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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 6:32 PM
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SAN FRANCISCO | 636 4TH St. | 350+ FT / 107+ M


Image © Solomon Cordwell Buenz

Architect: Solomon Cordwell Buenz
Use: Residential (427 units, 3,100 sq. ft. retail, 119 car parking)

"A family trust that owns the 4th and Brannan Streets parcel wants to knock down two small buildings holding a liquor store and coffee shop to build a 350-foot residential tower with 427 units."

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...r-solbach.html
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2016, 4:47 AM
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somewhat randomly and out of the blue here...

I thought the fact that the 'liquor store' on the site (K & L Wine Merchants) had recently vacated its building was a sign of movement here, but the coffee shop is still there, and there is a new sign advertising retail lease space presumably for the wineshop location, so I suppose not.

btw, the back of the brick building that housed that wineshop looks to me like something out of the late 19th century. (not the lower, newer cinderblock addition behind it)

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Old Posted Feb 8, 2018, 5:54 AM
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hard to believe, movement on this one.

Fourth St is going to feel strange with even this tall of a building on it, but we better get used to it

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Old Posted Feb 8, 2018, 6:49 PM
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I like it. Would've been better at 350 ft, but I'm glad that they're finally starting to build towers south of 80.
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2018, 9:27 PM
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I like it. Would've been better at 350 ft, but I'm glad that they're finally starting to build towers south of 80.
Totally agree. Can't wait for this to break ground!
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I like it. Would've been better at 350 ft, but I'm glad that they're finally starting to build towers south of 80.
Agree. I've always thought the skyline looked peculiar with the sharp high rise cutoff at 80.
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2018, 8:43 PM
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hard to believe, movement on this one.

Fourth St is going to feel strange with even this tall of a building on it, but we better get used to it

250 feet is not significantly different than the buildings around the Caltrain station.
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250 feet is not significantly different than the buildings around the Caltrain station.
How tall are they just out of curiosity?
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2018, 11:14 PM
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How tall are they just out of curiosity?
This project for 833,000 sq ft of office, about a block away from both the CalTrain tracks and the 4th St project is 225 ft:


http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...-revealed.html

You can see the tracks in this aerial photo:


http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...-expected.html

And this residential proposal for the corner site right across from the station at 4th & Townsend (same block of 4th St., opposite side of the street) is 420 ft:


http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...-revealed.html
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2018, 11:35 PM
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This project for 833,000 sq ft of office, about a block away from both the CalTrain tracks and the 4th St project is 225 ft
Oh sorry I thought he was talking about the existing buildings along King. I was wondering how tall those were.

I am super excited about the 400 footer...900+ units is huge.
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Oh sorry I thought he was talking about the existing buildings along King. I was wondering how tall those were.
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this says one of them, at King and 4th, is 217 ft. the one across the street from it must be about the same.

what I had meant, and probably should have said more specifically, is: along 4th north of the station, where this one and the 400-footer, among others to come, will be
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this says one of them, at King and 4th, is 217 ft. the one across the street from it must be about the same.

what I had meant, and probably should have said more specifically, is: along 4th north of the station, where this one and the 400-footer, among others to come, will be
The existing mid-rise apartment buildings in Mission Bay North and South Beach are mostly 15-17 floors.
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Updated specs:
- 461 FT | 46 FLOORS
- 522 units (131 studios, 181 1BR, 204 2BR, 6 3BR)
- 3,350 sq ft ground foor retail
- Parking for 110 cars and 207 bicycles

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Supersized Plans for Proposed SoMa Tower Are Now in Play
January 3, 2023

While the City had balked at the proposed height of a 350-foot-tall tower to rise upon the former K&L Wine Merchants building parcel at 636 4th Street, after which plans for a code-compliant, 250-foot-tall, 271-unit tower to rise on the site were drawn, supersized plans for a 461-foot-tall tower to rise on the site are now on the boards and in play.



As newly envisioned and massed by SCB for the project team, the supersized 46-story tower would now yield 522 rental units, a mix of 131 studios, 181 one-bedrooms, 204 twos and 6 threes, along with 3,350 square feet of ground floor commercial space, a storage room for 207 bikes and a basement garage for 110 cars, leveraging a State Density Bonus to build 211 feet higher than already up-zoned. We’ll keep you posted and plugged-in.
https://socketsite.com/archives/2023...w-in-play.html
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2023, 6:39 AM
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Build it immediately
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Oh man, I would LOVE to see something this tall get built south of I-80.
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Exciting! If both this and 655 4th St go up that'll start to create a nice little corridor of density on 4th.
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And it's all right next to the 4th/Brannan Muni Metro station as well as the San Francisco Caltrain station.
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Exciting! If both this and 655 4th St go up that'll start to create a nice little corridor of density on 4th.
Yeah, if this gets built at 461 ft, and 655 4th St gets built at 440 ft and 400 ft, this new trio of 400+ footers will def be a game changer as far as extending the skyline south.

The view from Twin Peaks and the Bay Bridge, as well as 101 and 280 will be drastically different.
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2023, 11:59 PM
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The new massing from another angle was shared by SFYimby as well as the proposed street level floorplan in case anyone hasn't seen it:




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Old Posted Mar 8, 2023, 4:49 PM
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Preliminary Review Complete For 46-Story Tower At 636-648 4th Street In SoMa, San Francisco

BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON MARCH 8, 2023

The SF Planning Department has published initial feedback for the 46-story residential tower proposal at 636-648 4th Street in SoMa, San Francisco. The structure would replace a two-story commercial building a block away from the San Francisco Caltrain Station with 513 new rental homes, slightly reduced from 522 units earlier this year. The document provides the developer, Solbach Property Group, with the first comments from the San Francisco Planning Department about the project features and design before filing an official application.

The initial PPA feedback raises five key issues for Solbach to consider. More details have been requested about the base zoning project to ensure compliance with the existing code. From there, staff have a long passage regarding applying for the State Density Bonus Program, the quantity of affordable housing, gross floor area, and further explanation about the need for the concessions, incentives, and waivers the applicant plans to utilize. The next points elaborate on the planned 20-foot wide parking and loading entrance and request that the team communicate with the SFMTA to ensure that transit operations remain unaffected by construction on the recently-opened above-ground Central Subway Station.

For the streetscape, the planning department shared that a full-block plan was approved in 2019 in conjunction with 88 Bluxome Street by TMG Partners and Alexandria Real Estate Equities that Solbach must comply with. The streetscape plan remains effective even as the 88 Bluxome projects have not yet started construction, and plans are on hold after Pinterest withdrew from its lease. Reporting last year by Laura Waxmann for the San Francisco Business Journal revealed that Alexandria Real Estate is now looking to sell the property.

As currently proposed, the 461-foot tall structure will yield around 501,590 square feet with 395,010 square feet for housing, 3,350 square feet for retail, and 31,010 square feet for the 110-car two-basement garage. Unit sizes will vary with 130 studios, 180 one-bedrooms, 197 two-bedrooms, and six three-bedrooms.

City staff writes that for the 513 unit project, at least 75 units must be affordable, with 52 apartments allocated for households earning roughly 55% of the Area Median Income and 23 apartments for households earning between 80% to 110% AMI.

The ground floor will include a residential lobby off Bluxome Street connected to bicycle storage, bike maintenance, and package services. A retail space and leasing office will open up along 4th Street. The tower will rise from a setback on the second street, with an amenity terrace and common open space. The primary amenity area, however, will fit in the 8th-floor carved-out open space.

While the project saw its first filing in 2015, Solbach appears to be starting from the beginning, leaving room for a new design from the seasoned architectural studio Solomon Cordwell Buenz. A comparison between their initial renderings and the updated isometric illustration shows some cross-over features, including the convex glass wall facing 4th Street culminating in a dramatic angled rooftop seen from across 4th and Brannan Street.
https://sfyimby.com/2023/03/prelimin...francisco.html
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