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Old Posted May 13, 2020, 3:02 AM
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Right? Such a great state. Providence is criminally underrated, even on this forum. And I know you and I both love Colt State Park.

You're right, too: South County vernacular has that Swamp Yankee feel, almost Mid-Atlantic / Tidewater. Providence, Pawtucket, Central Falls etc. have lots of archetype triple-deckers. Bristol County feels like the natural extension of Cape Cod half of it actually used to be before Mass and RI traded a few towns.

But to people outside New England, I'm sure this all looks the same: postcard New England seaside.
Despite living in Massachusetts for 5 years, I only went to Providence twice and most of what I know about Rhode Island is from Family Guy....
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You hear PA described as "Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in between." MA doesn't have that type of split. It's basically the same accent, ethnic admixture, and political inclinations throughout. Definitely the same pro sports allegiances.
Which is a completely inaccurate description of Pennsylvania.

While it’s true that Philly and Pittsburgh are by far the two largest cities, and much of the state is heavily forested rural land, the “Alabama” description is really inaccurate. If anything, the Greater Pittsburgh region is rather Alabama-like, more so than other parts of PA that are not Philly/SE PA. Outside of Allegheny County (Pittsburgh), southwestern PA is pretty damn red, socially conservative, with a strong Appalachian culture.
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Northeastern Illinois is Chicago. Southern Illinois is the rural South. The end.

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Right? Such a great state. Providence is criminally underrated, even on this forum. And I know you and I both love Colt State Park.

You're right, too: South County vernacular has that Swamp Yankee feel, almost Mid-Atlantic / Tidewater. Providence, Pawtucket, Central Falls etc. have lots of archetype triple-deckers. Bristol County feels like the natural extension of Cape Cod half of it actually used to be before Mass and RI traded a few towns.

But to people outside New England, I'm sure this all looks the same: postcard New England seaside.
There's probably somewhat of a cultural cleavage in RI. The beach towns from Newport south are very New Yorky. Watch Hill, especially. Inland RI around Providence and Pawtucket are very Boston-oriented.

If you're headed north from NYC, Watch Hill is roughly the first place you have completely open ocean, as Connecticut beach towns are really LI Sound towns.
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Here’s an attempted breakdown of Idaho.


Northern Idaho—mountains, forests, lakes, resort towns, the Palouse


Source: www.priestlake.org



Source: https://www.banjohangout.org/archive/284580



Southern Idaho—mountains, high desert, farms/ranches, canyons, Boise


Source: https://www.roadscholar.org/find-an-...ke-River-Plain



Source: https://far-away.com/luxury-river-ad.../owyhee-river/



Source: www.tsheets.com



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Central Idaho—rugged mountains, lava fields


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Since I grew up in Wisconsin, here’s a stab at what I think are the three main areas. Northern Wisconsin definitely has a different accent than Southern—more Canadian, similar to what you hear in Minnesota and the Dakotas. Milwaukee has its own distinct accent and terms (e.g. “bubbler”).


Northern Wisconsin—very rural, lakes, trees, hills, resorts

Source: https://www.minocqua-real-estate.com/manitowish-waters/



Southwestern Wisconsin (the “Driftless Region”)—hills, cliffs, farms


Source: https://www.wpr.org/farmers-taking-m...ulated-lenders



Source: https://boingboing.net/2012/04/27/th...wisconsin.html



Southeastern Wisconsin—farms and cities


Source: https://www.newsbreak.com/michigan/c...quality-awards



Source: https://www.northstarmeetingsgroup.c...onvention-2020



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Some great inspiration for road trips here. Idaho is calling my name!
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Since I grew up in Wisconsin, here’s a stab at what I think are the three main areas. Northern Wisconsin definitely has a different accent than Southern—more Canadian, similar to what you hear in Minnesota and the Dakotas. Milwaukee has its own distinct accent and terms (e.g. “bubbler”).
There are distinct regional accents in Michigan too. Metro Detroit is more typical of the northern cities accent mix, while the northern lower peninsula and upper peninsula sound more like something from the movie Fargo. Gretchen Whitmer's (current governor) accent is an example of that "Fargo" accent. Rick Snyder (previous governor) also had a slight "Fargo" accent, but less pronounced than Whitmer. The two governors before him (Granholm and Engler) have accents that are more in line with what you would hear in Metro Detroit, even though Granholm is actually not a Michigan native (her husband is).
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There are distinct regional accents in Michigan too. Metro Detroit is more typical of the northern cities accent mix, while the northern lower peninsula and upper peninsula sound more like something from the movie Fargo. Gretchen Whitmer's (current governor) accent is an example of that "Fargo" accent. Rick Snyder (previous governor) also had a slight "Fargo" accent, but less pronounced than Whitmer. The two governors before him (Granholm and Engler) have accents that are more in line with what you would hear in Metro Detroit, even though Granholm is actually not a Michigan native (her husband is).

Yep, Northern Wisconsin and the UP are essentially interchangeable when it comes to accents, culture, economy, and even food (pasties, anyone? how about an all-you-can-eat Friday Fish Fry at a Supper Club?!?).

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Right? Such a great state. Providence is criminally underrated, even on this forum. And I know you and I both love Colt State Park.
Del's lemonade on a summer day in Colt State Park is like a step back in time. Yes, very much under the radar.

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There's probably somewhat of a cultural cleavage in RI. The beach towns from Newport south are very New Yorky. Watch Hill, especially. Inland RI around Providence and Pawtucket are very Boston-oriented.

If you're headed north from NYC, Watch Hill is roughly the first place you have completely open ocean, as Connecticut beach towns are really LI Sound towns.
It's still pretty New Englandy in southern RI as well but you're apt to see more visitors from NY along HWY 1 as well as second homes.
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I’ve lived in many states so I’ll try to do them all in a series of posts.

New York:


Southern/NYC/Long Island. Nice fact is that it’s the northernmost major city/region in the US with a humid subtropical climate.


New York City by 320-ROC, on Flickr

Montauk Point Light, Long Island, New York by James Robertson, on Flickr



Northern NY/Adirondacks/Thousand Islands. Borders Canada, especially along the St. Lawrence River.

&quot; ADIRONDACK MOUNTAIN, NEW YORK STATE &quot; by POEM PIXEL, on Flickr

A Study in Contrast by G. Lamar, on Flickr


Western New York/ Buffalo/ Niagara Falls. Borders Canada again on a land brigde between Lake Ontario and Erie.



Niagara - The American Falls by Tduane Parker, on Flickr
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Del's lemonade on a summer day in Colt State Park is like a step back in time. Yes, very much under the radar.



It's still pretty New Englandy in southern RI as well but you're apt to see more visitors from NY along HWY 1 as well as second homes.
Plus, it gets more Italian and less Portuguese the more south you go. South Kingston during the summer is like a Jersey Shore Lite. And “coffee” gets that much closer to “kwafee”. But it’s still coming from a Dunkin, a Honey Dew, or a Cumbie’s (which is most likely selling Dunkin or Honey Dew).

Alex Bornstein does a great job nailing the RI accent for her Lois Griffin voice acting: mostly a Boston accent, but with certain New York traits here and there. “Coffee” is a big giveaway whether someone is from RI or from Mass.
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Plus, it gets more Italian and less Portuguese the more south you go. South Kingston during the summer is like a Jersey Shore Lite. And “coffee” gets that much closer to “kwafee”. But it’s still coming from a Dunkin, a Honey Dew, or a Cumbie’s (which is most likely selling Dunkin or Honey Dew).

Alex Bornstein does a great job nailing the RI accent for her Lois Griffin voice acting: mostly a Boston accent, but with certain New York traits here and there. “Coffee” is a big giveaway whether someone is from RI or from Mass.
lol, yeah, RI has a quirky accent. My ex who had a supah wicked pissah Boston accent that even her own family picked on her about even thought it was peculiar. For such a small state, it's very distinct.
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The add to muertecaza's post, AZ is almost always broken up as Southern Arizona / Northern Arizona.

WEST:
Here's the western border along the Colorado River:


EAST:
Here's the eastern border in the White Mountains:


NORTH:
Near the Utah border, outside of Page, Arizona:


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Near the Mexico border, Bisbee, Arizona
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Which is a completely inaccurate description of Pennsylvania.

While it’s true that Philly and Pittsburgh are by far the two largest cities, and much of the state is heavily forested rural land, the “Alabama” description is really inaccurate. If anything, the Greater Pittsburgh region is rather Alabama-like, more so than other parts of PA that are not Philly/SE PA. Outside of Allegheny County (Pittsburgh), southwestern PA is pretty damn red, socially conservative, with a strong Appalachian culture.
Yes. Very inaccurate.

The Lehigh Valley is a booming center-left area of small cities and notable universities. Lehigh County itself is very liberal. Northampton and Monroe less so but still center left. All of it burgeoning.

What I consider South Central PA (Lancaster, York, Adams counties) are fast growing. They feel a bit southern, a bit agricultural. Growing very quickly. Gorgeous rolling country side dotted with really pretty small towns, red brick buildings, and increasingly, neat exurban subdivisions. You couldn't find a blade of grass out of place in Lancaster County. Prosperous and growing.

Not far away, the Harrisburg metro is also growing very quickly (Cumberland and Dauphin Counties). Very suburban. Very educated. Dauphin County flipped blue in the last election. Cumberland will also turn blue in a matter of 2 or 3 cycles.
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What are the similarities and differences between each end of your state?

How similar or different are the east and west ends of Massachusetts, for example? How similar or different are the east and west ends of Ontario? How similar or different are the north and south ends of California? How similar or different are the east and west ends of South Dakota?

It seems that some places are considered by others to have many differences within a state, while other places are written off as the same from one end to the other. But how true is that? Is northern Idaho very similar to southern Idaho? Is eastern North Dakota very similar to western North Dakota? Is eastern Nova Scotia very similar to western Nova Scotia?

For Delaware, there are actually quite a few differences between the northern end and the southern end of the state. Most people would not realize that northern Delaware and southern Delaware are more different than they are the same. Here are some examples:

~ The northern end is rocky and hilly (Piedmont Plateau), and the southern end is sandy and flat (Atlantic Coastal Plain)
~ The northern end has trees like beech and sycamore, and the southern end has trees like pine
~ The northern end is largely liberal, and the southern end is largely conservative
~ The northern end likes Philadelphia sports teams, and the southern end like Baltimore sports teams (Washington sports teams much less so)
~ Stone and brick were common building materials in early times at the northern end, and wood was the common building material at the southern end
~ The northern end is developed, more urban, and industrial, and the southern end is more rural and agricultural
~ Common agricultural crops in the northern end (where there is agriculture left) include hay and mushrooms, and common agricultural crops in the southern end include corn, soybeans, and melons


Here are some similarities:
~ Holly trees grow in both the rocky woods in the north and the swamps and marshes in the south
~ Very similar accents
~ Affinity for University of Delaware football
~ The state is largely centrist; there are liberal Republicans in the north, and conservative Democrats in the south
~ Most of the state has historical ties to the Delaware River/Delaware Bay (only the southwest corner is connected to the Chesapeake)
Crescent City CA (far rainforest northwest) and El Centro (far desert southeast) have nothing in common, except perhaps a shared suspicion of state government in far away Sacramento.
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I’ve lived in many states so I’ll try to do them all in a series of posts.

New York:


Southern/NYC/Long Island. Nice fact is that it’s the northernmost major city/region in the US with a humid subtropical climate.


New York City by 320-ROC, on Flickr

Montauk Point Light, Long Island, New York by James Robertson, on Flickr



Northern NY/Adirondacks/Thousand Islands. Borders Canada, especially along the St. Lawrence River.

&quot; ADIRONDACK MOUNTAIN, NEW YORK STATE &quot; by POEM PIXEL, on Flickr

A Study in Contrast by G. Lamar, on Flickr


Western New York/ Buffalo/ Niagara Falls. Borders Canada again on a land brigde between Lake Ontario and Erie.



Niagara - The American Falls by Tduane Parker, on Flickr
I don't want to quibble, but I wouldn't call any part of NY "humid subtropical". Humid, yes. Subtropical no, even southern Long Island. Although the offshore Gulf stream and maritime influence do moderate the climate compared to other parts of the state. Maybe you could grow a palm in the Hamptons, but it would die in winter if not protected. Or at least sulk unhappily.
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Plus, it gets more Italian and less Portuguese the more south you go. South Kingston during the summer is like a Jersey Shore Lite. And “coffee” gets that much closer to “kwafee”. But it’s still coming from a Dunkin, a Honey Dew, or a Cumbie’s (which is most likely selling Dunkin or Honey Dew).

Alex Bornstein does a great job nailing the RI accent for her Lois Griffin voice acting: mostly a Boston accent, but with certain New York traits here and there. “Coffee” is a big giveaway whether someone is from RI or from Mass.
My New England family has the "Bob" test--up in NH it's "Bawb" and down in RI it's "Bwab." Within MA it depends on which side of the Charles they happen to live.

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Crescent City CA (far rainforest northwest) and El Centro (far desert southeast) have nothing in common, except perhaps a shared suspicion of state government in far away Sacramento.
Crescent City was wiped out by four tsunami waves generated by the Alaskan Good Friday Earthquake in 1964, and so it is denuded and charmless. They don't even have many street trees in the rebuilt lowlands.

Far Northern California, where I thankfully just moved from, is economically depressed, hard-right, and monotonously white. Southern California, where I thankfully just moved to, is economically vibrant, center-left, and multiracial/multi-ethnic. The North State is volcanoes and wolves; Southern California is avocadoes and waves.
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And then there's the seldom visited desert of far northeastern California: https://goo.gl/maps/oUmUwxLeLWQ47G59A - the only corner of California I haven't been to.
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