noirish Los Angeles

[Scott Charles]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

You can read about Hampton's history HERE

Been working my way through your linked website, ER, and found a number or restaurants I used to go to. Anybody else remember these places?


The caption says this was the Ships on Overland in Culver City. The Ships I went to was the one on Olympic and La Cienega.

Then there was Damiano Mr. Pizza on Fairfax, across the street from Canter's. I spent many a (drunken) night there. One of my girlfriends was a waitress there, and one of my best friends was a waiter.



And then there was Victoria Station, up where Universal Studios is (and was). Didn't they have some kind of funicular railway there? I was just a little kid the only time I went there...

[Mstimc]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

A group of friends enjoying a holiday weekend gathering in Laurel Canyon, October 1914.


ebay I believe the pics were sold. I haven't been able to find an active link.




ebay

Shenanigans! ...They look like a fun group of friends.








I am especially intrigued by this last snapshot.


ebay

Was there a water tower on, or near, Lookout Mountain or Lookout Mountain Inn? ... If there wasn't. . .then I'm stumped. (and this 'officially' becomes a mystery location )

Lorendoc might know. I believe he lives in this area.





Here is the seller's complete information.



I might have saved the Halloween 'costume' photo somewhere in my files. I'll have to look for it.

It's a shame the seller decided to sell the photographs separately.

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The formality of peoples' attire up through the 1930's intrigues me. I have a photo of my grandmother and great-aunts from the 1920's at Venice Beach fully decked out in fox furs--and it wasn't winter.

[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by Scott Charles

Been working my way through your linked website, ER, and found a number or restaurants I used to go to. Anybody else remember these places?


The caption says this was the Ships on Overland in Culver City. The Ships I went to was the one on Olympic and La Cienega.

I remember the Ships in Westwood, a bunch of us from the dorm went there(there may have been drinking involved prior to our visit).

[Otis Criblecoblis]

Originally Posted by Scott Charles

Been working my way through your linked website, ER, and found a number or restaurants I used to go to. Anybody else remember these places?


The caption says this was the Ships on Overland in Culver City. The Ships I went to was the one on Olympic and La Cienega.


And then there was Victoria Station, up where Universal Studios is (and was). Didn't they have some kind of funicular railway there? I was just a little kid the only time I went there...

I ate at both the Westwood and Culver City Ships, the Culver City location a number of times in its last years. They featured toasters at every table. The food was not all that good.

I went to that Victoria Station a good deal. It had the virtue of being affordable as a special-occasion place. The food was good! But the "funicular railway" was nothing more than an elevator operating along an incline.

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Earlier today I came across this handcut, amateur stereoview.

327 So. Alvarado St. Los Angeles....Oct. 4, 1914.


Ebay

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The house was lived in at that time by a George Starr White and his family. He was born in Connecticut in 1867. He lived at the address with his second wife Ada and daughters Marian Estelle and Ann Jane. His wife Ada apparently had mental problems and tried to kill one of the daughters to "make her an angel". Ada died in 1921 and Dr. White remarried in 1922.

His first wife, Hattie, who he married in New York, apparently tried to kill him. They divorced while still in New York.

He was a "physician" although it is not clear whether or not he was actually an MD. He was a proponent of "medical devices" such as things that supposedly cured ailments with methods like electric light. Google him and there is a picture. He died in Los Angeles in 1956 after having lived in Banning for a period of time. Altogether a colorful character, with lots of drama in his life. Google his name and read some very strange stuff.

[ethereal_reality]

Two attempted murders in one generation of family! ...Good undercover work, oldstuff.

What have the rest of you minions been doing today? ...*wink*

[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by oldstuff

His first wife, Hattie, who he married in New York, apparently tried to kill him. They divorced while still in New York.

I'm sure we'll all agree, that's reasonable grounds for divorce.

Originally Posted by oldstuff

He died in Los Angeles in 1956 after having lived in Banning for a period of time.

I'm sure the Banning thing took a few years off his life.

[ethereal_reality]

Mystery tanks.

"Original Kodak Transparency/Slide, E Olympic Blvd FOUR TRACKS 9th Hooper 1950s."


Ebay



I pinpointed the location for you. (I'm 99.9% sure this is correct)


Google_Earth






Now let's do a lower altitude flyby.


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re: The tanks

Unless I am mistaken, these two tanks are too far south to be the L.A. Gas tanks up by the old 102 Brewery.

The nearer one is definitely a gas-o-meter.



but I am confused by tank number 2) in the distance.... Is this a gas-o-meter as well? I ask because I don't see the lattice frame work.



Have we seen these two, particular, tanks before? . . .or have I just forgotten about them.

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I can't let this go without pointing out the excellent looking corner Mobil Gas Station.


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The taller buildings in the background still stand.

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[FredH]

E.R. - Taking a stab at it:


Since we are pretty close to the produce market here, I am guessing that the gas-o-meter in the foreground is this one, which BillinGlendaleCA says was at 7th and Alameda.


The Postman Always Rings Twice, MGM, 1946



The Postman Always Rings Twice, MGM, 1946


I'm thinking then, that the gas-o-meter in the background would be over by the Brew 102.

[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by FredH

E.R. - Taking a stab at it:


Since we are pretty close to the produce market here, I am guessing that the gas-o-meter in the foreground is this one, which BillinGlendaleCA says was at 7th and Alameda.


I'm thinking then, that the gas-o-meter in the background would be over by the Brew 102.

Looking at a 1952 aerial from Framefinder, the photo was taken at 8th and Alameda(you can even see the little building) looking northwest(Alameda runs north and south). The obvious gas-o-meter is at Alameda and 7th, but the far object is too far west to be the gas-o-meters by Brew 102(actually they were east of Brew 102). It's probably not a gas-o-meter but the Brunswich Drug Building in Little Tokyo.

I was mistaken, the presence of the gas station clearly shows up at Hooper/Long Beach and Olympic; I live in shame. I don't think the gas-o-meter is the Brunswick building either, but I still think it's not far east enough to be the gas-o-meters east of the Brew 102 complex.

ETA: I'm thinking it might be the LA Cold storage building. It's definitely a building, it's got stuff on top.

ETA2: Here's the relevant portion of the aerial(April 1960) from FrameFinder, the photo was taken just out of the frame at the left by the black mark at the left. There's a tall building just east of Alameda and north of 1st(currently LA Fire Engine 4) that might be a possibility...
via FrameFinder

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Scott Charles

Been working my way through your linked website, ER, and found a number or restaurants I used to go to. Anybody else remember these places?


The caption says this was the Ships on Overland in Culver City. The Ships I went to was the one on Olympic and La Cienega.

Then there was Damiano Mr. Pizza on Fairfax, across the street from Canter's. I spent many a (drunken) night there. One of my girlfriends was a waitress there, and one of my best friends was a waiter.



And then there was Victoria Station, up where Universal Studios is (and was). Didn't they have some kind of funicular railway there? I was just a little kid the only time I went there...

I've eaten at all three of these places! A couple of times each at Damiano's (but the last time I had food from there was a pizza delivery) and Victoria Station.

Over the years I ate several times at the Ship's on La Cienega (where a film titled Into the Night filmed scenes there) and less rarely at the Westwood location, where the L.A. Weekly always would spotlight "the worst waitress in Los Angeles" who worked there.

I worked in Culver City from 1977-83 and during all that time was a regular at that Ship's. (Diagonally across the street from M-G-M Studios.) I must've tried nearly everything on the menu. My favorite thing was the clam chowder they served on Friday's only...it wasn't New England or Manhattan, but some kind of mixture of the two with a Mexican tinge to it. I also loved the brisket of beef sandwich and the turkey burger. The toasters at all the tables and the counters were a noted feature of these locations. One of the waitresses told me they had a customer (they eventually discovered who it was) that would alter the toasters so the bread would pop out of them high into the air.

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis

I ate at both the Westwood and Culver City Ships, the Culver City location a number of times in its last years. They featured toasters at every table. The food was not all that good.

On your assertion that the "food was not all that good" I will say two things. 1.) The very first time I ate there I had something that I didn't like at all. So much so that I didn't care to go back, but one day did go with someone and really liked the food that time and we became regulars. I liked the food there. 2.) A friend and I went there in "it's last years" to have the clam chowder again and they didn't have it. We were told that the restaurants left were now managed individually using the name and so were only under the Ship's "umbrella" by name only, not necessarily what they served there. That happened with Hamburger Hamlet's that stayed on, too. They lost some of their signature foods they had previously served.

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis

I went to that Victoria Station a good deal. It had the virtue of being affordable as a special-occasion place. The food was good! But the "funicular railway" was nothing more than an elevator operating along an incline.

A short discussion of that incline from last September:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...on#post8318445

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Over the years I ate several times at the Ship's on La Cienega (where a film titled Into the Night filmed scenes there) ...

Link: Into the Night Los Angeles Filming Locations
https://www.itsfilmedthere.com/2011/03/into-night.html

This still of SHIP'S from the movie INTO THE NIGHT from the above link, isn't that interesting, but I thought a comment on the blog was interesting enough to post it.



Comment: I was in this film, in the photo you have of Ships Restaurant. That's me, the blond haired guy on the left, with the blond haired girl seen through the door. This crane shot was the last scene filmed after a full evening of scenes with Jeff (Goldblum) & Michelle (Pfeiffer). Almost 6am.
cheers... Guy Guden ( guyguden.blogspot.com )
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P.S.: It seems Photobucket is screwing around again. A lot of missing photos once more.
EXAMPLE:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=29964

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for your help FredH & BillinGlendale.

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA

Looking at a 1952 aerial from Framefinder, the photo was taken at 8th and Alameda(you can even see the little building) looking northwest(Alameda runs north and south). The obvious gas-o-meter is at Alameda and 7th, but the far object is too far west to be the gas-o-meters by Brew 102(actually they were east of Brew 102). It's probably not a gas-o-meter but the Brunswich Drug Building in Little Tokyo.

I was mistaken, the presence of the gas station clearly shows up at Hooper/Long Beach and Olympic; I live in shame. I don't think the gas-o-meter is the Brunswick building either, but I still think it's not far east enough to be the gas-o-meters east of the Brew 102 complex.

ETA: I'm thinking it might be the LA Cold storage building. It's definitely a building, it's got stuff on top.

ETA2: Here's the relevant portion of the aerial(April 1960) from FrameFinder, the photo was taken just out of the frame at the left by the black mark at the left. There's a tall building just east of Alameda and north of 1st(currently LA Fire Engine 4) that might be a possibility...
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you wrote:..."The photo was taken just out of the frame at the left by the black mark at the left." ...huh? I'm confused.




You're saying gas-o-meter #1 is this one, correct? [see below]

...ha ha
DETAIL / full photo HERE

But I don't see the gas station at Hooper/Long Beach and Olympic. Is it out-of-frame on the left? (is that what you were trying to say earlier?)


...and you think tank #2 isn't a tank at all, right?


DETAIL/ Complete photo HERE

hmmmm.....I thought it was round. .... Does it appear round to anyone else?

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[ethereal_reality]

I ran across this nifty image of the 'space-age' Thrifty sign.... (the one visible in the flood pics from a few days ago)


BALDWIN HILLS / found in one of my old files


Do any of you an-gel-leen-ohs who grew up in the area, remember the little bridge at the sign's legs.


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just wonderin'
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[ethereal_reality]

I saw this photograph and was intrigued by the wooden crenellations lining the 'balcony' above the front porch.



LAPL

Apparently, there is no longer a Joy St. in Vernon.




...but I found a JOY KNITS on E. 30th St.


GSV

Do you think E. 30th Street might have been Joy Street at one point in time?



(this is, what one would call, a Shot in the Dark)

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[Otis Criblecoblis]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

On your assertion that the "food was not all that good" I will say two things. 1.) The very first time I ate there I had something that I didn't like at all. So much so that I didn't care to go back, but one day did go with someone and really liked the food that time and we became regulars. I liked the food there. 2.) A friend and I went there in "it's last years" to have the clam chowder again and they didn't have it. We were told that the restaurants left were now managed individually using the name and so were only under the Ship's "umbrella" by name only, not necessarily what they served there. That happened with Hamburger Hamlet's that stayed on, too. They lost some of their signature foods they had previously served.

I greatly respect your defense of Ships! That's why I specified that I ate there in its last years: I naturally assumed that it was not representative of its historical quality.

Your mention of Hamburger Hamlet here is especially pertinent, because yes, HH's quality plummeted precipitously in its last few years. I still grieve over the loss of that excellent chain. Boy, do I miss their Tin Roof Sundae!

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

A short discussion of that incline from last September:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...on#post8318445

This is entirely congruent with my recollection. It was never really a funicular railway, which has two cars acting as counterweights to each other.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Mystery tanks.

"Original Kodak Transparency/Slide, E Olympic Blvd FOUR TRACKS 9th Hooper 1950s."


Ebay

The same seller has this slightly different angle on the same intersection.

Kodak Transparency MTA PACIFIC ELECTRIC No. 1804 WATTS LINE OLYMPIC BLVD 1950s


Ebay

I think the original location of "E Olympic Blvd FOUR TRACKS 9th Hooper 1950s" (circled below) is correct (as e_r and BillinGlendaleCA said), which means that it probably is the gasometer near Brew 102 in the background. The aerial below is from 1956.


mil.library.ucsb.edu

[FredH]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for your help FredH & BillinGlendale.



you wrote:..."The photo was taken just out of the frame at the left by the black mark at the left." ...huh? I'm confused.




You're saying gas-o-meter #1 is this one, correct? [see below]

...ha ha
DETAIL / full photo HERE

But I don't see the gas station at Hooper/Long Beach and Olympic. Is it out-of-frame on the left? (is that what you were trying to say earlier?)


...and you think tank #2 isn't a tank at all, right?


DETAIL/ Complete photo HERE

hmmmm.....I thought it was round. .... Does it appear round to anyone else?

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I'm going to stick with my original guess that #2 is a gas-o-meter near the 102 brewery. I don't think there was anything else that tall in the area.

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I saw this photograph and was intrigued by the wooden crenellations lining the 'balcony' above the front porch.



LAPL

Apparently, there is no longer a Joy St. in Vernon.


...but I found a JOY KNITS on E. 30th St.


Do you think E. 30th Street might have been Joy Street at one point in time?


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It's hard to tell if E. 30th was once Joy St., but I think you're pretty close to that interesting old home's location, e_r.

On the 1909 map below, A = Alameda Street, S = Santa Fe Avenue (where Vernon Avenue still jogs), and R = the Los Angeles River.



2006-0252b @ CA State Library

[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for your help FredH & BillinGlendale.



you wrote:..."The photo was taken just out of the frame at the left by the black mark at the left." ...huh? I'm confused.

Yup. I'll include the aerial for that section when I can access it(it's on a disk that's not on-line now).

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

You're saying gas-o-meter #1 is this one, correct? [see below]

...ha ha
DETAIL / full photo HERE

But I don't see the gas station at Hooper/Long Beach and Olympic. Is it out-of-frame on the left? (is that what you were trying to say earlier?)


...and you think tank #2 isn't a tank at all, right?


DETAIL/ Complete photo HERE

hmmmm.....I thought it was round. .... Does it appear round to anyone else?

.

Yes, that is the first tank. The second "tank" is too far to the west to be one of the one's near the river by Brew 102. The other reason I think it might be a building is that it seems to have a bunch of stuff on top(tanks usually only had one thing sticking out in the center).