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Novacek · #**221** Posted **Apr 30, 2019, 4:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by lzppjb

My comment was not as much related to the side where Red River could go, but more about the side where it is currently. That angle the building is being designed with cuts off a lot of potential square footage. If the road is being moved, it'd be kind of a waste.

In the original master plan, what was built in that plot was similarly cut off. Then once RR was moved, that former road area would become a pedestrian promenade fronting the park.

https://www.centralhealth.net/wp-con...NAL-160118.pdf

page 31. Not sure how much of that is still in play though.

Novacek · #**222** Posted **Apr 30, 2019, 4:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Syndic

It's hard for me to tell but it does seem like it's compatible with a Red River realignment, assuming the parking is all underground. I'm not sure I've ever seen parking be under a road like that before, though.

Isn't the capital complex's massive new garage under the remaining cross roads (even after N Congress is turned into the mall)?

Syndic · #**223** Posted **Apr 30, 2019, 5:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Novacek

Isn't the capital complex's massive new garage under the remaining cross roads (even after N Congress is turned into the mall)?

Oh you may be right. I'll have to go look that up again. I mean, I dig it. (No pun intended.) Bury all the damn garages, IMO.

Syndic · #**224** Posted **Apr 30, 2019, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Novacek

In the original master plan, what was built in that plot was similarly cut off. Then once RR was moved, that former road area would become a pedestrian promenade fronting the park.

https://www.centralhealth.net/wp-con...NAL-160118.pdf

page 31. Not sure how much of that is still in play though.

This is amazing. I had forgotten about this. I blew it off at the time as "pie in the sky" but it's starting to seem more realistic now after seeing the design of block 164.

I'd prefer more park land rather than a paved "pedestrian promenade" but it's still exciting. This area could become a huge hub of activity, seeing how it connects with Waterloo Park.

lzppjb · #**225** Posted **May 1, 2019, 12:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Novacek

In the original master plan, what was built in that plot was similarly cut off. Then once RR was moved, that former road area would become a pedestrian promenade fronting the park.

https://www.centralhealth.net/wp-con...NAL-160118.pdf

page 31. Not sure how much of that is still in play though.

Cool. Thanks for the link and explanation.

The ATX · #**226** Posted **May 15, 2019, 6:56 PM**

Central health has filed plans for the Demo of the Brackenridge campus.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=328450

From the filing:

KevinFromTexas · #**227** Posted **May 15, 2019, 7:03 PM**

KVUE reported this morning they're planning to demolish it this summer. They're also going to have an update this afternoon on what will replace it.

• Video Link

The ATX · #**228** Posted **May 15, 2019, 7:08 PM**

Awesome, an announcement should be anytime. I would think an implosion is in order. But I didn't see mention of it in the filing.

freerover · #**229** Posted **May 15, 2019, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

KVUE reported this morning they're planning to demolish it this summer. They're also going to have an update this afternoon on what will replace it.

• Video Link

Are you sure? This is from the article:

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There are still a lot of possibilities of what could become of the space once the tower is torn down, but the entire property is expected to generate more than $400 million over the course of 99 years.

Burton said they will hold a community conversation next Monday to talk about it in detail.

The ATX · #**230** Posted **May 15, 2019, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by freerover

Are you sure? This is from the article:

The reporter in the video said they will have an update at 6:30PM about what will become of the space [after demo].

The ATX · #**231** Posted **May 15, 2019, 8:21 PM**

But then there is this from Community Impact:

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While the demolition is moving forward, there are no firm plans yet for the property’s remaining four tracts.

Central Health is “keeping its options open,” per the May 15 release, and may pursue redeveloping the remaining tracks, selling them or a combination thereof.

https://communityimpact.com/austin/c...ain-uncertain/

KevinFromTexas · #**232** Posted **May 16, 2019, 6:26 AM**

Here's the updated story KVUE did this afternoon.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/lo...d-293124e0dc53

Syndic · #**233** Posted **May 17, 2019, 2:17 AM**

I'm all in favor of parceling it out block-by-block. Let's turn it into multiple buildings instead of just 1.

lzppjb · #**234** Posted **May 30, 2019, 11:20 PM**

Land swap for relocation of Red River.

https://communityimpact.com/austin/c...s-to-progress/

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According to Central Health documents, the proposed deal includes a land exchange, which would grant Central Health ownership of the existing stretch of Red River Street from 14th Street to 15th Street. That stretch of roadway is included in the Red River Street relocation plans.

The health care district will also maintain and control access of the garage at the corner of Red River Street and 15th Street.

In exchange, Central Health will provide the city with an easement for the relocated stretch of Red River Street, including an easement or encroachment beneath the actual street.

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At that community meeting, Steven Lamp, the vice president of Real Estate and Facilities for Central Health, said the property will be ready for redevelopment by the end of 2019 “if all goes well.”

The ATX · #**235** Posted **Jun 1, 2019, 9:54 PM**

An expedited plan review for the Block 164 office tower was filed Friday.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=267087

Novacek · #**236** Posted **Jun 10, 2019, 4:05 PM**

Red River realignment goes to council at the next meeting. Item 78

http://www.austintexas.gov/departmen...90619-spec.htm

Sounds like they are still turning the existing alignment into a pedestrian plaza fronting the park.

"Authorize negotiation and execution of an interlocal agreement with Travis County Healthcare District doing business as Central Health to construct and realign Red River Street to its historic alignment between 12th and 15th Streets and transition existing Red River Street to a plaza/pedestrian-oriented amenity.
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KevinFromTexas · #**237** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 4:08 PM**

Tower crane plan for Block 164.

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...0PLAN%2001.pdf

The ATX · #**238** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 4:22 PM**

There will be two cranes according to he drawings.

freerover · #**239** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 4:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

There will be two cranes according to he drawings.

Are they just for demo? There is no site plan, right?

The ATX · #**240** Posted **Jun 14, 2019, 5:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by freerover

Are they just for demo? There is no site plan, right?

Those cranes are for construction. No site plan was filed as far as I know. But on 05/31 an "E-Review" was filed for the building's construction. I don't know if this is a new type of site plan application. But I've only seen an E-Review filed on a couple projects, and both of those had a site plan in addition to the E-Review.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=267087