SAN ANTONIO | Urban Core Development Thread - Page 232

sakyle04 · #**4621** Posted **May 12, 2016, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame

This isn't related to anything relevant on the forum, but I thought I'd share this ridiculous article from the business journal:

Do they own a map? They know the Pearl is downtown, right?

To be fair, the office is decidedly NOT downtown or at the Pearl.

And though their hypothetical employee base would like to live at the Pearl, the (troubling) summation of the article was that, although PWC locates downtown everywhere they go, San Antonio's downtown is not an attractive hub for their business because it is not the hub for any other relevant business.

Downtown will eventually get there...but this is an article about another company choosing a suburban presence in San Antonio.

Keep-SA-Lame · #**4622** Posted **May 12, 2016, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by sakyle04

To be fair, the office is decidedly NOT downtown or at the Pearl.

And though their hypothetical employee base would like to live at the Pearl, the (troubling) summation of the article was that, although PWC locates downtown everywhere they go, San Antonio's downtown is not an attractive hub for their business because it is not the hub for any other relevant business.

Downtown will eventually get there...but this is an article about another company choosing a suburban presence in San Antonio.

I get your point, but meanwhile BBVA is choosing to move from the Concord (where PWC is moving) to the Weston Center:

http://www.expressnews.com/real-esta...wn-7462064.php

sirkingwilliam · #**4623** Posted **May 12, 2016, 7:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame

This isn't related to anything relevant on the forum, but I thought I'd share this ridiculous article from the business journal:

Do they own a map? They know the Pearl is downtown, right?

The Pearl is in Tobin Hill, which is in Midtown.

Downtown is downtown.

So, the piece is right. They didn't choose a building in downtown.

Keep-SA-Lame · #**4624** Posted **May 12, 2016, 8:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by sirkingwilliam

The Pearl is in Tobin Hill, which is in Midtown.

Downtown is downtown.

So, the piece is right. They didn't choose a building in downtown.

You missed the point. PWC rejected downtown, claiming that being near the Pearl was an important factor in their location making process. They ended up choosing a location that is much much farther from the Pearl than downtown is. No one is claiming that the Pearl is downtown, I was just trying to point out that if being close to the Pearl was actually that important to them they would be in the Weston Center instead of out at the Concord.

sirkingwilliam · #**4625** Posted **May 13, 2016, 1:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame

You missed the point. PWC rejected downtown, claiming that being near the Pearl was an important factor in their location making process. They ended up choosing a location that is much much farther from the Pearl than downtown is. No one is claiming that the Pearl is downtown, I was just trying to point out that if being close to the Pearl was actually that important to them they would be in the Weston Center instead of out at the Concord.

I won't argue any of that, but you did say the Pearl was downtown. Just read the quote. I was simply responding to that.

kornbread · #**4626** Posted **May 13, 2016, 1:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame

You missed the point. PWC rejected downtown, claiming that being near the Pearl was an important factor in their location making process. They ended up choosing a location that is much much farther from the Pearl than downtown is. No one is claiming that the Pearl is downtown, I was just trying to point out that if being close to the Pearl was actually that important to them they would be in the Weston Center instead of out at the Concord.

I understand what you're saying in terms of actual distance, but when we visit and we don't have plans to do anything downtown we usually stay in the area by Concord and it is pretty easy and quick to get to the Pearl area.

They also have the neighborhood between there and North Star. I don't know about it's reputation or values, but they can actually buy instead of rent if they move there. The Pearl area needs more options to buy instead of rent.

Keep-SA-Lame · #**4627** Posted **May 13, 2016, 1:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by sirkingwilliam

I won't argue any of that, but you did say the Pearl was downtown. Just read the quote. I was simply responding to that.

Fair point, I typoed, I should have said "next to downtown".

Spoiler · #**4628** Posted **May 13, 2016, 4:29 PM**

Ahhh, I love petty squabbles over semantics. The Pearl may not be Downtown, but it's downtown.

jaga185 · #**4629** Posted **May 13, 2016, 5:28 PM**

It's not downtown proper, but I do consider it downtown. But when i'm describing it, and I say I'm going somewhere, there is a distinction. If i'm going to the Pearl, it's the Pearl, not downtown. But it is downtown ... ... this just sounds confusing but there it is. haha

aggie2008 · #**4630** Posted **May 14, 2016, 8:32 PM**

Not that I'm advocating for people to break in and climb all over vacant properties. But this is pretty cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ll5oDZMNOo

I see that the listing moved over to Avison Young. Anyone have any details about any of the 6+ acres of downtown properties for sale that they've listed? Too bad I don't have tons of money to buy and fix the building up. With more of that terrible 70s facade falling off you can see more and more detail. I hope it's not bought and demolished.

Spoiler · #**4631** Posted **May 24, 2016, 5:05 AM**

"A mixed-use development is in the works for the historic six-building Scobey complex on the near West Side."

http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-est...ey-7940107.php

SAtown · #**4632** Posted **May 25, 2016, 5:53 PM**

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Fireoutofclay · #**4633** Posted **May 25, 2016, 7:30 PM**

San Antonio considers changes to urban core housing incentive policy
By Richard Webner, Staff Writer Updated 11:25 am
mysanantonio.com
Wednesday, May 25, 2016
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-est...ng-7944836.php

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The policy — which offers low-interest loans, waivers of city fees and property tax relief for new housing in the urban core —would shrink its geographic area to about 5.4 square miles including downtown, the near West Side, the near East Side, The Pearl area and a large part of Southtown. It currently spans 36 square miles centered on downtown but identifies the innermost neighborhoods as “targeted growth areas” eligible for larger incentives.

aggie2008 · #**4634** Posted **May 26, 2016, 10:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fireoutofclay

San Antonio considers changes to urban core housing incentive policy
By Richard Webner, Staff Writer Updated 11:25 am
mysanantonio.com
Wednesday, May 25, 2016
http://www.mysanantonio.com/real-est...ng-7944836.php

I wish we could crowdfund and buy it! In other news, USAA announced today it was bringing 100 more employees downtown, this time the focus will be IT. They also announced they are opening a 100 person office in downtown Austin for a design shop.

Keep-SA-Lame · #**4635** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 4:46 PM**

http://www.expressnews.com/real-esta...ng-7961589.php

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The Cavender auto family and developer Hixon Properties bought 2.3 acres aroundthe downtown Broadway corridor through a partnership, bringing the group’s land holdings in the up-and-coming area to a total of 8.1 acres.

The partners bought several parcels of land last week through subsidiaries they control, according to county property records: one cluster totaling about an acre along Broadway between Brooklyn and 8th streets, and the other 1.3 acres around the intersection of Avenue B and 9th St. With the new properties, they now own the bulk of four blocks along Broadway.

Hixon is the group that built River House (on Roy Smith Street).

whatdoyouwantandwhy · #**4636** Posted **Jun 3, 2016, 10:20 PM**

Great! More mediocre development on Broadway!

BTW, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Travelers hotel building being gutted. I'm not sure whats going on there, but I think it may be repurposed for apartments.

Spoiler · #**4637** Posted **Jun 4, 2016, 12:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatdoyouwantandwhy

Great! More mediocre development on Broadway!

BTW, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Travelers hotel building being gutted. I'm not sure whats going on there, but I think it may be repurposed for apartments.

http://www.expressnews.com/business/...il-5825683.php

PDG91 · #**4638** Posted **Jun 6, 2016, 7:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by whatdoyouwantandwhy

Great! More mediocre development on Broadway!

BTW, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Travelers hotel building being gutted. I'm not sure whats going on there, but I think it may be repurposed for apartments.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business...er-6491152.php

RyanfromTexas · #**4639** Posted **Jun 11, 2016, 4:00 PM**

This looks interesting!

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...own-clear.html

Can anyone get behind the paywall for the details?

Spoiler · #**4640** Posted **Jun 12, 2016, 12:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by RyanfromTexas

This looks interesting!

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...own-clear.html

Can anyone get behind the paywall for the details?

I don't subscribe, but I did register a free account and I can read this article. You should try that if you haven't.

It's about the property he's developing at 1811 S Alamo and getting it rezoned for infill development, which apparently means restaurant space where before it could only be offices.