Perimeter Highway | Winnipeg

[Biff]

Originally Posted by Glenn99

I saw 2 big rigs go through. They seemed to handle it no problem.

Good to know, thanks.

[Biff]

....and just a heads up, the Province will begin putting up barricades to close off access points to the south Perimeter Hwy starting this week. I noticed a pile of barricades at Dawson Rd on the eastern leg of the south Perimeter last night. Actual excavation work and construction of access roads where needed should happen next summer. This will be at all the lesser crossings where closing will be fairly simple.....but it is a start.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Biff

....and just a heads up, the Province will begin putting up barricades to close off access points to the south Perimeter Hwy starting this week. I noticed a pile of barricades at Dawson Rd on the eastern leg of the south Perimeter last night. Actual excavation work and construction of access roads where needed should happen next summer. This will be at all the lesser crossings where closing will be fairly simple.....but it is a start.

Good stuff. Are any of the uncontrolled access points going to remain directly accessible from the Perimeter?

[wave46]

Originally Posted by Biff

....and just a heads up, the Province will begin putting up barricades to close off access points to the south Perimeter Hwy starting this week. I noticed a pile of barricades at Dawson Rd on the eastern leg of the south Perimeter last night. Actual excavation work and construction of access roads where needed should happen next summer. This will be at all the lesser crossings where closing will be fairly simple.....but it is a start.

Good on the province. Let's keep the positive momentum going!

[Biff]

There will be some for the short term that will have to have access. As an example the whole S Perimeter east of 59 to 101E has no controlled access points so I imagine that for now they will only close Dawson. Murdock has a left turn lane which is Safer??? I feel they should also close Symington this round, but that would push all the traffic to Murdock or Plessis - which I feel is one of the un-safest intersection being on a corner with no turn lane.

[Dengler Avenue]

Wow the political will is finally there to bring the Perimeter one-step closer to free-flowing. This is good stuff.

[esquire]

I hope the province actually physically removes the disused left turn lanes and access points. The worst is when they leave them in and they magically reappear after a certain period of time... I vaguely recall the access points on the west Perimeter between the Assiniboine River and Sask Ave being closed, reopened and then closed again.

[Biff]

On another note they finally have all the ramps and loops open at 59N and the Perimeter.

[Jeff]

it would be nice if they had another cloverleaf shovel-ready somewhere in the province to keep the momentum going after 59 one is done with the rate they take to construct *sigh*

[bomberjet]

Hopefully once south Perimeter gets going, if ever, they basically roll one project into another. Have $50m in funding set aside every year for interchanges on the Perimeter. And do what you can with that money. It'll get lots done.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Jeff

it would be nice if they had another cloverleaf shovel-ready somewhere in the province to keep the momentum going after 59 one is done with the rate they take to construct *sigh*

St.Mary's or St. Annes at the Perimeter should be next on the list!

[Dengler Avenue]

Instead of cloverleaf though, you guys should also consider parclo-A4, diamond, or, if you wanna be fancy, even diverging diamond.

IMO cloverleaf (Or in general, completely free-flowing interchange) should only be reserved for highway-to-highway connections (i.e. 1/190 & 101). Some compromises include a diamond with either one big roundabout (like those in Europe) or 2 small ones (like NS 104/ NS 7, Antigonish Bypass).

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Instead of cloverleaf though, you guys should also consider parclo-A4, diamond, or, if you wanna be fancy, even diverging diamond.

IMO cloverleaf (Or in general, completely free-flowing interchange) should only be reserved for highway-to-highway connections (i.e. 1/190 & 101). Some compromises include a diamond with either one big roundabout (like those in Europe) or 2 small ones (like NS 104/ NS 7, Antigonish Bypass).

Cloverleaf is a Winnipeg/Manitoba term for interchange. Our highways are so outdated that cloverleaf interchanges are by far the most frequent grade separation and the most recognizable type of interchange, hence why you'll often hear the words used interchangeably (no pun intended). You see it on this forum but also more frequently in the comment section of news articles relating to highway upgrades or collisions

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

St.Mary's or St. Annes at the Perimeter should be next on the list!

In the grand scheme of things, hopefully Yellowhead and #1 and one day an actual grade separation for the exits at Brandon.. Having just spent two weeks driving around Nova Scotia, the MB highway system is pitiful!

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by Jeff

In the grand scheme of things, hopefully Yellowhead and #1 and one day an actual grade separation for the exits at Brandon.. Having just spent two weeks driving around Nova Scotia, the MB highway system is pitiful!

Well maybe it has to do with the fact Manitoba has 30% more people than Nova Scotia but 1100% more land area in which to connect via highways.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Instead of cloverleaf though, you guys should also consider parclo-A4, diamond, or, if you wanna be fancy, even diverging diamond.

IMO cloverleaf (Or in general, completely free-flowing interchange) should only be reserved for highway-to-highway connections (i.e. 1/190 & 101). Some compromises include a diamond with either one big roundabout (like those in Europe) or 2 small ones (like NS 104/ NS 7, Antigonish Bypass).

Ya they'll be diamonds or parclos mostly. Maybe some directional ramps at the highway connection.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

St.Mary's or St. Annes at the Perimeter should be next on the list!

St Mary's would likely be before St Anne's. It is much busier and St Anne's is much larger (not the actual grade separation for St Anne's) and more complicated with the rail line and access issues with Aimes Rd and Budd Rd.

[esquire]

St. Mary's and St. Anne's are glaring omissions on the Perimeter when it comes to interchanges, but wouldn't McGillivray be next since it was already "announced" (using the term loosely) not all that long ago?

[Biff]

The problem with McGillivray is the recent opposition to the access to the industries on the northern edge of Oak Bluff. When the grade separation was drawn up there wasn't the plan to close all access points to the Perimeter. Now the Province has decided to proceed with the closures, access to the small industrial park has become an issue. Doesn't impact the grade separation itself, it just makes it more expensive with all the new access road construction.

[bomberjet]

Wasn't part of the recent announcement to extend the service road along the west wide of 100 across the tracks in Oak Bluff northward. And formalize the dirt road that's there now.

I did some work a number of years ago and there was a plan to extend the service road. that would provide access to the industrial area from the north. Would have to exit 101 at Wilkes.

Or else take the new McGillivray interchange and access the industrial area from the west side. So drive around the south edge of town.

Just get'r done already!


Edit: The bold part.

Proposed work as part of this safety plan includes:
• affecting median openings and accesses in 24 locations from Fermor Avenue to Portage Avenue, wherever intersections are controlled with stop signs;
• opening the roundabout at PTH 2 and PTH 3;
• PTH 3/PTH 100 intersection improvements;
• service road improvements at PTH3/PTH100/Oakland Road;
• constructing a service road from Oakland Road to the Wilkes Avenue interchange;
• service road improvements to more safely connect Brady Road to the South Perimeter Highway;
• constructing a service road and railway crossing to connect Aimes Road and Melnick Road; and
• constructing left turn lanes at Symington Road.