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Originally Posted by We vs us
This was the one with the really problematic car ramp, if I remember. Glad to see it's not entirely dead.
I agree, re: parking podiums. They're just awful. It's still interesting to me that land value here still doesn't quite incentivize builders to put some/all parking below grade, and maximize human-occupied square footage above ground.
Does anyone know if that's a code thing, or a value thing, or what?
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I researched this quandary a while back out of curiosity and the answer is quite simple. It can cost up to twice as much or even more to build an underground garage. Initial cost include excavating, shoring, and in some cases, dealing with a high water shed. I discounted the water table issue as a preventative due to the number of towers in NYC that line the Hudson and East Rivers. Secondly, the cost to exhaust. Well enclosed parking pedestals require high cost equipment to vent exhaust fumes, which is why we end up with 3rd and Shoal and the Independent's screening or in other cases, wide open gaps. Hotel Zsa Zsa Gabor once promised to put all their parking underground as a show of respect to the park and surrounding blocks. They dumped that idea I think partly due to the high water table, but mostly to lower the cost of the project in order to secure financing. At least their parking podium looks ok. It all comes down to how deep the developer's pockets are and how much they are willing to spend on aesthetics in the Austin market. The outsides have almost always taken a backseat to what's on the inside of the building. Regarding if its a code thing...I doubt it, but if there's eventually a code restricting parking podiums, I'd welcome it. Btw, Miami has its share of condos sitting on parking podiums with amenity floor separation between the living and the dead space ( parking). I welcome the break up between the two.