up to the 840-foot-high parapet.

Today, a surface parking lot and a four-story office building occupy the project site. Crescent Heights had pursued plans in 2016 for a 48-story mixed-use tower with 350 units. The Handel Architects-designed apartments never materialized, and over the years, its most common permit activity regarded the temporary parking lot’s two-year lease renewals.

https://sfyimby.com/2023/11/plans-surface-for-71-story-residential-tower-in-soma-san-francisco.html

homebucket
Nov 16, 2023, 8:56 PM
And the renderings:

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-within-the-San-Francisco-skyline-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-pedestrian-bridge-to-Salesforce-Park-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-street-view-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/2023/11/plans-surface-for-71-story-residential-tower-in-soma-san-francisco.html

gochujang
Nov 16, 2023, 9:11 PM
Nice. Expecting to see every dead office proposal rebirth itself as all residential.

Zapatan
Nov 16, 2023, 9:41 PM
Awesome news, the design could be more interesting but still cool

deanstirrat
Nov 17, 2023, 1:45 AM
Thing is huge. I love it. Build now.

twinpeaks
Nov 17, 2023, 2:02 AM
Cool, I hope this breezes through permitting into construction. We need many more mixed types of housing

dktshb
Nov 17, 2023, 3:02 AM
Looks very nice and connected to the neighborhood at street and park level, which is the most important to me.

whitty
Nov 17, 2023, 5:01 AM
Cool, I hope this breezes through permitting into construction. We need many more mixed types of housing

It should in theory go very, very quickly:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/realestate/article/sf-tower-proposal-18488629.php

While the sleek tower would be a distinctive presence on the skyline, it also represents a significant milestone in San Francisco’s political landscape: the first major downtown tower that would not require approvals from the Planning Commission or the Board of Supervisors.

That’s because the developer is taking advantage of Assembly Bill 2011, the “affordable housing and high road jobs act of 2022,” which allows “ministerial” approval of certain developments on commercially zoned properties.

The law has not been enacted much in San Francisco — there is only one other AB2011 project pending — because it only applies to streets that are a minimum of 75 feet wide. Most thoroughfares in San Francisco are significantly narrower than that, but Howard Street is not. AB2011 also requires that the sites not be next to industrial properties and be more than 500 feet from a freeway.

“It will be the first major project that is utilizing state ministerial approval process — no (California Environmental Quality Act) study, nor a hearing at the Planning Commission,” said San Francisco Planning Director Rich Hillis.

Hillis said the design will be reviewed by planning staff to make sure it complies with the city’s code requirements, but that it should be ready for building permits within six months. After entitlements are secured, the developer expects to spend about a year raising capital and an additional three years building the tower.

Mayor London Breed celebrated the proposed project as a “significant investment” in downtown.

Charmy2
Nov 17, 2023, 5:05 AM
In that first photo homebucket posted imagine this beast standing alongside Parcel F, the Oceanwide, 50 Main Street, and Block 4. Really gets me excited to say the very least.

deanstirrat
Nov 17, 2023, 6:20 AM
I want a rendering with this, parcel F and oceanwide please

homebucket
Nov 17, 2023, 6:31 AM
In that first photo homebucket posted imagine this beast standing alongside Parcel F, the Oceanwide, 50 Main Street, and Block 4. Really gets me excited to say the very least.

That combo right there would be pretty epic. Plus Salesforce and 181 Fremont in the immediate vicinity too.

homebucket
Nov 17, 2023, 6:41 AM
Looks very nice and connected to the neighborhood at street and park level, which is the most important to me.

Yeah the interaction with the ground level is quite nice. And then you have the connection to the park which is reminiscent of 181 Fremonts (and Andytown Coffee Roasters) little bridge to the park as well. By integrating with the street and park level it creates a more open and inviting environment. It would be nice if the part that connects to the park has space for retail or a restaurant which I think the park could use more of.

Charmy2
Nov 17, 2023, 7:08 AM
That combo right there would be pretty epic. Plus Salesforce and 181 Fremont in the immediate vicinity too.

Exactly, I really really hope we see a tower crane start rising over the city soon. It's about time the city's skyline gets an upgrade and I love the image of a massive cluster of towers in the SoMa, still letting the Transamerica and 555 California dominate the skies over Financial District.

OneRinconHill
Nov 17, 2023, 7:42 PM
I want a rendering with this, parcel F and oceanwide please

Isn't Parcel F effectively dead?

Charmy2
Nov 18, 2023, 12:13 AM
Isn't Parcel F effectively dead?

I think so. The site went up for sale and also in the SF Yimby article for 530 Howard it states that Hines has cancelled the project. I don't know if it's true or not.

homebucket
Nov 30, 2023, 4:28 PM
Some more details and renderings. Mods, can we update the thread title to reflect the new address and specs?

Should be "SAN FRANCISCO | 530 Howard St | 844 FT | 72 Floors".

The updated specs for 530 Howard St:
- 72 floors, 844 ft
- 672 units (424 1BR, 180 2BR, 68 3BR)
- At least 10% of the units will be affordable
- Parking included for 149 cars and 458 bicycles

The site:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bBKDZ974wwtX5vY28

Permit Activity For 530 Howard Street, SoMa, San Francisco

BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON NOVEMBER 30, 2023

It has only been two weeks since plans were first announced for the region’s potential second-tallest residential tower, and a flurry of permit activity has already been submitted to the city’s Planning Department. The 72-story proposal for 530 Howard Street is expected to rise 844 feet tall, among the tallest in the country, and could become the third or fourth tallest skyscraper in San Francisco. Bayhill Ventures, the project developer, has also submitted a request for new building permits.

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The 844-foot tall structure will yield around 882,250 square feet, with 730,975 square feet for housing and 48,000 square feet for parking. Of the 672 apartments, there will be 424 one-bedrooms, 180 two-bedrooms, and 68 three-bedrooms. Parking will be included for 149 cars and 458 bicycles.

Amenities will start on the fifth and sixth floors, accessible via elevator from the ground lobby. The elevators open to a double-height spiral staircase on one side, which rises to the sixth-floor pool deck and fitness center. The Howard Street side of the fifth floor will include a co-working space, library, lounge, and game room. The other half will be occupied by residential services such as concierge, leasing, the mail room, and a connection to the public-access Salesforce Park bridge. On the 70th floor, nearly 800 feet above street level, residents will find access to a second amenity lounge, entertainment zone, and a shared terrace.

Among the exciting new details revealed from the permit activity is a collection of new renderings, particularly how the public will see the publicly accessible bridge that connects the tower and pedestrians along Natoma Street to the Salesforce Park, which features landscaping designed by PWP. House & Robertson Architects is the executive architect, and Pickard Chilton is the design architect. The tower facade will frame the floor-to-ceiling windows with steel-beam panels.

The foundation structural system will extend below the upper and lower layers of sand and into bedrock. According to the project report, “preliminary studies indicate that the pier embedment into the bedrock will vary between 30’ to 75’.” Magnusson Klemencic Associates is responsible for civil and structural engineering, Meyers+ is the MEP engineer, and Atelier Ten is consulting on sustainability.

https://sfyimby.com/2023/11/permit-activity-for-530-howard-street-soma-san-francisco.html

homebucket
Nov 30, 2023, 4:32 PM
And the renderings:

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-view-from-the-pedestrian-bridge-connecting-to-Salesforce-Tower-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-illustration-showing-how-zoning-waivers-will-help-shape-the-tower-illustration-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-public-terrace-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-facade-detail-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-pedestrian-view-along-Natoma-Street-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-view-from-Treasure-Island-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-seen-from-Dolores-Park-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/2023/11/permit-activity-for-530-howard-street-soma-san-francisco.html

OneRinconHill
Nov 30, 2023, 5:19 PM
And the renderings:

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-view-from-the-pedestrian-bridge-connecting-to-Salesforce-Tower-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-illustration-showing-how-zoning-waivers-will-help-shape-the-tower-illustration-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-public-terrace-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-facade-detail-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-pedestrian-view-along-Natoma-Street-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-view-from-Treasure-Island-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/530-Howard-Street-seen-from-Dolores-Park-rendering-by-Pickard-Chilton.jpg

https://sfyimby.com/2023/11/permit-activity-for-530-howard-street-soma-san-francisco.html

Build it NOW. How will the BOS mess this one up? I saw that Mayor London Breed loves it and wants it built, so that helps(?)

SFView
Nov 30, 2023, 8:01 PM
Some more details and renderings. Mods, can we update the thread title to reflect the new address and specs?

Should be "SAN FRANCISCO | 530 Howard St | 844 FT | 71 Floors".

The updated specs for 530 Howard St:
- 71 floors, 844 ft
- 672 units (424 1BR, 180 2BR, 68 3BR)
- At least 10% of the units will be affordable
- Parking included for 149 cars and 458 bicycles

The site:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bBKDZ974wwtX5vY28



https://sfyimby.com/2023/11/permit-activity-for-530-howard-street-soma-san-francisco.html

Actually according to SF Yimby, it is:
72 floors, 844 ft.

Take a look at the SF Yimby Nov. 30 article again.


Source:https://sfyimby.com/2023/11/permit-activity-for-530-howard-street-soma-san-francisco.html

Permit Activity For 530 Howard Street, SoMa, San Francisco

It has only been two weeks since plans were first announced for the region’s potential second-tallest residential tower, and a flurry of permit activity has already been submitted to the city’s Planning Department. The 72-story proposal for 530 Howard Street is expected to rise 844 feet tall, among the tallest in the country, and could become the third or fourth tallest skyscraper in San Francisco. Bayhill Ventures, the project developer, has also submitted a request for new building permits.

Sorry, I know 71 floors have been indicated in various other articles, but this is the latest. Same goes for 840 vs. 844 feet. I believe it also depends on how one counts floors, or rounds off measurements.

homebucket
Nov 30, 2023, 8:10 PM
^ Thanks for catching that! Even better! Edited my original post.

At 72 floors, this would be the tallest floor count in the City, beating the 61 floors in Salesforce Tower.

OneRinconHill
Nov 30, 2023, 8:31 PM
Odds this gets built? It looks like if they wanted to stall it with the shadow law and the "skyline shape" thing they made a big deal about...they could.

homebucket
Nov 30, 2023, 8:39 PM
Also if built this would be the new tallest residential tower in SF and California, surpassing the Millennium Tower which previously held the title at 58 floors and 647 ft.

Although it could be passed in the future by 50 Main St (also depends on which one gets built first) if that gets built as currently proposed at 89 floors and 992 ft.

SFView
Nov 30, 2023, 10:13 PM
^ Thanks for catching that! Even better! Edited my original post.

At 72 floors, this would be the tallest floor count in the City, beating the 61 floors in Salesforce Tower.

No problem. It's nice that we both want the same thing - moderators to update the thread title data.

SFView
Nov 30, 2023, 10:16 PM
Also if built this would be the new tallest residential tower in SF and California, surpassing the Millennium Tower which previously held the title at 58 floors and 647 ft.

Although it could be passed in the future by 50 Main St (also depends on which one gets built first) if that gets built as currently proposed at 89 floors and 992 ft.

By the way moderators while you're at it, can you also update the data for 50 Main St. on the diagrams? It still says 85 floors and 991 feet. Thanks!

Charmy2
Dec 1, 2023, 12:20 AM
Also if built this would be the new tallest residential tower in SF and California, surpassing the Millennium Tower which previously held the title at 58 floors and 647 ft.

Although it could be passed in the future by 50 Main St (also depends on which one gets built first) if that gets built as currently proposed at 89 floors and 992 ft.

I thought the recently completed Beaudry in Downtown Los Angeles.

SFView
Dec 1, 2023, 3:36 AM
Odds this gets built? It looks like if they wanted to stall it with the shadow law and the "skyline shape" thing they made a big deal about...they could.

The maximum height limit in San Francisco used to be 550 feet! The "skyline shape" thing and shadow laws were/are well documented justification for building much taller in the city. The climate is changing with new height bonus laws factored in. With that in mind, I wonder if something taller will someday get proposed as a new designed residential tower for Parcel F? Anyway, it's nice to see this new 844 feet tall proposal for 524 Howard Street come closer to reality.

homebucket
Dec 1, 2023, 4:07 AM
The maximum height limit in San Francisco used to be 550 feet! The "skyline shape" thing and shadow laws were/are well documented justification for building much taller in the city. The climate is changing with new height bonus laws factored in. With that in mind, I wonder if something taller will someday get proposed as a new designed residential tower for Parcel F? Anyway, it's nice to see this new 844 feet tall proposal for 524 Howard Street come closer to reality.

Isn't it 530 Howard now? ;)

SFView
Dec 1, 2023, 4:16 AM
^Oh yeah, right! Moderators? Let's correct the thread title to "530 Howard" as well.

homebucket
Dec 1, 2023, 4:25 AM
I thought the recently completed Beaudry in Downtown Los Angeles.

Yeah, Millennium is tallest residential building in SF, while Beaudry in LA is slightly taller at 695 ft. 530 Howard and 50 Main would pass both by quite a wide margin.

Interestingly, the Beaudry has more units than this building would, at 785 units vs 672 units despite being shorter by 8 floors, perhaps because this building does not include any studios. I'm not sure what the difference in floorplate size is. That could be a factor too. Upon further examination, this building also utilizes a more urban and equity minded approach, featuring a more reasonable parking limit of 149 cars, with 458 spaces for bicycles, along with a ~10% affordable component. Whereas Beaudry has more spaces designated for parking than it does units, with 831 spaces, as well as no affordable housing element.

twinpeaks
Dec 1, 2023, 4:34 PM
Odds this gets built? It looks like if they wanted to stall it with the shadow law and the "skyline shape" thing they made a big deal about...they could.

I thought the state indicated these local requirements are subjective and not in compliance with state laws. With AB2011, could BOS or discretionary reviews still stall or kill this project?

homebucket
Dec 1, 2023, 4:45 PM
I thought the state indicated these local requirements are subjective and not in compliance with state laws. With AB2011, could BOS or discretionary reviews still stall or kill this project?

I don’t think so. It should get approved much more quickly than before. The only foreseeable obstacle which has proven to be a major one is for these projects to secure financing in these “challenging market conditions”.

OneRinconHill
Dec 1, 2023, 5:48 PM
I don’t think so. It should get approved much more quickly than before. The only foreseeable obstacle which has proven to be a major one is for these projects to secure financing in these “challenging market conditions”.

Considering who the developer is...I'm not too worried.

Charmy2
Dec 2, 2023, 6:30 AM
I've got a gut feeling we might see this one rising before 50 Main