[Moncton] Downtown Developments

[Ammn_guy]

Bessborough is one of the best neighborhood schools to walk to in Moncton, that location is great they should try and retain it.

Franklin crossing is ok option .. its not a long walk but if they do that I really think they should join the centennial park rd to Franklin crossing, to russ howard, to milner. It would rival morton for the street with the most names (6 if i am count correctly) and t it would join all the parks /rec areas together in a sort of parkway, which if done in the style of russ howard drive it would be a nice street.

So many blocked off streets in moncton due to the old rail lines, nimbys etc, causes a funneling affect to the main arteries. I find Mid- Mountain rd to west end.. is always a weird roundabout drive to get to.

Originally Posted by Scarface

I think there plan was to do the same as Ecole Ste Bernadette Since when the talks first started they had someone mesuring out the property. I think it would be really out of the way in the Franklin Crossing development. Also with the new housing planned in the Franklin Crosing Development I don't think there would be any space for a new school.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Ammn_guy

Bessborough is one of the best neighborhood schools to walk to in Moncton, that location is great they should try and retain it.

I don't live in the neighbourhood, but that would be my preferred option too. It would be the least disruptive choice.

Originally Posted by Ammn_guy

Franklin crossing is ok option .. its not a long walk but if they do that I really think they should join the centennial park rd to Franklin crossing, to russ howard, to milner. It would rival morton for the street with the most names (6 if i am count correctly) and t it would join all the parks /rec areas together in a sort of parkway, which if done in the style of russ howard drive it would be a nice street.

Actually if they joined up Centennial Park Drive to Franklin Crossing, it would be a straight shot from Main Street all the way out to the TCH! The name changes for the street along the way would be Mapleton/Purdy/Russ Howard/Grand Trunk/Centennial Park/Milner. They of course won't do this. It could cause increasing traffic congestion along roadways not intended to carry the load.

Originally Posted by Ammn_guy

So many blocked off streets in moncton due to the old rail lines, nimbys etc, causes a funneling affect to the main arteries. I find Mid- Mountain rd to west end.. is always a weird roundabout drive to get to.

Indeed. My own pet peeve is when they didn't connect Twin Oaks through to the casino in order to placate the enraged citizenry on one (unintended) cul de sac. By doing this, they denied Twin Oaks it's destiny of being a true neighbourhood collector street, with access right through to the TCH at the Mountain Road exit.

I don't think the boost to traffic would have been that bad if the connection had been made, and all it did was divert even more traffic onto the already congested Mountain Road.

[MonctonRad]

My Home Apparel is now open on Main Street.

[L'homard]

My own pet peeve is when they didn't connect Twin Oaks through to the casino in order to placate the enraged citizenry on one (unintended) cul de sac. By doing this, they denied Twin Oaks it's destiny of being a true neighbourhood collector street, with access right through to the TCH at the Mountain Road exit.

I don't think the boost to traffic would have been that bad if the connection had been made, and all it did was divert even more traffic onto the already congested Mountain Road.

So true. I was shocked at how easily the city caved after barely any kerfuffle from residents there.
As well, other neighbourhoods who want no through traffic on roads designed and built to do exactly that now have a precedent to point to.
Not a good decision.

[mctnguy]

I have to respectfully disagree.

I live on Twin Oaks, and not anywhere near the Casino (near the mid point of the Casino and Rennick), and we signed the petition to prevent Twin Oaks connecting to the Casino exit.

We already have problems with people driving way too fast down Twin Oaks
and I didn't want to have to worry about people leaving the casino after a few drinks, driving drunk down my street (with my kid outside playing) so they could have an easier way to access Berry Mills Rd.

I do wish they would get to connecting Twin Oaks to the traffic circle, though.

Originally Posted by L'homard

So true. I was shocked at how easily the city caved after barely any kerfuffle from residents there.
As well, other neighbourhoods who want no through traffic on roads designed and built to do exactly that now have a precedent to point to.
Not a good decision.

[MonctonRad]

You're certainly allowed to respectfully disagree.

Your point about people perhaps driving drunk down Twin Oaks from the Casino is a fair one, especially if the imbibers thought they could avoid the police by doing so. One would hope however that they wouldn't be weaving down the road during the daytime when children would be outside playing.

I've never been struck that Twin Oaks is overly busy traffic wise. Certainly Evergreen is far busier. Twin Oaks though is relatively wide (no doubt because the original assumption was that it was eventually going to connect through to Mountain Road). This width probably contributes to speeding. How fast do you think some cars travel?

The problem with not connecting Twin Oaks to Mountain Road (at the Casino) is that this just increases traffic on neighbouring connector streets to either Ryan or Mountain. The traffic doesn't disappear, it just gets displaced. It becomes someone else's problem. Having said this, your point of view is perfectly understandable.

I would imagine the Twin Oaks connection to the Ryan/Horsman traffic circle will occur at the same time the new north end community centre gets built - hopefully in the next 3-5 years.

Of course, this connection will increase traffic on the east end of Twin Oaks, which might ruffle the feathers of people living over there.

It's not a perfect world (unfortunately).

[mctnguy]

I totally agree, and in a perfect world, it would be nice to have Twin Oaks fully connected from the traffic circle to the Casino. And if it were a Mall or an apartment building at the end of the street, and not a casino, I would be onboard with the connection.

Sorry to derail the topic at hand.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

You're certainly allowed to respectfully disagree.

[L'homard]

mctnguy if I lived there I would be on your side.
So I "get" it. Just don't agree.

[Ammn_guy]

noticed a sign on keatings tobacco today, moving to 840 main on feb 1st. i think thats the new building, that was just built.

[Scarface]

The building that is suposed to be replacing Centenial Restaurant on St George Blvd. seems to be up, and has most if the all the outside work done. It seems like it might be a 4 Unit Comercial building but does not seem to have any access to the lower level inside, or out.


Also like to put it out there. Renovation have been made to the public housing on Lewis street. The colours chosen for the siding looks horendus. Midnight Blue, Lemon Yelow, and some off Wine Red. There might be other colours down the strip but I only seen 3 of the first houses.

[PEI highway guy]

Any news on the Hilton hotel/ Tannery buildings. That project has gotten quiet again. Seems to me somebody said in Sep or so that an announcement was coming soon and it is now basically December and all is quiet. Any rumblings as to what is going on?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by PEI highway guy

Any news on the Hilton hotel/ Tannery buildings. That project has gotten quiet again. Seems to me somebody said in Sep or so that an announcement was coming soon and it is now basically December and all is quiet. Any rumblings as to what is going on?

There was an announcement, just not a big flashy one with politicians and a shovel.

Site prep to begin in the spring. Hotel to open in early 2019.

[MonctonRad]

According to the CBC, Lyle Hogan's gas station on St. George Street will be replaced by a 32 unit apartment building.

Demolition is imminent.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

According to the CBC, Lyle Hogan's gas station on St. George Street will be replaced by a 32 unit apartment building.

Demolition is imminent.

That explains the moving of the vehicles, and what seems to be work to get the site preped for the removing of the tanks, and pumps.

Also the removal of the sign.

Are they planing on building up, or did whom ever buy an extra lot, or two to build a low rise apartment building.

[tmacdougall]

Can someone provide an address? Can't picture where it is.

Originally Posted by Scarface

That explains the moving of the vehicles, and what seems to be work to get the site preped for the removing of the tanks, and pumps.

Also the removal of the sign.

Are they planing on building up, or did whom ever buy an extra lot, or two to build a low rise apartment building.

[Good2go]

Originally Posted by tmacdougall

Can someone provide an address? Can't picture where it is.

St. George and Weldon.

[David_99]

Originally Posted by tmacdougall

Can someone provide an address? Can't picture where it is.

[Monctoncore]

Originally Posted by David_99

Wonderful to see a new development on this corner, just hope they don’t cover it in the horrible plastic siding we see constantly around town.

[riverviewer]

Originally Posted by Monctoncore

Wonderful to see a new development on this corner, just hope they don’t cover it in the horrible plastic siding we see constantly around town.

I wonder what contaminants lie beneath the surface. A lot of these old gas stations are abandoned because the environmental clean up costs exceed the value of the land.

[drewber]

Lyle's was the last true independent gas station in Metro Moncton. Sad to see them go but not surprising with Wilson's down the road offering a 3.5 cents a litre discount when using cash or debit. Hopefully they make quick work if they want anything done before the perma snow is down.