Amazon cancels plans for HQ2 in new york - Page 7

BrownTown · #**121** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Kenmore

conservatives are triggered ITT, lol

Ummm, WHAT?

This is one of the best possible things that could have happened for conservatives. They're saying AOC and her brand of Socialism would cripple the economy and here comes Amazon saying they're right and moving away from NYC just to avoid the liberal politicians there. I'm sure Trump is loving this shit. Plus it comes on the heel of California's ultra-liberal governor admitting defeat on high speed rail that conservatives have long said was a liberal boondoggle. It's be an AMAZING week for Conservatives. Probably one of the best weeks of Trump's presidency.

The North One · #**122** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:26 PM**

Amazon pulling out is of no fault of socialism, you're pushing a false narrative.

tjp · #**123** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by BrownTown

Ummm, WHAT?

This is one of the best possible things that could have happened for conservatives. They're saying AOC and her brand of Socialism would cripple the economy and here comes Amazon saying they're right and moving away from NYC just to avoid the liberal politicians there. I'm sure Trump is loving this shit. Plus it comes on the heel of California's ultra-liberal governor admitting defeat on high speed rail that conservatives have long said was a liberal boondoggle. It's be an AMAZING week for Conservatives. Probably one of the best weeks of Trump's presidency.

I'm hardly a socialist but you're going to hurt yourself stretching this far.

BrownTown · #**124** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by tjp

I'm hardly a socialist but you're going to hurt yourself stretching this far.

Amazon straight up blamed it on AOC and her ilk. Just because they didn't call her out by name doesn't mean it's not obvious. They blamed the politicians and then talked about how great the Mayor and Governor are. So we can sort of figure out from there who they took issues with based on a processes of elimination..

jtown,man · #**125** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by The North One

Amazon pulling out is of no fault of socialism, you're pushing a false narrative.

What’s the appropriate narrative then? Who were the main people protesting amazon?

The North One · #**126** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by jtown,man

What’s the appropriate narrative then? Who were the main people protesting amazon?

The appropriate narrative is Amazon made their own decisions they're responsible for as a company. They are not entitled to universal support and billions in public money.

JManc · #**127** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by BrownTown

Amazon straight up blamed it on AOC and her ilk. Just because they didn't call her out by name doesn't mean it's not obvious. They blamed the politicians and then talked about how great the Mayor and Governor are. So we can sort of figure out from there who they took issues with based on a processes of elimination..

AOC has little sway in NYS/ NYC matters but Amazon said "fuck it, I'm out" rather than forge ahead with political drama and will probably wind up across the river in NJ.

newyorkerx · #**128** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:46 PM**

Amazon isn't pulling out of NYC. They say that they will not look for a new location and instead will focus on expanding their 17 existing tech hubs. Ironically, this means that NYC will still see a big increase in Amazon jobs since NYC is already one of their 17 tech hubs. Amazon has already signed leases on the west side of midtown that commits it to expanding their workforce from 1,800 to 3,800. For all we know Bezos will go ahead and put the rest of the 20,000 jobs in NYC. My take on the corporate HQ decision making process is that wealthy tycoons only pick places where the CEO already has a residence. Bezos has an apartment on Central Park West and a gigantic townhouse in DC: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...ber/940615002/

iheartthed · #**129** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by BrownTown

Amazon straight up blamed it on AOC and her ilk. Just because they didn't call her out by name doesn't mean it's not obvious. They blamed the politicians and then talked about how great the Mayor and Governor are. So we can sort of figure out from there who they took issues with based on a processes of elimination..

I don't know why Amazon would blame her when she had zero legislative control over the issue, and she was only one of many local politicians that voiced concern. There were other politicians voicing concern that were far more consequential than AOC.

jtown,man · #**130** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartthed

I don't know why they would blame her when she had zero legislative control over the issue, and she was only one of many local politicians that voiced concern. There were other politicians voicing concern that were far more consequential than AOC.

True, but she is the most popular. And let’s be honest, the people protesting amazon weren’t republican tea party people, these were democrats and socialist or if some want to be hip, communist.

So the narrative can be what you want, I suppose. But at the end of the day if these people didn’t protest, would amazon still be moving into that location? I think the easy answer is...YES.

Obadno · #**131** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:50 PM**

Hahaha i told you clowns arizona would reign supreme in this battle

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phoenix to land some amazon jobs originally planned for new york

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amazon withdrew plans to open a 25,000-person office in new york, citing opposition from politicians there.

The seattle-based company said it does not plan to reopen the search for an "hq2." amazon will move forward with plans for new offices in northern virginia and nashville and will instead create those forecasted 25,000 jobs across its 17 north america tech hubs, including one in the valley.

IrishIllini · #**132** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:52 PM**

Lol, AOC has become such a boogie man. It has only elevated her platform.

jtown,man · #**133** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obadno

Hahaha i told you clowns arizona would reign supreme in this battle

Spreading the wealth and issues. I think we all won.

iheartthed · #**134** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by jtown,man

True, but she is the most popular. And let’s be honest, the people protesting amazon weren’t republican tea party people, these were democrats and socialist or if some want to be hip, communist.

So the narrative can be what you want, I suppose. But at the end of the day if these people didn’t protest, would amazon still be moving into that location? I think the easy answer is...YES.

She had as much power to veto it as I do, which is none. The politicians that had the power in this situation are the ones you all have never heard of.

The ATX · #**135** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:54 PM**

From an Amazon spokesman to Business Journals:

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Spokesman Adam Sedo confirmed in an email to the Business Journals that the 25,000 jobs planned for New York will be spread among these cities or metropolitan areas: Atlanta, Austin, Boston, California's Bay Area, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, Portland, San Diego, Toronto and Vancouver.

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...967&j=86683471

Not mentioning Nashville or NOVA is surprising.

jtown,man · #**136** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartthed

She had as much power to veto it as I do, which is none. The politicians that had the power in this situation are the ones you all have never heard of.

She has a platform. And the politicians were all democrats. Hence this doesn’t look good for them.

jtown,man · #**137** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

From an Amazon spokesman to Business Journals:

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...967&j=86683471

Not mentioning Nashville or NOVA is surprising.

No philadelphia? That’s a dang shame.

Pedestrian · #**138** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 9:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by JManc

AOC has little sway in NYS/ NYC matters but Amazon said "fuck it, I'm out" rather than forge ahead with political drama and will probably wind up across the river in NJ.

I have to wonder if they didn't mainly want to be in/near DC as I've suspected all along. I never understood why they thought they needed 3 "headquarters" and the more "headquarters" they have, the less the term means.

aaron38 · #**139** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sun Belt

Because $3 billion in tax incentives was estimated to produce $27.5 billion in tax revenue over 25 years.

Taxpayers don’t find government so politicians can throw our money around picking winners and losers.
If they honestly believe that a lower tax rate is the best way to attract businesses to their city, then they should offer the same lower tax rate to everyone.
Why is Amazon special?

Pedestrian · #**140** Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

Not mentioning Nashville or NOVA is surprising.

Why? The 17 cities referred to are "tech hubs". Nashville is an "operations center". Different things. Hard to say what is the difference between an "operations center" and a distribution warehouse. Since Amazon gave up on trying to avoid charging state sales taxes, they now have distribution facilities in almost every state so they can offer same-day delivery. I'm not sure what the average size of those are.