HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #201  
Old Posted Dec 12, 2014, 7:13 PM
Baker58 Baker58 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 167
Quote:
Originally Posted by TannerF View Post
There is no way the route will change. Like you said all that going to court really does is to try to get more compensation. It's not really even a speed bump because the province will expropriate the land and people can still be fighting in court after the bypass is done just like the Pinkie interchange. I don't have enough land affected for it to make financial sense to sign on with the lawyer. Unlike some people I have accepted the bypass is coming through whether I like it or not. My concern is the same thing I said yesterday that the space in the middle of the bypass at the crossing is not big enough for farm equipment to stop, but even that seems like its a pointless fight since highways has no interest in making it bigger.
Yep I don't like that either. I would prefer no farm equipment on that road but that isn't happening until all the land within the bypass is expropriated eventually. Hopefully they do widen that part and I hope you stay safe whenever you do have to cross that. That will be unnerving to say the least.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #202  
Old Posted Dec 12, 2014, 7:18 PM
North_Regina_Boy North_Regina_Boy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Regina, SK (formerly Saskatoon)
Posts: 1,474
More Bypass Related Information:

http://www.leaderpost.com/Business+r...107/story.html

There must be a big announcement coming, a lot of coverage last few days.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #203  
Old Posted Dec 12, 2014, 7:28 PM
TannerF TannerF is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 101
I don't know what the announcement could be unless they have picked the group that will build it. I talked to the guy handling land acquisition on behalf of highways yesterday to find out what is going on since there are so many newspaper articles lately. Right now everyone is waiting on a second opinion appraisal that the department of highways offered for free. They expected for us to have that appraisal mid November now they expect it to be mid January. The original plan was to have land acquisition done by the end of 2014, but he told me that getting to first round of offers out took so long that there was no way that could happen.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #204  
Old Posted Dec 12, 2014, 7:38 PM
North_Regina_Boy North_Regina_Boy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Regina, SK (formerly Saskatoon)
Posts: 1,474
Quote:
Originally Posted by TannerF View Post
I don't know what the announcement could be unless they have picked the group that will build it. I talked to the guy handling land acquisition on behalf of highways yesterday to find out what is going on since there are so many newspaper articles lately. Right now everyone is waiting on a second opinion appraisal that the department of highways offered for free. They expected for us to have that appraisal mid November now they expect it to be mid January. The original plan was to have land acquisition done by the end of 2014, but he told me that getting to first round of offers out took so long that there was no way that could happen.
Humm, well that is interesting news. Thanks for sharing. I am anxiously awaiting functional drawings of the project so see how it all shapes up. Also environmental / noise reports.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #205  
Old Posted Dec 12, 2014, 9:48 PM
Stormer's Avatar
Stormer Stormer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,209
They will not announce the preferred proponent until spring/summer 2015
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #206  
Old Posted Dec 13, 2014, 1:12 AM
Robag Robag is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Regina
Posts: 301
Quote:
Originally Posted by TannerF View Post
I don't know what the announcement could be unless they have picked the group that will build it. I talked to the guy handling land acquisition on behalf of highways yesterday to find out what is going on since there are so many newspaper articles lately. Right now everyone is waiting on a second opinion appraisal that the department of highways offered for free. They expected for us to have that appraisal mid November now they expect it to be mid January. The original plan was to have land acquisition done by the end of 2014, but he told me that getting to first round of offers out took so long that there was no way that could happen.
The LP is doing a 3 day coverage of the bypass. I don't think it's because there is an announcement, I think they have been doing some research and now they are putting it on paper for the average Joe to see.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #207  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 5:23 AM
blacktrojan3921's Avatar
blacktrojan3921 blacktrojan3921 is offline
Regina rhymes with fun!
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Regina, SK
Posts: 887
Got an interesting email from the city with regards to the naming of the bypass (For the record I told the mayor it should be named after Chief Thunderchild), here's their response:

Quote:
Hi Andrew. You sent a request in recently that read:

I think that the Regina bypass that is being discussed (The part that forms a ring around the city) should have a legitimate street name much like Ring Road, Calgary¿s Stony Trail, and Edmonton's AnthonyHenday Drive.

That is why I propose that out of the approved street names that have not yet been used; the Regina bypass should be named after Chief Thunderchild.



Initially the City of Regina believed that the Province of Saskatchewan intended to name the bypass, and we were coordinating with their department on naming so that the name would not cause health and safety issues. We have just recently learned that the province has no interest in giving the bypass a name (they will only give it a route number) so naming has now been put back into the hands of the City of Regina. We are currently working on a process to name this new bypass. Since it crosses into the RM of Sherwood and, as you pointed out, is a very major traffic project, we do want to ensure that whatever process we develop will ensure that the bypass gets a name commensurate with the road’s importance.


While the Civic Naming Committee approves names for use, it does not actually name streets (this is left to the developers, typically). Since in this case the “developer” (i.e. the Province of Saskatchewan) doesn’t have any interest in naming the bypass, this is sort of uncharted waters for us here. We want to make the process as inclusive as possible because it crosses jurisdictions with the RM, and we want to give it a name of importance. (Ring Road, which was named because it was supposed to ring the city, didn’t actually ring the city by the time construction on it had ended!) The plan at present is to ensure the proposed name has gone through the Civic Naming Committee for health and safety reasons, but other than that there is no plan yet. (We only learned this on Friday afternoon!) That’s basically step 1 and all other steps have to be determined. I can say that we are looking at what jurisdictions like Calgary and Edmonton have done with their bypasses and freeways as an example, for sure. Beyond that, though, I don’t know what’s going to happen.


That said, I will definitely record your suggestion and pass it forward as discussions proceed. I agree that Chief Thunderchild is exactly the sort of person of importance to Saskatchewan and the nation that would probably be considered on a short list for the bypass. Initial thoughts have brought up names of prominent politicians, aboriginal leaders (though there’s obviously some overlap there, as with Chief Thunderchild), and people of that stature. Very prominent and important residents, in other words. I think I can probably safely say it won’t be named for a plant or a bird!


I can keep you posted and let you know when a process is determined. I will also definitely pass on the suggestion of Chief Thunderchild as a possible name. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Dana Turgeon

Historical Information & Preservation Supervisor

Office of the City Clerk

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #208  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 2:45 PM
North_Regina_Boy North_Regina_Boy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Regina, SK (formerly Saskatoon)
Posts: 1,474
Interesting information. It would be interesting if a few names were shortlisted and voted on by Regina and area residents. Like say on the City of Regina website.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #209  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 3:26 PM
Treesplease Treesplease is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 990
Quote:
Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921 View Post
Got an interesting email from the city with regards to the naming of the bypass (For the record I told the mayor it should be named after Chief Thunderchild), here's their response:
Blacktrojan - thanks for posting and sharing. What was your logic for liking Thunderchild as a name again?

also, very intruiged by the statement: "The plan at present is to ensure the proposed name has gone through the Civic Naming Committee for health and safety reasons"

What kind of name could possibly have health and safety implications?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #210  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 3:54 PM
Stormer's Avatar
Stormer Stormer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,209
Quote:
Originally Posted by Treesplease View Post
Blacktrojan - thanks for posting and sharing. What was your logic for liking Thunderchild as a name again?

also, very intruiged by the statement: "The plan at present is to ensure the proposed name has gone through the Civic Naming Committee for health and safety reasons"

What kind of name could possibly have health and safety implications?
I suppose any controversial name that could either be a rallying point for protestesr or the focus of political protests. Think Harper Highway. Maybe a name that encourages recklessness like the Regina Autobahn.

I still do not get the Thunderchild thing. He has nothing to do with Regina. He is a Treaty 6 chief. I could understand a Treaty 4 Chief:

Treaty 4 signatories from the chiefs as follows: Ka-kii-shi-way (Ochapowace), Pis-qua (Pasqua), Ka-wez-ance (Cowessess), Ka-kee-na-wup (Muskowekwan), Kus-kee-tew-mus-coo-musqua (Little Black Bear), Ka-ne-on-us-ka-tew (Gordon), Can-ah-ha-cha-pew (Peepeekisis), Kii-si-caw-chuck (Day Star), Ka-ra-ca-toose (Kawacatoose), Ka-kii-nis-ta-haw (Kahkewistehaw), Cha-ca-chas (Ochapowace), Wa-pii-moose-too-sus (Star Blanket), Meemay (Cote).


Personally I think I would prefer a descriptive or generic name unless the historic individual name really rolled off the tongue and would actually be used by people.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #211  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 4:27 PM
North_Regina_Boy North_Regina_Boy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Regina, SK (formerly Saskatoon)
Posts: 1,474
Might be interesting if it continues the name of Highway 11

Could be Highway 111 Louis Riel Trail
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #212  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 5:42 PM
Stormer's Avatar
Stormer Stormer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,209
Quote:
Originally Posted by North_Regina_Boy View Post
Might be interesting if it continues the name of Highway 11

Could be Highway 111 Louis Riel Trail

It is more Highway 1 than Highway 11.

From Wikipedia:

The name "ring road" is used for the majority of metropolitan circumferential routes in the European Union, such as the Berliner Ring, the Brussels Ring, the Amsterdam Ring, the Boulevard Périphérique around Paris and the Leeds Inner and Outer ring roads. Australia and India also use the term ring road, as in Melbourne's Western Ring Road and Hyderabad's Outer Ring Road. In Canada the term is the most commonly used, with "orbital" also used to a much lesser extent.
In Europe, some ring roads, particularly those of motorway standard which are longer in length, are often known as "orbital motorways". Examples include the London Orbital (188 km), Rome Orbital (68 km) and Manchester Orbital (56 km).
In the United States, many ring roads are called beltlines, beltways, or loops, such as the Capital Beltway around Washington, D.C. Some ring roads, such as Washington's Capital Beltway, use "Inner Loop" and "Outer Loop" terminology for directions of travel, since cardinal (compass) directions cannot be signed uniformly around the entire loop. The term 'ring road' is occasionally - and inaccurately - used interchangeably with the term 'Bypass'.


How about the Regina Chastity Beltway
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #213  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 6:16 PM
Festivus Festivus is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,156
I don't understand the Thunderchild naming either. It's not bad, but I only want a major road named after someone who played either a very significant role locally, or provincially/nationally. I'd also hope they avoid populist stuff like naming if after a Roughrider.

If the NDP were in power I could see a push for the Douglas Expressway/Drive or something like that since he was important provincially and federally.

No matter what they do, I hope they avoid using someone's entire name. I don't want to drive on the Thomas C. Douglas Memorial Expressway.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #214  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 6:35 PM
brithgob brithgob is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 833
They forgot Winnipeg's Perimeter Highway
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #215  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 6:57 PM
North_Regina_Boy North_Regina_Boy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Regina, SK (formerly Saskatoon)
Posts: 1,474
Quote:
Originally Posted by brithgob View Post
They forgot Winnipeg's Perimeter Highway
And the trails around Calgary and Edmonton.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #216  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 7:12 PM
brithgob brithgob is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 833
Quote:
Originally Posted by North_Regina_Boy View Post
And the trails around Calgary and Edmonton.
They're both informally referred to as "ring roads." In fact the signs at the entrances to Calgary say "Stoney Trail - Ring Road"

EDIT: Anyway, I thought I saw one like that heading into Calgary from the west on #1. But I couldn't find it on street view.

Last edited by brithgob; Dec 17, 2014 at 7:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #217  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 7:42 PM
Stormer's Avatar
Stormer Stormer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,209
Quote:
Originally Posted by Festivus View Post
I don't understand the Thunderchild naming either. It's not bad, but I only want a major road named after someone who played either a very significant role locally, or provincially/nationally. I'd also hope they avoid populist stuff like naming if after a Roughrider.

If the NDP were in power I could see a push for the Douglas Expressway/Drive or something like that since he was important provincially and federally.

No matter what they do, I hope they avoid using someone's entire name. I don't want to drive on the Thomas C. Douglas Memorial Expressway.
Richard H. Assman Memorial Orbital Belt Loop.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #218  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 7:44 PM
brithgob brithgob is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 833
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormer View Post
Richard H. Assman Memorial Orbital Belt Loop.
He was still alive a year ago, working at the now-closed Petrocan on the west side of south Albert
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #219  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 7:50 PM
Migs Migs is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Regina, Sk, Canada
Posts: 3,774
Roughriders Expressway
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #220  
Old Posted Dec 17, 2014, 8:01 PM
Stormer's Avatar
Stormer Stormer is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,209
Quote:
Originally Posted by brithgob View Post
He was still alive a year ago, working at the now-closed Petrocan on the west side of south Albert

musical tribute from Tony Orlando[2] on Letterman:
"Northgate Petro-Canada
Oh, they're relocating
Their new office at Victoria Square
They're celebrating
Oh vaya con dios, Dick Assman
Vaya con dios, my love"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz-h16TwRDo



Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 1:42 PM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.