[Burnaby] Concord Brentwood | U/C and Proposed

GilmoreStation · #1 Posted **May 25, 2016, 4:39 AM**

Burnaby's Yaletown in the making...

• Video Link
Source: www.concordbrentwood.com

Alex Mackinnon · #2 Posted **May 25, 2016, 4:52 AM**

Dear god, someone find Concord an architect. That's appallingly boring.

Also, Lougheed Parkway? Come on...

retro_orange · #3 Posted **May 25, 2016, 6:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

Dear god, someone find Concord an architect. That's appallingly boring.

Also, Lougheed Parkway? Come on...

Why do they keep referencing Yaletown for these suburban developments. Yaletown was built around a historical industrial neighborhood that is the driving force of it's popularity. There's not a single aspect of these developments that maintains any sort of historical context to the areas past.

The Yaletown BIA should copyright the name so they can get royalties from all these other developments that overuse the concept of 'Yaletown living'. Seriously.

spiritofevil99 · #4 Posted **May 25, 2016, 2:50 PM**

Well Concord was the developer that BUILT Yaletown so they can lay claim to it I guess.

officedweller · #5 Posted **May 25, 2016, 9:24 PM**

Burnaby's got the wrap around balcony down pat!

Strange how there are none (among new towers) in Vancouver.

The Lougheed-fronting tower on stilts were described in this article:

http://www.straight.com/news/658336/...coming-burnaby

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Originally Posted by Jebby

The location of the bathroom in this floorplan really sucks. You have to go through the living and dining areas and past the kitchen to the to the shower from your bedroom and vice versa.

There's also practically no storage space.

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Originally Posted by spiritofevil99

Well Concord was the developer that BUILT Yaletown so they can lay claim to it I guess.

No they didn't.

"Yaletown" is the historic warehouse district (with historic zoning) bounded by Homer, Nelson, Drake and the alley west of Pacific Blvd.

The Concord lands (former Expo site) are NOT Yaletown.
Downtown South is also not Yaletown (though real estate agents used to call it "New Yaletown".

spiritofevil99 · #6 Posted **May 25, 2016, 9:41 PM**

I didn't meant the historical nature of Yaletown but what Yaletown is today. Yuppie condo neighborhood including David Lam Park, Roundhouse Community Centre etc. I think people consider the corridor along Pacific Blvd. Yaletown these days along with those warehouses where Blue Water Cafe is located.

Anyways, I don't care that much so yeah whatever.

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Originally Posted by officedweller

There's also practically no storage space.

No they didn't.

"Yaletown" is the historic warehouse district (with historic zoning) bounded by Homer, Nelson, Drake and the alley west of Pacific Blvd.

The Concord lands (former Expo site) are NOT Yaletown.
Downtown South is also not Yaletown (though real estate agents used to call it "New Yaletown".

WarrenC12 · #7 Posted **May 25, 2016, 3:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by retro_orange

Why do they keep referencing Yaletown for these suburban developments. Yaletown was built around a historical industrial neighborhood that is the driving force of it's popularity. There's not a single aspect of these developments that maintains any sort of historical context to the areas past.

Not to mention False Creek, a natural part of the area that is very important to its popularity.

I'm not sure what is more annoying though. Either it's "The Yaletown of Burnaby", or they make up some fake name for a community out of thin air that tries to sound cool. Langley seems to suffer from the latter issue.

Vin · #8 Posted **May 26, 2016, 12:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by retro_orange

Why do they keep referencing Yaletown for these suburban developments. Yaletown was built around a historical industrial neighborhood that is the driving force of it's popularity. There's not a single aspect of these developments that maintains any sort of historical context to the areas past.

The Yaletown BIA should copyright the name so they can get royalties from all these other developments that overuse the concept of 'Yaletown living'. Seriously.

Other than the teaser video that was initially released that drew the parallels of Yaletown's Urban fare market and David Lam park to this new development, nowhere else has Concord said that this Brentwood development is just like Yaletown, and they have certainly not been comparing Yaletown's historical district to this Burnaby development. In fact, if you guys look at their website, they describe more on the strengths of living in Burnaby (eg. they pointed out that Burnaby was selected as the best managed city, etc.).

GeeCee · #9 Posted **May 25, 2016, 3:08 PM**

That site plan is pretty funny. Here's my version of it:

It's not quite to scale but close enough. Presumably the warehouses and etc until the southern treeline would become the 'district park'.

mgbcca · #10 Posted **May 25, 2016, 3:30 PM**

Yikes gonna be a busy area, all this plus I believe at least 5 more towers across the street to the west planned (so far).

EddieVH · #11 Posted **May 25, 2016, 3:41 PM**

Floorplans:

EddieVH · #12 Posted **May 25, 2016, 3:46 PM**

Jebby · #13 Posted **May 25, 2016, 9:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by EddieVH

The location of the bathroom in this floorplan really sucks. You have to go through the living and dining areas and past the kitchen to the to the shower from your bedroom and vice versa.

WarrenC12 · #14 Posted **May 25, 2016, 10:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

The location of the bathroom in this floorplan really sucks. You have to go through the living and dining areas and past the kitchen to the to the shower from your bedroom and vice versa.

Highlighting the giant balconies in the overall floor space is pretty cheezy too.

Spr0ckets · #15 Posted **May 26, 2016, 5:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

The location of the bathroom in this floorplan really sucks. You have to go through the living and dining areas and past the kitchen to the to the shower from your bedroom and vice versa.

Logically, there's no other way to design that bathroom in a unit of that size and layout.

Since it doubles as a powder room, it obviously can't be an ensuite and only accessible from the bedroom (which would be ideal).

And at the same time you can't locate the door any other way, because an entry to the bathroom facing your kitchen/dining area is bad design (and bad Feng Shui for those so culturally inclined).
And alternative design (if the unit had more space) would have been to have the bathroom with two doors or access points - one to the bedroom directly and the other to the hallway.
But doors eat up a lot of area for one thing, and for another they typically diminish the ability to use the bathroom walls as a plumbing wall (to run your water pipes through) - of which you ideally want to have at least one to place your tub, toilet and vanity against.

It's tough, and it's not ideal but for a single person living in a unit like that it's less of a bother I suppose ( than for, say, a couple).

Jebby · #16 Posted **May 25, 2016, 9:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by GilmoreStation

Not looking good. It seems they're going for towers in a park concept instead of urban streetwall. Very disappointing.

Klazu · #17 Posted **May 25, 2016, 11:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Burnaby's got the wrap around balcony down pat! Strange how there are none (among new towers) in Vancouver.

You have recently been commenting this to few of my questions, but perhaps LEED requirements are also the reason there? I recall there having been a thread about how much heat balconies emitted (or absorbed, can't remember)... Just a guess.

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Originally Posted by Jebby

Not looking good. It seems they're going for towers in a park concept instead of urban streetwall. Very disappointing.

Yeah, they should build podiums and townhouses everywhere between towers. Then there would also be more credibility to claims around Yaletown, as Yaletown is characterized by those.

officedweller · #18 Posted **May 26, 2016, 12:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

You have recently been commenting this to few of my questions, but perhaps LEED requirements are also the reason there? I recall there having been a thread about how much heat balconies emitted (or absorbed, can't remember)... Just a guess.

I think there may be a couple of factors at play -
- the balconies shade the interior which would prevent solar gain
- the balconies, as constructed in Vancouver without a "thermal break", means that they emit heat from the building acting like a radiator fin

I like the look of the wrap around balconies, because it adds uniformity to the building and you can't see the spandrel.

Klazu · #19 Posted **May 26, 2016, 12:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

I like the look of the wrap around balconies, because it adds uniformity to the building and you can't see the spandrel.

That's true, but if overused, they make all buildings look quite similar. Well, perhaps better than all buildings similarly clad with spandrel.

trofirhen · #20 Posted **May 27, 2016, 12:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

Not looking good. It seems they're going for towers in a park concept instead of urban streetwall. Very disappointing.

I like the sleek urban streetwall effect, too, but I wonder if it would work here (along Lougheed, presumably) Apparently, there's a slope there and the buildings would not meet the street.
Does that matter? I'm asking, not stating.