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Old Posted Jan 23, 2018, 5:45 PM
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I was in the area the other morning and snapped some pics for posterity. What a dreadful space this is right now; this building is going to absolutely transform this intersection.

I may or may not have stood in the middle of Broadway whilst taking some of these photos.











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Old Posted Jan 23, 2018, 7:56 PM
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For real, those two projects are going to transform Broadway completely. I feel like it wont even look like SA. Let alone when the other side starts picking up steam.
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2018, 5:31 AM
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Dang, I really liked the new Earl Abel's location.

Also this is amazing.
Rivard Report put out an article on the new Earl Abel’s location:

https://therivardreport.com/earl-abe...k-on-broadway/

I didn’t see anything in the article about this new building. In fact it mentioned several times how significant the new location and move have been for Earl Abel’s, so I can’t imagine they’ll be up and moving AGAIN. Presumably this 1603 Broadway is going to incorporate it somehow or maybe just work around it.
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Rivard Report put out an article on the new Earl Abel’s location:

https://therivardreport.com/earl-abe...k-on-broadway/

I didn’t see anything in the article about this new building. In fact it mentioned several times how significant the new location and move have been for Earl Abel’s, so I can’t imagine they’ll be up and moving AGAIN. Presumably this 1603 Broadway is going to incorporate it somehow or maybe just work around it.
I drive by the new location every day on my way to the Pearl and it never looks crowded. Also, the parking is awful in that small retail strip.
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Rivard Report put out an article on the new Earl Abel’s location:

https://therivardreport.com/earl-abe...k-on-broadway/

I didn’t see anything in the article about this new building. In fact it mentioned several times how significant the new location and move have been for Earl Abel’s, so I can’t imagine they’ll be up and moving AGAIN. Presumably this 1603 Broadway is going to incorporate it somehow or maybe just work around it.
as I mentioned earlier in this thread, if you look closely at the renderings it appears they preserve the entire building and add a second story.
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I drive by the new location every day on my way to the Pearl and it never looks crowded. Also, the parking is awful in that small retail strip.
Every table was full when I went a couple of Sundays ago. I think people just park in the big lot under 281 (or, you know, walk from the adjacent apartment buildings).

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I was at the general meeting of the Tobin Hill Community Association last week, and the association's zoning representative presented this project to the attendees. He also had renderings, which were very different from these. I believe there was a parking garage on the west side of the building, on top of which the developers said they were building a boutique hotel that would be a total of 18 floors. The meeting attendees seemed fairly happy with the project, including its tall height. I wonder if these were earlier or later renderings?
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I was at the general meeting of the Tobin Hill Community Association last week, and the association's zoning representative presented this project to the attendees. He also had renderings, which were very different from these. I believe there was a parking garage on the west side of the building, on top of which the developers said they were building a boutique hotel that would be a total of 18 floors. The meeting attendees seemed fairly happy with the project, including its tall height. I wonder if these were earlier or later renderings?
Oh wow. Hurry up and release those renderings!
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Rivard Report put out an article on the new Earl Abel’s location:

https://therivardreport.com/earl-abe...k-on-broadway/

I didn’t see anything in the article about this new building. In fact it mentioned several times how significant the new location and move have been for Earl Abel’s, so I can’t imagine they’ll be up and moving AGAIN. Presumably this 1603 Broadway is going to incorporate it somehow or maybe just work around it.
Graystreet doesn't own the building Earl Abel's leased, and there is also that small law firm building (Reynaldo Diaz Law) in between Earl Abel's site and Graystreet's property. Both of those existing buildings are probably historic, too, so I would guess these renderings are mainly for show?
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In the preliminary HDRC agenda that came out today, Graystreet is asking permission to construct a 250' tower on this site.
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In the preliminary HDRC agenda that came out today, Graystreet is asking permission to construct a 250' tower on this site.
250' is 23 floors?
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In the preliminary HDRC agenda that came out today, Graystreet is asking permission to construct a 250' tower on this site.
Whoa.

Is that kind of a jump normal? To go from a 7 floor conceptual rendering to 23 floors in the final draft to be put before the HDRC?

Hope it’s spectacular. Imagine the view coming into downtown from 281 and seeing this towering beside the highway...
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Great news. With such an increase in height comes an equal increase in the importance of good architecture. At seven stories I could accept the current design. At 23 stories... nuh-uh.
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Heard a rumor that it's gonna be a W hotel
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What's really interesting is that Graystreet owns acres and acres of land right across Brodaway to develop, but they are still asking for that much height.
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Heard a rumor that it's gonna be a W hotel
If true, the design should be good.
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What's really interesting is that Graystreet owns acres and acres of land right across Brodaway to develop, but they are still asking for that much height.
Meaning?

Can you explain for the planning-challenged amongst us? Is the idea that they wouldn’t ask for that much height if they were planning something smaller across the street?
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No, just that they have lots of space for their plans, and tall stuff generally happens where space is limited.
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Hope this is a good one. I'm actually surprised they are going higher in this area. No complaints from me.
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