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Like I said, this is a good thing. Wealthier residents spend more money, and in this case I think it will create a new area that is nice but affordable.
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Staten Islanders are pleased with up-front discussions about New York Wheel




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December 06, 2012


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New York Wheel developer Rich Marin wants Staten Islanders to know he's serious about listening to their concerns and suggestions. At a scoping meeting last month, Frizzi Linck suggested that Marin put in a playground where she might bring her baby. Wednesday night, at a St. George Civic Association meeting that Ms. Linck also attended, Marin said the design has been changed to incorporate a large, stimulating play area to be built into the hillside near Nicholas Street. "That's the kind of attention we're trying to pay to the local community," he said.

Marin, along with Don Capoccia of BFC Partners, the company developing an adjacent outlet shopping mall dubbed Harbor Commons, once again presented plans to a Staten Island audience yesterday at the Civic Association meeting, which about 135 people attended. And while many, including association land use chair David Goldfarb, haven't made up their minds on the project -- especially in the wake of Sandy's coastal flooding -- Goldfarb was pleased with the developers' responsiveness. "Every time they come, they seem to have responded to questions we asked before," Goldfarb said.

One big question the association and others raised at the scoping hearing last month was how the site would weather a big storm -- and Marin and Capoccia came prepared to discuss it. "We take this issue very seriously," Marin said. Marin said the wheel would be built to withstand a Category 3 hurricane, or sustained winds of 129 mph -- the standard to which it would have to be built in Hurricane Alley in Florida. The last category 3 hurricane hit New York City in 1938, and the city has never seen a category 4 or 5 storm. "There is no way to build something that will withstand a force five hurricane," Marin said. "I assure you, if we have a force five hurricane, it will damage the wheel in some way."

In the event of a rare category five storm, the wheel would likely crack or snap at the corner or the rim and fold over onto itself as the crane in Manhattan did during Sandy. As for storm surge, Marin said the wheel would be designed with it in mind, 10 feet above the flood plain. The site would be built to accept water, which would be funneled into cisterns and treated before going back into the harbor. All the wheel's mechanicals would be built up high, where allowable, and would be "bathtubbed" elsewhere.

"I cannot answer the question of what happens if a tanker comes on shore, except to say if a tanker comes up on the shore and hits the wheel, it will probably damage the wheel," Marin said, adding he can't say what happens if a meteor hits it, either.

Dana Getman of SHoP Architects, which is designing the mall for BFC, said they, too, are taking storm precautions. "We're taking precaution with the retail fronting on the lowest level," she said, but added it's more attractive and open than having parking front the water. All critical utilities would be at Richmond Terrace level or higher, 30 feet above Sandy's surge, she said.

The audience was limited to questions -- not comments for or against the wheel. Some focused on views from Richmond Terrace, which would be compromised: The wheel's parking structure comes up above Richmond Terrace, blocking the view from the street. But the public will have access to its green roof, and will have a view from atop it, Marin said. The height is necessary to allow for the required amount of parking, he said. An 11-story hotel on the mall site, too, would block some views.






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Wondering about the Wheel


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December 10, 2012

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Even those who are undecided about — or even opposed to — the New York Wheel planned for the St. George waterfront have to be impressed by the lengths to which the developers are going to answer residents' questions and address community concerns. New York Wheel developer Rich Marin and Don Capoccia of BFC Partners, which is developing Harbor Commons, the adjacent outlet shopping mall, were on hand at Brighton Heights Reformed Church the other night for another public hearing on the project. The St. George Civic Association sponsored the hearing.

After showing a video on the plan, they took questions from a number of the 135 people in attendance. They sought to allay concerns about the plan with commendable specificity. Of course, one of the top issues discussed, given our borough's recent history, was the ability of the 625-foot structure to withstand a powerful storm such as Sandy. Mr. Marin said the Wheel will be designed to withstand a category 3 hurricane, the most powerful the metropolitan region has ever seen. And that was back in 1938. The city has never been hit by a category 4 or 5 hurricane, which are more common in tropical waters.

Sandy, for all its power, wasn't even classified as a hurricane when it made landfall. Its destructive force came from that fact it moved so slowly through the area. Water piling up onshore, not wind, did most of the damage. The Wheel would be built to weather a storm surge 10 feet above the flood plain. All of its machinery would be elevated and surround by a moat that would collect overflowing water and funnel it into cisterns.

Mr. Capoccia added that he would have to have commitments on at least 50 percent of the outlet mall space before BFC could finance it, and that the project has already drawn heavy interest from major retailers.
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This is also going up near the terminal...(not the exact design)


Lighthouse Pointe




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Retail, hotel, 100 condos proposed for former Coast Guard base near Staten Island Ferry




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Backers of a mixed-use waterfront development at the base of the Staten Island ferry terminal in St. George, once home to a lighthouse plant and Coast Guard facility, say they are in the design phase of the project and on track to begin construction by summer 2013. Project CEO Lester Petracca said the development would generate $64 million in direct and indirect benefits, including an estimated 458 construction jobs and some 440 permanent jobs. But first the Federal Transit Administration, which has an interest in the property, must OK the city Economic Development Corporation's application to take control of the 3-acre track, which lies between the St. George Post Office and the ferry terminal and is a stone's throw from the proposed New York Wheel.

U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) publicly asked the FTA to fast-track the application back in mid-October. "We have been in frequent contact with the FTA and understand that they are close to reaching a decision," said Schumer spokeswoman Marisa Kaufman. "We are hopeful the agency will expedite the city's application so that the Lighthouse Pointe project can move forward quickly."

Petracca said the Wheel, with its adjacent Harbor Commons development, would complement Lighthouse Pointe, with visitors and shoppers arriving via ferry, car and on foot.

The brick wall which fronts the property and runs parallel to Bay Street is landmarked and will be retained. Certain of the six historic buildings will be renovated for new use.

Petracca said the property is being marketed to prospective tenants on a number of fronts, including: siting it in an area of the borough with few retail options, its proximity to the ferry as well as to the proposed Wheel.
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Cool, they state the target opening date is december 31st 2015, three years from now.
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^ Yeah, they've been saying that. I guess it will be a real New Year's eve opening.
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Developer who wants to build world's biggest Ferris wheel not slowed by Sandy

By Tracy Connor
January 1, 2013

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The man who wants to build the world’s biggest Ferris wheel in a flood zone of Staten Island says he wasn’t scared off by the damage and death caused by superstorm Sandy. But Richard Marin, the developer of the plan to erect the 625-foot structure, said he's been forced to confront the fears of residents of the ravaged New York City borough. Marin said he can “thank Hollywood” for doomsday scenarios in which people envision his wheel snapping off its posts and “rolling across Staten Island” the next time a hurricane blows up the East Coast. Even though the $500 million project – which includes mall and hotel -- would be built on land that took on four feet of water during Sandy, Marin told NBC News that he doesn’t share those worries.

For one thing, he expects to build at least one or two feet above the level that the federal government deems the flood zone, with all the vital mechanical and electrical equipment safely out of reach of a storm surge. At meeting after meeting, he’s told residents that even if high winds somehow loosened the wheel, it wouldn’t crash down; it would be left dangling by cables much like a Midtown Manhattan crane that came loose during Sandy. With an independent power “microgrid” that relies on alternative energy, a kitchen and a first-aid facility, the complex could even be used as a public shelter if Staten Island gets walloped by Mother Nature again.



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Plan for NYC Ferris wheel rolls on, despite Sandy


By By Jennifer Peltz
January 01, 2013

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As the city grapples with rebuilding after Superstorm Sandy, developers are pressing ahead with plans for an ambitious addition to the shoreline of storm-torn Staten Island: the world's largest Ferris wheel. Sandy's flooding spurred some changes to the nearly $500 million project, which includes an outlet mall and hotel. But developers haven't slowed it or scaled it back. Supporters say Staten Island needs the boost now more than ever.

The storm gave wheel developer Richard Marin "momentary pause," he said. But he quickly decided to keep going on a project he considers a one-of-a-kind boon for the city's oft-dubbed "forgotten borough." "We're providing some things for the city and for the local community that they would have no other way of getting right now," said Marin, the chief executive of New York Wheel LLC. "Quite frankly, this borough is extremely lucky that this kind of project is under way."

The company is looking to line up a multimillion-dollar sponsor by April, with serious interest from a half-dozen companies at the moment, as the project works its way through various government reviews, Marin said.

The project is several miles from the Staten Island communities Sandy struck hardest. Still, the storm pushed 3 to 4 feet of seawater onto the wheel and mall sites, developers said.

The project was already planned so ground floors would sit above what the federal government has, at least to this point, considered a once-in-100-year flood. But the 100-shop outlet center and 200-room hotel are already being raised another 2 feet. The wheel's terminal building may also be moved up.

Nonetheless, since Sandy, the developers have been making sure the buildings can withstand flooding, Marin said. Surfaces on the wheel terminal's ground floor are now being planned in marble or other materials that can withstand seawater. Marin said developers are ensuring that electrical and mechanical equipment will be 30 feet above sea level, and the wheel itself will be designed to withstand sustained winds up to 129 mph, far stronger than Sandy's.


Mall and hotel developer BFC Partners is also elevating key equipment and looking at stone or a water-resistant wall material for the most vulnerable store spaces, partner Joseph Ferrara said. After residents expressed concerns that the mall's four finger-like buildings could channel a storm surge into the neighborhood, the company is thinking about designing the garages to serve as massive retention pools if needed, said Ferrara, who lives on Staten Island.
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Looks like the deal is good.

Now if they can get this project moving forward, this could put Staten Island on the map as a destination!
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Construction will start in 2014 on 100-store outlet mall on Staten Island

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February 08, 2013

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The $230 million retail mecca Harbor Commons will connect Richmond Terrace to New York Harbor via three sweeping promenades, developers said Thursday.

"There is literally tens of thousands of square feet of open space in [the] promenades," said James Prendamano of Casandra Properties. "There will be at least two, if not three plazas in addition to the visual corridors."

Partners in the project -- which, in conjunction with the mammoth New York Wheel, is expected to transform the St. George waterfront -- provided an update Thursday to the Staten Island Economic Development Corporation. Groundbreaking is expected in about a year, with the opening tentatively set for late 2016.

Harbor Commons is to comprise about 100 retail outlet stores, a first for New York City, extensive parking and a 200-room hotel on the site of the present parking lots between the St. George Ferry Terminal and the Richmond County Bank Ballpark at St. George. Aileen Gemma Smith, SIEDC ambassador for North Shore projects, predicted that the outlet mall and the 625-foot-high observation wheel will turn St. George into a "booming economic engine," with the wheel alone expected to draw 4.5 million visitors annually.

Traffic impact studies for Harbor Commons are being conducted along with the New York Wheel developers and the city Department of Transportation. "Everyone we've spoken to, infrastructure is being thought of as one project," Bassett said. "Our traffic experts are studying our project and the wheel together."

The project will entail 1,000 construction jobs and will provide an estimated 1,200 permanent jobs upon completion, Prendamano said. The mall's 340,000 square feet will break down to about 310,000 square feet for retail space and 30,000 square feet for food and beverage businesses. Including the hotel, the total building area for Harbor Commons is 485,000 square feet, Prendamano said, with another 1.5 million square feet in parking below the complex. There will be parking slots, some of them underground, for 1,250 cars.

A new fast-ferry dock will serve the outlet mall, Prendamano said, and the project will include one of the largest green rooftops in the city.
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Dubai Plans to Trump New York’s Bid for Tallest Ferris Wheel

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Feb 14, 2013

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Dubai, the Persian Gulf sheikhdom with the tallest building and biggest shopping mall, plans to build a Ferris wheel that would beat New York’s attempt to set the world height record with a Staten Island attraction.

The Dubai Eye will cost 1 billion dirhams to build and will stand at 210 meters (688 feet), according to a statement on the website of the emirate’s ruler. It will be the centerpiece of a 6 billion-dirham ($1.6 billion) project known as Bluewaters that includes a hotel, restaurants and a family entertainment center on a man-made island off Dubai’s coast. The first phase is set to start in April.

Competition for the tallest wheel is so fierce that projects are losing claims to a record before they are built. Dubai becomes the third city with plans to top the 165-meter Singapore Flyer. In September, New York officials announced plans for a 190-meter wheel would be the centerpiece of a development on Staten Island valued at almost $500 million. That ride would beat Las Vegas’s High Roller, a 167-meter wheel under construction.

“Ferris wheels have been proven successful in attracting visitors and generating revenue,” said Craig Plumb, regional head of research at broker Jones Lang LaSalle Inc. “The London Eye and the Singapore Flyer have been among the most visited attractions in both cities.”

Dubai is starting new projects and reviving developments that stalled when the property market collapsed in 2008. The emirate, which racked up $113 billion of debt turning itself into a business and tourism hub, last year approved the construction of five theme parks days after saying it plans to build a new district to include a shopping mall that will break the size record currently held by the Dubai Mall.

The Dubai Eye will be built on an island connected to the city by a road and monorail and will feature a traditional Middle Eastern market, or souq, encircled by a promenade lined with restaurants, according to the statement. The second phase of the projects includes low rise residential buildings.

“Dubai needs to boost its tourism offering to compete with markets in Europe and the U.S. that have natural tourism drivers that Dubai doesn’t have,” said Matthew Green, head of U.A.E. research at CBRE Group Inc. In Dubai, “attractions have to be built whether its theme parks, museums or golf courses to generate new demand,” he said.

Meraas Holding, a Dubai-based real estate developer, will start building the Dubai Eye in the second quarter, according to the ruler’s website. Starneth BV has been hired to design the attraction. The engineering firm, which includes members of the team that built the London Eye, is also working on New York City’s Ferris wheel.
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And so the sheiks of Dubai doesn't know on what throwing money away.
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I wonder what the occupancy levels will be like in the Dubai Wheel

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Plan calls for Dubai Ferris wheel to be larger than Staten Island attraction

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February 14, 2013

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“It doesn’t surprise me in the least that someone is coming out with a bigger wheel. Anytime you build something, someone will try to build something bigger,” said New York Wheel CEO Richard Marin.

And to its proponents, the New York Wheel isn’t simply about its size. It’s the location that matters.

“The New York Wheel on the New York Harbor at the gateway to America trumps anything in Dubai,” said Marin. “They could put up anything twice the size of what we have, and all you’ll be able to do is look a little further into the desert. And there really isn’t that much to see in Dubai.”

Said Nick Kelly, a spokesman for the city Economic Development Corporation (EDC), “While we’re sure this will complement Dubai’s underwater hotels and man-made islands quite well, nothing will top the New York Wheel’s sweeping views of the greatest city in the world.”

Not coincidentally, the New York Wheel’s design mirrors that of the original plans for the Dubai Eye, which has been in the works for some time, but had fallen short of any concrete plans until recently.

“When we first engaged with the designers, we effectively bought the Dubai wheel plans in the sense that they had done a lot of work on it already and Dubai had pulled the plug on it,” said Marin, who noted “tweaks” have since been made to the plans. “We could make a fairly quick process of getting going by using something that had already been designed.”
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February 14, 2013
Predictable. I knew once this was announced as the 'tallest' it wouldn't last long. I actually thought of Dubai the minute I heard of this.

Oh well, at least Dubai's wheel will probably be eclipsed by some Chinese wheel or something. LOL.
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Dubai ferris wheel being built in the desert, that should work well for the sheik.
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They can have there desert views while we will enjoy sweeping views of the city.

Also, the New York Wheel puts Staten Island on the map as a destination - a place where people want to go!

How many people want to go to the desert?
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They can have there desert views while we will enjoy sweeping views of the city.

Also, the New York Wheel puts Staten Island on the map as a destination - a place where people want to go!

How many people want to go to the desert?


I don't know. Maybe the millions of tourists that visit Dubai every year. A hell of a lot more than visit Staten Island.

It's funny how building the world's tallest ferris wheel was such a great idea to all these American forumers until another country decided to do the same.
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