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Old Posted May 21, 2020, 6:46 PM
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It does look like YVR (daily) and YHZ (5x week) are returning June 1. (A320 and CRJ-900).

AC have blocked the middle seats on the 320 and aisle seats on the regional jet based off the seat selection tool.
YYC still showing coming back in late June.

YQR now following YXE and suspended until next summer.

We'll see what actually comes back in July.

Flair still seem to be launching YOW in June...how though is a mystery!
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Old Posted May 22, 2020, 12:15 AM
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If anyone has always wanted to fly professional sports team class, air Canada is deploying it's Jetz aircraft to selected routes June 1st including Ottawa-Toronto:

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...nada-jetz.html
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Old Posted May 22, 2020, 12:17 AM
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If anyone has always wanted to fly professional sports team class, air Canada is deploying it's Jetz aircraft to selected routes June 1st including Ottawa-Toronto:

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...nada-jetz.html
Very cool. Do you get the Leafs or the Senators version of service departing from YOW?
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Old Posted May 22, 2020, 12:40 AM
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Pricing is not bad.

June 1
Reg flights Eco $324 Biz $515

Jetz flights $399

Cheaper on Thursday through the weekend
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Old Posted May 22, 2020, 1:37 AM
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Unfortunately, YOW-LHR has been pushed back until at least July 30th now.
Damn, it was there when I posted this morning, although I'm not surprised it's been pulled.

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It does look like YVR (daily) and YHZ (5x week) are returning June 1. (A320 and CRJ-900).

AC have blocked the middle seats on the 320 and aisle seats on the regional jet based off the seat selection tool.
When I looked at the A333 map for YOW-LHR, they only had the two window seats and both aisles in the middle section of the seats (so half of the 2-4-2 cross section). Does anyone know if travelling with a person in the same household if they allow you to book a seat immediately next to them?

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Flair still seem to be launching YOW in June...how though is a mystery!
This one would shock me. If anything I could *maybe* see YOW-YYZ launching since it's priced similarly to Via, offers morning departures (last I check Ottawa-Union leaves around noon, and Union-Ottawa gets in after 6pm, only one train each direction daily). But I still doubt the demand is there at the moment.
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Old Posted May 22, 2020, 12:31 PM
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Pricing is not bad.

June 1
Reg flights Eco $324 Biz $515

Jetz flights $399

Cheaper on Thursday through the weekend
That's pretty cool!

Also, June 1 is showing 9x YOW-YYZ including these 2 Jetz flights.

I don't know if this schedule will operate but the 18:00 departure is showing an A320 and the 20:00 departure is showing a A220 ! Everything earlier in the day is Sky Regional E75s.

AC must be tinkering with the schedules because Like RomanR27 mentioned, the YOW-LHR did show yesterday morning but was updated by late morning.
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Old Posted May 22, 2020, 1:10 PM
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Pricing is not bad.

June 1
Reg flights Eco $324 Biz $515

Jetz flights $399

Cheaper on Thursday through the weekend
I don't get how people look at a fare of $324 for a 1-hr flight and think, "Not bad!"
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Old Posted May 22, 2020, 4:16 PM
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I don't get how people look at a fare of $324 for a 1-hr flight and think, "Not bad!"
Random search from here in PHX:

PHX - YVR - AA- 21 August (3 hour flight): Econ - $115 Bus - $291

starts to approach "Not bad".
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Old Posted May 23, 2020, 12:54 AM
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That's pretty cool!

Also, June 1 is showing 9x YOW-YYZ including these 2 Jetz flights.

I don't know if this schedule will operate but the 18:00 departure is showing an A320 and the 20:00 departure is showing a A220 ! Everything earlier in the day is Sky Regional E75s.

AC must be tinkering with the schedules because Like RomanR27 mentioned, the YOW-LHR did show yesterday morning but was updated by late morning.
I have a hard time seeing them bringing YOW-YYZ up to 9x unless they’re cancelling YVR and later in the month YYC. AC were saying 6x a couple of days ago. Riding on Jetz would be cool though.

Today’s departure count was 9.
Saturday’s departure count: 7
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Old Posted May 24, 2020, 3:44 PM
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Old Posted May 25, 2020, 9:24 PM
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Old Posted May 26, 2020, 1:21 PM
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Flair is still scheduled to launch from YOW but their prices have completely shot through the roof.

YYZ: $319 ($59)
YHZ: $369 ($79)
YYC: $549 ($129)
YEG: $549 ($129)
YVR: $849 ($203)

Prices in brackets is what they were when they originally announced service.
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Old Posted May 26, 2020, 5:14 PM
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Porter's re-launch delayed another month to 29JUL20

https://www.skiesmag.com/press-relea...ce-to-july-29/
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Old Posted May 26, 2020, 6:57 PM
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Flair is still scheduled to launch from YOW but their prices have completely shot through the roof.

YYZ: $319 ($59)
YHZ: $369 ($79)
YYC: $549 ($129)
YEG: $549 ($129)
YVR: $849 ($203)

Prices in brackets is what they were when they originally announced service.
Sometimes an airline only displays full fare inventory shortly before they zero it out. Either that or they're now copying AC's & WS' current pricing structure. I guess we'll find out within the next few days.
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Old Posted May 27, 2020, 12:14 PM
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Ottawa airport borrows cash to stay afloat through travel slowdown
CEO says airport may need at least $100M over the next 3 years to make up lost revenue

Giacomo Panico · CBC News
Posted: May 27, 2020 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago




Mark Laroche loves nothing more than the sight of thousands of passengers arriving and departing from his airport.

But lately the president and CEO of the Ottawa International Airport has had to adjust to empty check-in counters and vacant luggage carousels, as the COVID-19 pandemic has pushed the average number of daily passengers down from 14,000 to less than 200.

"It's devastating. Basically all our revenue has cratered," said Laroche. "We've lost essentially 95 to 98 per cent of all our revenue, but our expenses remain."

Like most Canadian airports, the Ottawa airport generates revenue through parking, retail, food sales, taxi rides, and, most importantly, fees paid by airlines.

The latter has taken a big hit now that the airport is nowhere near pre-pandemic days, when it averaged 110 arriving flights per day, said Laroche.

"We still have to open the airport every day. It's a critical infrastructure. Even if there's only 10 aircraft that land each day, it still requires a minimum of people, firefighters, people at check-ins and passenger screenings. So we're going to incur significant deficits."

Laroche estimates the deficit for this year will reach $45 million with an additional $25 million deficit next year, meaning the airport will have to borrow anywhere from $100 million to $200 million over the next three years just to stay afloat.

"Typically, we only borrow for construction projects, not to cover operations," he said. "Operations have to be financially sustainable and this is not the case with a pandemic."

On the issue of construction, the airport and its partners have suspended all planned work.

That includes a new food court and adjacent hotel, but the airport is continuing with the installation of a new passenger security screening area, which may prove to be fortuitous given the need for physical distancing once crowds of passengers return.



Laroche fully acknowledges it will likely be years before the Ottawa airport experiences the same volume as it did in 2019.

"It's going to be a slow and long recovery. We don't think we'll recover [to 2019 levels] until 2024," he said.

Adding to the Ottawa International Airport Authority's uncertainty is how airlines and the industry as a whole will change in reaction to the pandemic, said Ben Crooks, an airport planner with the Ottawa-based aviation consulting firm HM Aero.

"The question we really need to be asking isn't 'When do we return to the pre-COVID normal?' but instead 'What does the new normal look like?'" said Crooks.

Crooks highlighted how everything from aircraft orders to route changes to physical distancing requirements — both on aircraft and inside airport terminals — contribute to an incredible amount of uncertainty for everyone.

"What the travelling public need to expect is a lot of change from what we're used to," said Crooks. "They'll need to be patient while the whole industry figures out what the new normal is."

That new normal for Ottawa flyers may mean far fewer destinations. The 13 passenger flights that departed Ottawa International Airport on Monday only served four destinations: Toronto, Iqaluit, Detroit and Philadelphia.



With files from Radio-Canada's Mathieu Nadon

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...oney-1.5585866
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Old Posted May 27, 2020, 2:55 PM
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Porter extends suspension

I read today Porter will be extending their suspension of service until the end of July
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Old Posted May 27, 2020, 3:36 PM
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I read today Porter will be extending their suspension of service until the end of July
Yep, see post #4353 above.

Today's departure count: 10
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Old Posted May 28, 2020, 1:30 PM
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Today's departure count: 9

AC June schedule updates out of YOW:
YYC - start delayed until July
YHZ - still showing 5x weekly for June - CR9 (ops X26)
YYZ - up to 8x, consisting of 2x mainline 223 (1x day 7), 4x Express E75 (3x day 7) & 2x Jetz 319
YUL - 2x consisting of 1x DH4 & 1x CR9
YVR - 1x 320

If this holds and Flair do indeed start YOW, June's pax numbers might hit 25,000.
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Old Posted May 29, 2020, 12:59 AM
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Friday’s departure count: 8
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Old Posted May 30, 2020, 1:10 AM
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Saturday’s departure count: 6! All flights are to YYZ.

With June’s small increases just around the corner, I doubt we’ll ever see only 6 departures and 1 destination in a single day again.
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