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Originally Posted by Migs
With every repetitive post you make, you make less and less sense. First of all, the Riders are already about 7,000 fans ahead of last years attendence after 4 homes games.
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The increased attendance is directly attributable to the extra bleachers that were added.
If we were talking about an intelligent stadium plan, it might be a study that looks at the cost of making say 2000 more permanent seat, and compares it with the revenue potential.
2,000 seats x 80% use rate x 10 games x $40 = $640,000 revenue in a year
Say the riders were willing to give perhaps 20% of that over to the city in exchange for the upgrade.
A reasonable payback period for a municipal project might be 5 years but to help you out, let's be generous and say 10 years.
So say the city were to commit $1.28 million to a project that added 2000 seats. That would be a project with a reasonable chance of breaking even. Should we do it or shouldn't we would be an intelligent debate. We could play with the numbers a bit.... how does 3,000 work, what if the building cost were 2x as much or 1/2 as much, that kind of thing.
But instead we've got people with zero money and zero numeric sense pitching a stadium Toronto, Vancouver, Winnipeg, and Montreal couldn't afford.
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Originally Posted by Migs
Secondly, the current capacity of Mosaic Stadium is about 31,000, and the plan for the new mutlipurpuse stadium is between 34-35,000 permanent seats. Huge difference hey?
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I thought the plan called for 38,000 but regardless. It sounds like you are advocating spending an amount that could easily spike to a half billion for the sake of 3,000 to 4,000 extra seats? That's $100,000 per seat. Why don't we have all these people who claim they would put their money where their mouth is just put in $100,000 each. Every donor would receive use of their seat for free, and in exchange the riders and the city would receive the stadium as a gift. Sounds good to me (other than the operating cost increase which is something we'd have to study)
So Migs if you truly mean what you say, it's simple. Throw down your $100k and find just 3499 friends who feel the same. There's your stadium right there.
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Originally Posted by Migs
That said, with a retractable roof (yes the University of Pheonix stadium which they are using as a reference was cheaper to build with a retractable roof), you never have to worry about the weather, and you can still enjoy the beautiful days. Pretty logical to most people....
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The Phoenix stadium you speak of... how much snowfall is that retractable roof rated for? And do you think we should just assume the annual heating costs will be the same as the Phoenix stadium?