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Old Posted Jun 13, 2008, 1:01 AM
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It's safe to say this project has already started. Drove by it today and the entire parking lot perimeter is blocked off with construction barriers. Also they have begun tearing up the concrete.
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I got the height by totaling the all the heights of the different sections of the building listed on the blueprints in the PDF. It's a little hard to read, but the first two floors look to be 14'-8". The next 13 floors look like they say 8'-8". The 16th floor looks like 11'-8". The very top doesn't have a height listed, but if you pull out a ruler and base it off of the sections that are marked, you get 10'-2". Add everything up and it comes out to 163'-10".

However, nowhere in the PDF or on the blueprints does it give a single figure for the height.
ydoc, are you sure those measurements don't refer to ceiling height? It just doesn't seem possible for any 16 story building to average just over 10 feet of height per floor, let alone a hotel. On the other hand, those heights you listed sound just like ceiling heights you'd expect for the lobby, regular rooms, and "whatever" top-floor suite respectively.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2008, 2:14 AM
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No, those are pretty reasonable ceiling heights. What gives the building height is the spacing between floors (generally not listed) and any kind of roof height
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2008, 2:55 AM
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So there are five construction projects going on currently on Houston Street.

Indigo
Vistana
Element
300 Houston
Embassy Suites

With Aloft to start soon.
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ydoc, are you sure those measurements don't refer to ceiling height? It just doesn't seem possible for any 16 story building to average just over 10 feet of height per floor, let alone a hotel. On the other hand, those heights you listed sound just like ceiling heights you'd expect for the lobby, regular rooms, and "whatever" top-floor suite respectively.
The measurements were on an exterior elevation, and for the most part divided into equal, adjacent with no gaps sections of 8'-8". 8' is likely the interior ceiling height, with the other 8" accounting for the floor thickness. Ceiling heights are usually whole numbers, such as 8'. The ceiling height of the lobby then is 14', with another 8" floor plate separating it from the first level of hotel rooms. I generally wouldn't expect a standard hotel room to have a ceiling higher than 8'.
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So there are five construction projects going on currently on Houston Street.

Indigo
Vistana
Element
300 Houston
Embassy Suites

With Aloft to start soon.
Where/What is the Element?
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2008, 2:46 AM
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Where/What is the Element?
Sorry, I forgot it's now going to be a TownePlace Suites.

Element is a Starwood extended stay hotel. It was going to be an Element but I assume with an Aloft and potential W going on Houston St, Starwood didn't want to over build.
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Bringing Piazza San Lorenzo back in the discussion; I was searching through and found this
http://www.dbharrell.com/brochures/S...kg%2010-07.pdf
"The site was purchased by PSL, Ltd in May 2005. The new development is fully entitled for the Piazza San
Lorenzo community, having secured the approvals from the City of San Antonio and the Historic Design Review
Commission (HDRC). On September 6, 2007 the City Council of San Antonio approved a resolution to allocate
$25 million in federally sponsored Empowerment Zone Bonds to the development. On September 17, 2007 the
proposed improvements and uses of the Project Plan and Finance Plan for the City’s Tax Increment
Reinvestment Zone TIRZ #9, which includes the Soledad Streetscape Improvements between Houston and
Commerce Streets in the amount of $750,000, was considered and approved by the TIRZ Board of the City. Tax
credits may be available for those PSL operators who retain personnel from within the Empowerment Zone."

it says that opening is for may 1st 2010,and keeps mentioning 2010.
Whether it actually takes off or not is suspect, but it would be nice...
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2008, 9:21 PM
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Does anyone know the actual address of the Embassy Suites? Better yet, could someone provide an aerial with the site outline?
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Bringing Piazza San Lorenzo back in the discussion;
...it says that opening is for may 1st 2010,and keeps mentioning 2010.
Whether it actually takes off or not is suspect, but it would be nice...
It would be nice.

I think it used to say 2009, so I guess it's not officially dead. Although if they hope to make 2010, I would think they need to start site prep soon. It's a decent size project. Houston St. could be plenty busy soon.
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The measurements were on an exterior elevation, and for the most part divided into equal, adjacent with no gaps sections of 8'-8". 8' is likely the interior ceiling height, with the other 8" accounting for the floor thickness. Ceiling heights are usually whole numbers, such as 8'. The ceiling height of the lobby then is 14', with another 8" floor plate separating it from the first level of hotel rooms. I generally wouldn't expect a standard hotel room to have a ceiling higher than 8'.
I'm not arguing with you so don't take it that way. Most hotels, older hotels and and your dime a dozen Interstate "insert number here" hotels have an average ceiling height of about 8 feet.

With this said, and I know that this is only an Embassy Suites, there are a lot of hotels out there especially in downtowns around the country that have ceiling heights of at least nine feet.

I have to agree that it is odd to see a 16 story 160' building.
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Anybody have access to a better rendering?
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Embassy Suites is underway

Just saw this was posted. Has some pictures/renderings.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/realestate/
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