Edmonton Roads

[Airboy]

Now if they add an interchange at 28A and also at the 37 T we should have a decent road.

[canucklehead2]

I believe a study was done on this very thing a few years ago. It just needs funding. Still don't quite know if its to be approved with the bridge or not, although that would make sense...

http://www.transportation.alberta.ca...ontonarea.aspx

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by canucklehead2

I believe a study was done on this very thing a few years ago. It just needs funding. Still don't quite know if its to be approved with the bridge or not, although that would make sense...

http://www.transportation.alberta.ca...ontonarea.aspx

I remember seeing some geoteck studies being done on the section from 43 to 44. but not much else. Putting proper shoulders on that section would be nice.

[Hallsy's Toupee]

Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

^ I think there were also plans to build a new highway and river crossing between Edmonton and south of Fort Saskatchewan at some point.

http://www.transportation.alberta.ca...ercrossing.htm

Also note public meetings scheduled for next month.

[Hallsy's Toupee]

Fort Saskatchewan bridge twinning announcement:
https://www.alberta.ca/release.cfm?x...6C17DD56AD539E

[lubicon]

Good news, but unfortunately in the mean time Ft. Sask continues to add traffic lights and generally impede traffic through the rest of the city.

[Hallsy's Toupee]

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...campaign-issue

On Terwillegar Drive, drivers stick to the on-off ramps, zipping up and down from traffic light to traffic light.

That’s because on-off ramps are all Edmonton ever built of the mighty Terwillegar freeway – originally designed as a free-flow corridor to open southwest Edmonton and run straight past the airport.

Development went ahead, filling up the tableland between Whitemud Creek and the North Saskatchewan River, stretching farther south faster than anyone imagined. But Terwillegar freeway didn’t follow.

Now 30 years later — with annexation and more growth looming — the community has had enough. One collision on a major road can snarl traffic five kilometres away, and it does, regularly, forcing some residents to leave for appointments an hour early because they have no faith in the roads.

[TimB09]

Terwillegar is awful to drive on in the mornings. Something needs to be done about it, sooner rather than later as it'll just become more and more congested.

[Coldrsx]

I still recall open houses in the early 2000s for completion in 07/09 of a proper whitemud extension to AHD. LONG overdue.

[McBoo]

Not sure six lanes are needed if the 40th Ave interchange gets built.

Total CF SB off Whitemud as it stands, but not so bad after 40th.

Put the saved $13 million into Ellerslie Road.

[technomad]

Good to see some progress on this, but I really have to question their math..

FTA:


So 50 mil gets one interchange, and 6 lane-ing of ~1/3 of the distance from whitemud and henday, means about 150 mil to freeway the whole link. Roughly the same distance to get from henday to city limits. Approx 300 mil all in so far? But....

Building basic free-flow interchanges all along Terwillegar Drive would cost an estimated $500 million, said Meliefste, much more for a full build out to the airport.

200 mil is one hell of a contingency budget.. even for Edmonton

But even with that bloated budget, it's still a quarter of the cost of SE LRT which is projected to have similar usage numbers.

Notable difference is the freeway upgrades will actually improve travel times for the SW! Worthwhile project IMO

[adam-machiavelli]

Why not run an LRT branch from Southgate along Whitemud, then south along Terwilegar to Windermere?

[technomad]

Originally Posted by adam-machiavelli

Why not run an LRT branch from Southgate along Whitemud, then south along Terwilegar to Windermere?

because ETS has done such a great job with interlining so far?

really though, isn't the 2nd biggest failing of the at-grade university av crossing that it nixed any chance of running two lines further south?

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by technomad

because ETS has done such a great job with interlining so far?

really though, isn't the 2nd biggest failing of the at-grade university av crossing that it nixed any chance of running two lines further south?

Always thought 25ave would be better.

[adam-machiavelli]

Originally Posted by technomad

because ETS has done such a great job with interlining so far?

really though, isn't the 2nd biggest failing of the at-grade university av crossing that it nixed any chance of running two lines further south?

This would be a perfect opportunity to find funding to build an underpass for trains to run under University Avenue.

[s211]

Originally Posted by adam-machiavelli

This would be a perfect opportunity to find funding to build an underpass for trains to run under University Avenue.

Won't happen. There's an Edmonton bylaw against admitting failure, or even acknowledging that Edmonton's track record as it pertains to roads and bridges is no better than rank amateurism.

[technomad]

Originally Posted by adam-machiavelli

This would be a perfect opportunity to find funding to build an underpass for trains to run under University Avenue.

I'm not even sure that would be possible now? not without shutting the line down for a couple of years...

and it would probably cost more than full freeway on terwilligar from whitemud to henday. freeway that can also be used by buses

Originally Posted by s211

Won't happen. There's an Edmonton bylaw against admitting failure, or even acknowledging that Edmonton's track record as it pertains to roads and bridges is no better than rank amateurism.

pretty much.. the only way I could support the cost of fixing that mess now is if it was borne directly by those responsible for the at-grade decision in the first place

Originally Posted by Airboy

Always thought 25ave would be better.

do you mean 23av? I thought it could make a good part of ring line, with 170st, 137av and 50st rounding it out.

doubt that'll ever happen though.. at this point I can see teleportation hitting commercial use before Edmonton figures out transportation networks

[Hallsy's Toupee]

Can't unsee: Western Canadians find Trump's image in Yellowhead highway signs
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...112884?cmp=rss

[Hallsy's Toupee]

Syncing traffic lights: Tech fixes, enduring challenges
https://taprootedmonton.ca/stories/2...ng-challenges/

[McBoo]

91 Street NB from 23rd to 51st ave? Go the speed limit and you'll come to a halt at every light - and just as it's turning red too.

But speed - hey, makes you wonder if it's designed to tempt ...