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Originally Posted by optimusREIM
Do you love it responsibly like all the booze makers so dutifully remind us after every commercial?
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Pretty much, though there's flexibility in the term haha!
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Originally Posted by windypeg
Meth has been growing for years now. I was starting to hear a lot about it about 5 years ago, and around then I even had some random guy on a bus ask me if I knew where to get some. I don't think it's ramping up because of weed legalization. We're talking 2 pretty different categories of drug with different customer bases and often different vendors. Meth is a hard drug, I'm pretty sure the people using it now were using stuff like inhalants and oxycontin before. I don't really see somebody who likes to smoke a casual joint now and then suddenly switching to freakin meth because legal weed is gonna cost a little more.
As far as the alcohol stuff, well we're not really ADDING anything considering people who want to smoke pot were doing it anyway. You can grow it anywhere, it's going to exist one way or another so it's just a question of who we want selling it - drug dealers or legal, taxable, regulated businesses.
And alcohol IS definitively worse. Almost 50% of all violent crime involves alcohol, possibly higher in Winnipeg where cheap booze has long been a drug of choice for our street population. I've also never seen somebody start a fight, smash a window or puke all over the sidewalk because they smoked a joint. I don't think there is any evidence whatsoever that cannabis is "similarly destructive".
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You don't "see" it? It's not just the user, it's the pusher. It's also not the cost. People chase a buzz, a high, a thrill, and a natural component of that is "what's next"?
I went from beer, to whisky, now to craft cocktails. Normal progression. Bigger leap between weed and meth but it would be blind to think people don't ever chase a new, or different high. Especially when pushed by dealers. There's nothing to not see... if the government is putting dealers out of the weed business, they'll "reinvest" their efforts into other branches of their business model. Interest in meth has always been there, now they will try to make it their cash cow.
And we've known legalized weed is on the horizon for years. It's simply good preparation.
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Originally Posted by bomberjet
Weed doesn't compare to anything else. You don't smoke a joint, see all sorts of colours and start acting crazy like in TV shows. That's not what it is.. You don't smoke a bunch of weed and go crazy like a drunk person for many hours. You smoke some weed and go on with normal life..
Psychologists and all that aren't wrong, but they're also not right. Sure it affects your brain, etc. I don't know anybody who has ruined there life over weed. Most people I know smoke it and get along just fine. Kids, work, whatever. Normal life.
Anyways, off topic again.
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Weed isn't the rage fuel that alcohol is, but it does more than simply let you carry on with "normal life".
I know fully functioning people who smoke occasionally, but I also know people whose lives have been negatively defined by weed. Not meth level ruination, but suggesting it's harmless is incorrect.
Original point was "congrats! We all know how harmful alcohol is, and it's not going anywhere. But that has zero impact on the merit of making weed legal."
Either way, I don't really have a horse in this race. I just hate the stuff, but I'm not in a panic about a meth crisis either. If I were, I'd have to consider how the market is changing in big ways. That's logical.