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https://nypost.com/2020/01/15/look-i...-office-tower/

Look inside 3 Hudson Boulevard, Hudson Yards’ next office tower




By Lois Weiss
January 15, 2020


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A brand-new design has been revealed for 3 Hudson Boulevard, a long-planned tower with 1.85 million square feet of office space.

Just shy of 1,000 feet tall, 3 Hudson Boulevard will top out at 56 stories with several floors having nearly 30-foot-high ceilings and plenty of terraces. It is slated to be ready for tenants at the end of 2023.

The $3 billion-plus project, located on the northwest corner of West 34th Street and Hudson Boulevard, is a collaboration between Joseph Moinian and office real estate investment trust (REIT) Boston Properties.

The REIT is an experienced developer that owns and has built office buildings from Salesforce Tower in San Francisco to numerous Boston projects and, locally, 250 W. 55th St.
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The center core building has just one support column for the large, 50,000 square-foot podium floors that run from stories 3 to 7.

“It’s very unusual to have one column for a trading-sized floor,” says Moinian. These floors cantilever over the duplex lobby and have 16½-foot ceilings with 10½-foot windows.

As the building rises and sets back to smaller floors, it allowed the creation of seven unique floors dubbed “delighters.” These have breathtakingly high ceilings and in some cases, terraces.

Explains Richard Monopoli, senior vice president of development for Boston Properties: “They are the best products and they ‘delight’ the customers.”

“They are not typical,” Moinian adds proudly.

The “delighter” floors have ceilings that are either 19½ feet tall or a whopping 29 feet high. The latter type will include terraces.

The delighter floors include 6, 9, 28, 29, 45, 54 and 55. “An interior architect could do something special,” Powers says about the interior-design possibilities. For instance, staircases could be built between 28 and 29 and 54 and 55.

The “regular” floors will have 14½-foot-tall ceilings.

“It makes it very efficient,” Powers says. Unique in the Big Apple, the entire building will be covered in the high-tech “vision” glass that can be programmed to change tints over the course of the day. This glass is also designed to limit the heat loads and energy usage that plague such towers and is critical to meeting new city energy targets.
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Preparing for construction, Monopoli is currently negotiating orders for the concrete, steel, elevators and the glass curtain wall, while Tishman Construction has been hired as the contractor.

Since the foundation at 3 Hudson Boulevard will soon reach grade level, should an anchor tenant ink a deal by the end of 2020, it would get its keys at the end of 2023. All employees could be moved in during 2024.

The team is targeting and in conversations with the “next” group of large tenants who are expanding or have leases expiring.

Rents would start at about $110 per square foot for the lower floors and rise from there — not a shocking number for brand-new Class A space.
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So it's now 1,000 ft.? And a revised design?

At least Boston Properties is now in charge. They don't mess around, so this will finally be leased.

Also, shouldn't this be in the supertall forum?
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Unique in the Big Apple, the entire building will be covered in the high-tech “vision” glass that can be programmed to change tints over the course of the day.


Interesting to see how that plays out.
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seems like the FAA submission was accurate. I'm glad that at the least it's a supertall. Pretty boring otherwise.
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^ Yeah, that FAA submission was for 987 ft, not sure what the exact number is now, but close to 1,000 ft.




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Considering this is like the 27th time this has changes who knows... good news though!

This will also be 56 stories at least according to the article, title update?

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Just shy of 1,000 feet tall, 3 Hudson Boulevard will top out at 56 stories with several floors having nearly 30-foot-high ceilings and plenty of terraces. It is slated to be ready for tenants at the end of 2023.
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The article refers to setbacks, but there don't appear to be any on the north, south, or west sides of the façade shown in the rendering.
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you can see the setbacks in the new rendering depicting the Western face looking towards the Hudson. Those are terraces, not blowthrough floors. A building like this doesn't need blow through floors like toothpick towers on billionaires' row.
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Hooray, one more supertall for NYC! If I am counting correctly, when completed it will be the city's 20th supertall.
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you can see the setbacks in the new rendering depicting the Western face looking towards the Hudson. Those are terraces, not blowthrough floors. A building like this doesn't need blow through floors like toothpick towers on billionaires' row.
Those just appear to be open air areas. I don’t see setbacks with smaller floorplates as the tower rises.
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lets face it, whatever goes up here, they are angling for a pretty boring office building.

it will be good to get that hole in the ground built and i guess another supertall.
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Those just appear to be open air areas. I don’t see setbacks with smaller floorplates as the tower rises.
To both your points, if you're referring to the two uppermost horizontal gaps in the facade, then the setbacks you're talking about are quite minimalist.

I'd have to see a hi-res image.

This controllably hued glass idea sounds promising. In fact, I'd like to see a color scheme similar to Vista in Chicago.


Who knows? Maybe at some future point, we could have a dynamically changing skin to a future supertall......
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Overall good day. 2 WTC news, and 3 Hudson back to being a super tall (again lol).

I was looking a the super tall count and was getting worried.

Counting all u/c or complete, we have 20 super talls (includes 270 Park as that is happening). CTBUH listing 3 Hudson at 987 ft so 300.8 meters.

Assuming 2 WTC, lucky 21! Now if we factor proposals, in theory, 26 super talls.

Still concerning figures, BECAUSE WE NEED MORE!!!
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Thank You!

Personal TakeAway:

1. Those have to be the most subtle setbacks I have ever seen on a high-rise+, period.

2. The facade patterning is a 180º turnaround from the vapidity witnessed in the prior renders.

3. They could have jazzed up the podium somewhat.

4. As Guy pointed out from the article, this hue-shifting glass (so-called "SmartGlass?) can rightly end up being the sole make-or-breaker; but as it is the uptick in height will make the aforementioned feature more prominent.

I'm trying to find a site where I might be able to read more about what the engineers/architects are trying to accomplish here.

Edit: It compliments 55 H beautifully. Now:

No...More...Tweaking!
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Thanks, Chris. I see the setbacks now. They're pretty slight.

I like this tower.
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It's still boring, but is now classy. Will be a nice background tower in HY.
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Girasole tower went from twisting, to kinda sorta twisting, to straight. The name itself is irrelevant now, Girasole in Spanish if twisting / sun for the Sunflower plant that twist when facing the sun.
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