Manitoba Highways

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

23 is supposed to be redone next year, at least from Minto to Baulder.

I travelled 23 going to the International Peace Gardens a couple of summers back and the area around the Swan Lake Reserve was the worst. That's east of the reconstruction area. Needless to say we didn't come back the same way, but it was an adventure with our travel trailer in tow.

[bomberjet]

Ontario has contracts awarded for bush clearing and gravel production for the first section Trans-Canada twinning from the Manitoba border.

Looks like they're actually gearing up to start road construction this coming summer.

Does anyone know what happened with the tenders Manitoba was going to advertise re: studies for twinning the Manitoba section?

[Dengler Avenue]

https://winnipegsun.com/news/news-ne...rder-to-kenora
“It’s considered a future capital project.”

[bomberjet]

Thanks for the link.

They were to complete a study this year of the 17km stretch of highway. But I didn't see or hear anything. Assuming that study was not tendered.

[Dengler Avenue]

I’m curious: In terms of actual construction, can the 17 km be covered with just 1 contract, or will they require 2 (or even 3)?

[bomberjet]

Could probably do it in one contract. They have a lot of reconstruction jobs out there that go on for many km's.

Depending upon what options are chosen. Maybe part of it is on the north side and part on the south. Could split it that way. There's also 3 major structures out there. So could break it up in many ways if they wanted to. Structures for sure are separate work.

[craner]

Would be so satisfying to get that last 17km twinned in one shot.

[Dengler Avenue]

As long as small contractors have the money to do all that in one go: When they’re able to participate as well, bid price is usually more competitive.
Meanwhile, around Dorion (east of Thunder Bay), there’s a contract (under construction right now) that only covers 8.5 km.

Edit: I found it - https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...234064&page=53 #1049

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Could probably do it in one contract. They have a lot of reconstruction jobs out there that go on for many km's.

Depending upon what options are chosen. Maybe part of it is on the north side and part on the south. Could split it that way. There's also 3 major structures out there. So could break it up in many ways if they wanted to. Structures for sure are separate work.

There was a tender out for the rehab of the existing three structures. Likely including standard improvements to get it caught up with the times and to match the new structures needed for a twinned highway.

[bomberjet]

That's good.

IIRC there were those 3 and then a twinning study and then another about grade widening near one of the structures.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Sounds to me like there should be, I mean if there's a plan, one contract for demolition, one for reconstruction and a final one to build the highway on top. For the whole thing.Who's in charge of this stuff?

[WildCake]

https://www.agcanada.com/daily/legis...ba-inland-port

Towards the end:

"The federal and Manitoba governments have also pledged $55 million for an
interchange and rail grade separation where the two Asia Pacific highway corridors, the Trans-Canada and Yellowhead highways, meet in Manitoba, about 15 km west of Portage la Prairie."

Is this bad reporting, or did someone slip that this roundabout will actually be an interchange? The rail overpass thing makes me think it is an upgrade since they never mentioned grade separating the rail line when they initially announced the roundabout.

[bomberjet]

From 2008... haha got me excited.

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

From 2008... haha got me excited.

Good grief sorry about that. Did not double check lol. It also said "provincial opposition Tories" right after. *facepalm*

[Dengler Avenue]

But not bad… I’m impressed that something from more than a decade ago is still floating on the internet~

[Spocket]

What a shame. We had everything we needed to get that thing built properly AND a rail overpass. And. We. Are. Building. A. Ducking. Roundabout. Without. A. Rail. Overpass. Now.

[thebasketballgeek]

The rail overpass I get the qualms for but I’m very-pro roundabout as there has been a general consensus that Roundabouts are safer and improve traffic flow.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Spocket

What a shame. We had everything we needed to get that thing built properly AND a rail overpass. And. We. Are. Building. A. Ducking. Roundabout. Without. A. Rail. Overpass. Now.

Is there any reason to believe that the roundabout will even get built? Part of me thinks that 10 years from now that intersection will look exactly how it does today.

Also, how did a gas station get built so close to the highway? Most roadside businesses are set back, while that Petrocan is right next to the road as though it was an urban street.

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by esquire

Also, how did a gas station get built so close to the highway? Most roadside businesses are set back, while that Petrocan is right next to the road as though it was an urban street.

Probably pre-dates the TCH being a divided highway.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by thebasketballgeek

The rail overpass I get the qualms for but I’m very-pro roundabout as there has been a general consensus that Roundabouts are safer and improve traffic flow.

Not on what should be a free-flowing road. To me it's just putting lipstick on a pig and we'll all wish we had just done it right the first time a year after the project is completed. This is a 'temporary' fix and will be with us far far too long. I don't like the proposal one bit, it typifies Manitoba half-assery