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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 2:52 AM
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Just wanted to post some scale for how large this boom is in Chicago. I looked up Los Angeles current tallest buildings on Emporis http://www.emporis.com/statistics/ta...angeles-ca-usa

1. US Bank Building 1,018 ft
2. Aon Center 858 ft
3. Two California Plaza 750 ft
4. Gas Company Tower 749 ft
5. Bank of America Plaza 735 ft
6. 777 Tower 725 ft
7. Wells Fargo Tower 723 ft
8. Figeroa at Wilshire 717 ft
9. City National Tower 699 ft
10. Paul Hastings Tower 699 ft

Looking at the list of towers Proposed (most approved) and under construction here and their is as much height in this current boom to reproduce MOST of the current Los Angeles skyline.

1. Wanda Vista 1,186 ft
2. Wolf Point South 1,100 ft
3. 113 E Roosevelt 887 ft
4. 451 E Grand 850 ft
5. 1000 S Michigan Ave 832 ft
6. 150 N Riverside 752 ft
7. 130 N Franklin 699 ft (corrected down from 752)
8. Wolf Point East 750 ft
9. River Point 730 ft
10. 201 North Columbus 642 ft

Last edited by TSSTaylor; Apr 15, 2016 at 3:26 PM. Reason: Adjusted height on 130 N Franklin.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 3:43 AM
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At 620 units he will be required to go for a PD, the threshold in DX-5 is only 150 units.

In theory Buck could break the project into four separate phases and build up to three of the towers as-of-right, but there's also a height trigger at 130' that all four towers will exceed.
Height trigger isn't a height limit. That just means when you have to go PD. There are no height limits in DX zoning.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 3:49 AM
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Just wanted to post some scale for how large this boom is in Chicago. I looked up Los Angeles current tallest buildings on Emporis http://www.emporis.com/statistics/ta...angeles-ca-usa

1. US Bank Building 1,018 ft
2. Aon Center 858 ft
3. Two California Plaza 750 ft
4. Gas Company Tower 749 ft
5. Bank of America Plaza 735 ft
6. 777 Tower 725 ft
7. Wells Fargo Tower 723 ft
8. Figeroa at Wilshire 717 ft
9. City National Tower 699 ft
10. Paul Hastings Tower 699 ft

Looking at the list of towers Proposed (most approved) and under construction here and their is as much height in this current boom to reproduce MOST of the current Los Angeles skyline.

1. Wanda Vista 1,186 ft
2. Wolf Point South 1,100 ft
3. 113 E Roosevelt 887 ft
4. 451 E Grand 850 ft
5. 1000 S Michigan Ave 832 ft
6. 150 N Riverside 752 ft
7. 130 N Franklin 752 ft (not sure if this one is correct)
8. Wolf Point East 750 ft
9. River Point 730 ft
10. 201 North Columbus 642 ft
Nice summary 130n Franklin did get cut down to 700ft I believe but otherwise that's some good height that will def change Chicago skyline. I'm sure whatever eventually gets build at spire site will be a supertall. Also if and when the 2nd phase (twin tower) of 113 Roosevelt should be close to supertall Status.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 12:18 PM
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^ Many of those may not get built for a while, if ever. Also, I think the height is off for some of them.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 1:39 PM
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^ Many of those may not get built for a while, if ever. Also, I think the height is off for some of them.
4 of the 10 are U/C, and Wanda Vista has a good chance of being built. I think the other ones in S. Loop also have a good chance too. The only crapshoots up there IMO are the other Wolf Point buildings. I'd say that most of them have a good chance of being built.



IN OTHER NEWS --** 8 E Huron got its building permit yesterday.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 1:48 PM
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IN OTHER NEWS --** 8 E Huron got its building permit yesterday.
Tbh, I had given up hope that 8 E Huron was going to get built. I'm glad to be proven wrong. Looks like CAB just put up an article about it:
http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2...there-was-one/
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 1:49 PM
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Tbh, I had given up hope that 8 E Huron was going to get built. I'm glad to be proven wrong. Looks like CAB just put up an article about it: http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2...there-was-one/
Why is that? They had torn down those buildings on the site recently. Did you think they were going to leave it as a vacant lot?
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 2:59 PM
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Confidence Level on starting this cycle.
1. Wanda Vista 1,186 ft -95% -Seems to have a start date.
2. Wolf Point South 1,100 ft -65% - Haven't heard much on this and the design isn't finalized.
3. 113 E Roosevelt 887 ft -80% - Mentioned a start date at community meeting.
4. 451 E Grand 850 ft -UC
5. 1000 S Michigan Ave 832 ft -60%
6. 150 N Riverside 752 ft -UC
7. Wolf Point East 750 ft -40%
8. River Point 730 ft - UC
9. 130 N Franklin 700 ft -50% -Have they secured any tenants?
10. 201 North Columbus 642 ft - 70%
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 4:57 PM
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330 N. Clark - designed by HKS
Ground floor retail/lobbies, office space on 2-7 connected to the Reid Murdoch Building, topped by 500 hotel rooms





It looks like they are building a connection over Carroll between Clark and LaSalle

All of this makes me hope that the Westin next door will someday finally be redeveloped into something attractive.

Hope this one gets built...Would look great in that area.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 4:57 PM
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Why is that? They had torn down those buildings on the site recently. Did you think they were going to leave it as a vacant lot?
It's more so how long it took for a 26 story building to begin construction since it was proposed. I actually forgot those rowhomes got demolition permits even though I believed I linked an article mentioning it a while back.
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It's more so how long it took for a 26 story building to begin construction since it was proposed. I actually forgot those rowhomes got demolition permits even though I believed I linked an article mentioning it a while back.
I'm not that surprised. I'm looking at the permit log right now. There were two permits for the foundation. The first one had its first step (prelim intake) approved on 7/10/2015 then the city on 8/5/2015 denied the landscape review. It says "Incomplete" on the permit.

Then there's another one - which is the one that just got approved which had its first step approved on 10/29/2015. Bunch of other approvals after that until yesterday. It essentially took the last permit 5.5 months for the city to approve, and there was a previous one. They've been trying since AT LEAST last summer.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 8:32 PM
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 8:33 PM
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 9:02 PM
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They're not wasting any time (taken today):
Wow, nice to see another one sneak up and start on us.

I'm looking forward to this tower going up, it will help hide that ugly concrete monstrosity in the background.

Also, this development likely secures the preservation of that little historic brick structure for perpetuity.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2016, 10:51 PM
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What would be the reason for such a change in the zoning revisions?
PKDickman already covered it. All downtown zoning bonuses are being eliminated, not just underground parking. Downtown development, in the city's mind, is a cash cow and Emanuel wants to milk it to the benefit of the neighborhoods rather than improving the architecture of downtown.

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The city just made sure the amount was spent and the work was up to snuff. This is a task bureaucrats are good at, whereas getting actual work done is not their strong suit.

While I like the notion of an "affordable business fund" I am not sure this will work that way.
I don't have much more faith in the City of Chicago than you do, but we do need better and bigger funding sources for affordable housing. Large parts of the citizenry are demanding new construction affordable housing, which is impossible without significant government subsidy. I wish they were addressing the insane codes and red tape that makes affordable housing cost so much, and the things that generally make construction in Chicago expensive, but I digress...
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^ Except that the money from the funds created by this new ordinance won't go to affordable housing.
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^Um...right. I have an above medium income and I still live in vintage units because most new construction or even full gut renovations are still out of my budget.
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Thats more developer greed than market value.
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2016, 4:38 PM
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Thats more developer greed than market value.
That's an oversimplification and reflects more emotion-based thinking than true reasoning.
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2016, 4:41 PM
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^Um...right. I have an above medium income and I still live in vintage units because most new construction or even full gut renovations are still out of my budget.
Don't blame the developer. Blame the cost of lumber, concrete, steel, copper, furnaces, sump pumps, ejector pumps, windows, shingles, electric conduit, ductwork, air conditioners, fuel, ceramic tiles, vanities, ceiling fans, fixtures, appliances, insulation, contractors fees, architects fees, structural engineers fees, city permit fees, and the lender's interest fees.

Sheesh, you guys act as if some guy is charging you $500k for a house and pocketing ALL of it. This isn't some sort of greedy scam. This stuff is very expensive, and the city isn't making it less so. Stop blaming 1 guy for the whole damn problem...
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