NHL Thread: 2021-2022 Season - Page 15

logan5 · #**281** Posted **Nov 6, 2019, 3:35 PM**

I guess pro athletes are use to it, but prison type showers would be a no go for me. I wouldn't shower. Lol.

Canucks allowed the first 3 on 0 breakaway in league history last night in OT. Other than that, a pretty good game against the hardest grinding team in the league.

Overall the Canucks slightly outplayed the blues, and were able to match the Blues grinding style. Quinn Hughes continues to rack up points, scoring the tying goal late in the 3rd.

If Hughes can finish in the 60's in points, Hughes has a very good shot at winning the Calder. Judging by comments by fans and media in Denver, Makar has more defensive weaknesses than Hughes, so if it comes down to those two, Hughes seems to have the edge (early on).

Calgarian · #**282** Posted **Nov 8, 2019, 4:19 PM**

Flames are starting to get going now finally, their typical slow start is frustrating to watch lol.

The Chemist · #**283** Posted **Nov 8, 2019, 10:59 PM**

James Neal also showing why the Flames were willing to get rid of him for Milan Lucic in the last stretch of games - a single assist and -9 in the last nine games. That's the Neal Flames fans know and 'love'.

blueandgoldguy · #**284** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 4:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by The Chemist

James Neal also showing why the Flames were willing to get rid of him for Milan Lucic in the last stretch of games - a single assist and -9 in the last nine games. That's the Neal Flames fans know and 'love'.

I'm sure Flames fans still try to convince themselves that they got the better of that Neal-Lucic deal. It's likely that James Neal produced and contributed more in those first 5-10 games than Lucic will all season.

In other news, the Jets laid the smaketh down on the Canucks' roody poo candy asses. And that's with a decimated defense and no Brian Little too!

Andy6 · #**285** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 5:16 AM**

For the Jets, the miraculous thing is that the Vezina finalist Hellebuyck of two years ago is back after vanishing in 2018-19. He's really holding the fort while all these new guys and rookies are figuring things out. Some of his saves tonight versus the Canucks were just unbelievable.

The Chemist · #**286** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 1:33 PM**

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It's likely that James Neal produced and contributed more in those first 5-10 games than Lucic will all season.

And so? He hardly contributed anything to the Flames last season, despite the Flames having one of the league's top offences last year. The Flames didn't have a face-puncher like Lucic in the lineup last year, and teams were willing to take liberties with our top guys as a result (e.g. Rittich was being slashed / poked after the whistle several times in the game against CBJ, but all that stopped after Lucic punched that guy in the face). Did I wish he wasn't being paid 5 million/year? Sure, as do all Flames fans. But given the choice of a guy being paid 5 million and contributing nothing at all like Neal last year or a guy being paid the same to be a tough 3rd/4th liner who may not contribute much offensively but at least puts in good hustle and plays physically, I'll take the latter.

Hardhatdan · #**287** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 2:12 PM**

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And so? He hardly contributed anything to the Flames last season, despite the Flames having one of the league's top offences last year. The Flames didn't have a face-puncher like Lucic in the lineup last year, and teams were willing to take liberties with our top guys as a result (e.g. Rittich was being slashed / poked after the whistle several times in the game against CBJ, but all that stopped after Lucic punched that guy in the face). Did I wish he wasn't being paid 5 million/year? Sure, as do all Flames fans. But given the choice of a guy being paid 5 million and contributing nothing at all like Neal last year or a guy being paid the same to be a tough 3rd/4th liner who may not contribute much offensively but at least puts in good hustle and plays physically, I'll take the latter.

Haha.

MacLac · #**288** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 2:17 PM**

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Haha.

Too funny!!! I got a bag of magic beans to sell you......really good price...only 7Million X 4 = 28 MILLION!!!!

SHOFEAR · #**289** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 4:16 PM**

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(e.g. Rittich was being slashed / poked after the whistle several times in the game against CBJ, but all that stopped after Lucic punched that guy in the face). .

On Lucic could have not turned the puck over on the wing during the breakout that lead to that entire sequence of events.

Coldrsx · #**290** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 8:00 PM**

Another G for Neal!

Black Star · #**291** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 9:11 PM**

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Flames are starting to get going now finally, their typical slow start is frustrating to watch lol.

Tkachuks goal.....are you kidding me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v_F-peobEA

blueandgoldguy · #**292** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 10:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Chemist

And so? He hardly contributed anything to the Flames last season, despite the Flames having one of the league's top offences last year. The Flames didn't have a face-puncher like Lucic in the lineup last year, and teams were willing to take liberties with our top guys as a result (e.g. Rittich was being slashed / poked after the whistle several times in the game against CBJ, but all that stopped after Lucic punched that guy in the face). Did I wish he wasn't being paid 5 million/year? Sure, as do all Flames fans. But given the choice of a guy being paid 5 million and contributing nothing at all like Neal last year or a guy being paid the same to be a tough 3rd/4th liner who may not contribute much offensively but at least puts in good hustle and plays physically, I'll take the latter.

I'm sure many Flames fans like yourself have convinced themselves that Lucic 's "contributions" of face-punching bring that extra element missing from the Flames that will put them over the top this season. Face it, they have lost that trade already as Neal has provided the Oilers with much needed secondary scoring this season while Lucic pretty much skates around being an offensive black hole on the Flames looking to contribute with nothing more than his fists.

The Chemist · #**293** Posted **Nov 9, 2019, 11:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

I'm sure many Flames fans like yourself have convinced themselves that Lucic 's "contributions" of face-punching bring that extra element missing from the Flames that will put them over the top this season. Face it, they have lost that trade already as Neal has provided the Oilers with much needed secondary scoring this season while Lucic pretty much skates around being an offensive black hole on the Flames looking to contribute with nothing more than his fists.

The point is that Neal WAS an offensive black hole last season, and given that he wasn't going to get any more time on the first / second lines this season, that would have continued. At least with Lucic we get a guy who is serviceable on the 3rd / 4th lines, whereas Neal was absolutely useless in that role.

Of course, most Flames fans, including me, wish we had never signed Neal to that contract in the first place so we wouldn't be stuck with Lucic either. None of us see Lucic as the guy who will bring the Flames over the top, but most of us at least see him as being a little more useful than Neal was.

Coldrsx · #**294** Posted **Nov 10, 2019, 6:35 PM**

Mr. Cherry... time to go.

mintzilla · #**295** Posted **Nov 10, 2019, 8:09 PM**

^long past time. his diet racism has been getting old for a long time.

DoubleK · #**296** Posted **Nov 10, 2019, 9:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

I'm sure many Flames fans like yourself have convinced themselves that Lucic 's "contributions" of face-punching bring that extra element missing from the Flames that will put them over the top this season. Face it, they have lost that trade already as Neal has provided the Oilers with much needed secondary scoring this season while Lucic pretty much skates around being an offensive black hole on the Flames looking to contribute with nothing more than his fists.

Oilers' scoring is basically flat year over year.

Here's some anaylsis from another forum.

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Oilers scoring after 18 games last season:
Draisaitl + McDavid 21 goals
Chiasson 6
Caggiula 6
RNH 4
12 other guys combine for 15 goals, with nobody having more than 2.

Oilers scoring this season:
Draisaitl + McDavid 22 goals
Neal 12
Kassian 4
10 other guys combine for 13 goals, with nobody having more than 2.

The fact that Calgary got rid of a mopey player, a bit of cap relief and a 3rd round pick is a win in my books.

Hardhatdan · #**297** Posted **Nov 10, 2019, 10:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

Oilers' scoring is basically flat year over year.

Here's some anaylsis from another forum.

The fact that Calgary got rid of a mopey player, a bit of cap relief and a 3rd round pick is a win in my books.

The oilers flat year over year scoring has nothing to do with Neal.
That's an impressive twisting of statistics.
Keep going guys, I'm getting a lot of good laughs here.

MacLac · #**298** Posted **Nov 10, 2019, 11:02 PM**

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The oilers flat year over year scoring has nothing to do with Neal.
That's an impressive twisting of statistics.
Keep going guys, I'm getting a lot of good laughs here.

Flamers fans are certainly an insufferable bunch. They keep blaming his (Neal) "lack of 1st line minutes" - well whose fault is that? His or the coaches'? The coach of course. By the end of the year they might realize that he (Lucic) is the absolute worst 7M player in the history of mankind of any sport.

Coldrsx · #**299** Posted **Nov 11, 2019, 7:16 AM**

McAwesome and LD are out of control.

That McD goal... how do you even begin to describe it?

WhipperSnapper · #**300** Posted **Nov 11, 2019, 2:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by MacLac

Flamers fans are certainly an insufferable bunch. They keep blaming his (Neal) "lack of 1st line minutes" - well whose fault is that? His or the coaches'? The coach of course. By the end of the year they might realize that he (Lucic) is the absolute worst 7M player in the history of mankind of any sport.

Flames have 23 points in 20 games. The PPG probably puts them 7th or 8th in the conference. The season just started and things will be different when everything is said and done. Still, it's a bad time to start defending a trade when your team's output is mediocre at best.