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Originally Posted by Myomi
You can say what you want about the design of the buildings and their artistic merits, but you can't make up stuff about one plan being denser than the other.
Trammell Crow's proposal comes in at more than 600,000 sq. ft. of additional development than Stratus. To put that into perspective, that's more than if you added the Frost Bank Building to the Stratus proposal. There are also over 1200 additional parking spaces. Those extra spaces are necessary to support all the additional people that will living and working downtown in this plan. Trammell Crow provides 400,000 additional square feet of office space, as well as 200,000 square feet of hotel space (something that is always in demand in Austin).
The only category that Stratus's beats Trammell Crow's proposal in is retail space. And the large majority of that was for the HEB. In terms of small shops and other pedestrian oriented retail spaces, they were equal (if not a slight edge for Trammell Crow). And as someone who lives on the east side of downtown, far far away from Whole Foods, I would actually prefer any HEB downtown to be further east, closer to all the residential near I-35. Maybe in a project near Rainey Street (fingers crossed). At the very least, that would spread the grocery stores around downtown, as opposed to having all of them
within blocks of each other.
Looking over all the proposals, the Stratus plan was actually the 4th densest of the plans. I am not entirely sold on the Trammell Crow plan's aesthetics, but I am really looking forward to the amount of actual space that it will be bringing to downtown. And it will be a lot of fun watching all those buildings go up!
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well it's like i said somewhere in my other posts... i'm simply judging by the renderings. the renderings can obviously change... but there is though as you say, more parking space for people that "live and work" around the area. of course it's always a good thing... me personally i'm just not a big fan of it. and that was basically what i was focusing on, based on the renderings it simply less dense than the stratus renderings. at least all the parking space makes it seem like it. i don't know... i'm not an architect or anything but i'm basically judging based on what i see. i'm not such a big fan of the renderings of the trammel crowe... but like i said, it can always change. i really hope it does. their renderings were boooooooring. but i agree i still can't wait for this project to go up and see these buildings get built, ironically.
i'm also glad to hear that there is more retail in the trammel. hopefully 2nd st will be all the fuss people seem to make it. i hear people come from out of town visit 2nd st because they were told it's a great spot to "shop" and when they come up to me at work they always ask where the shops are. i shrug my shoulders and say... go to south congress!
too bad i won't be here though to see this place blow up!