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Razqal · #**281** Posted **Oct 10, 2004, 10:20 AM**

jesus, i still can't get over how utterly polluted shanghai is. those pics are taken at near ground level and it's even very grey and smoggy down there. it's kewl they might built this building finally, but i dont think it will have much of a view in all that haze.

dchen · #**282** Posted **Oct 10, 2004, 10:57 AM**

Razqal, the haze is mainly due to weather reason, not pollution. Shanghai has many foggy days in a year. But that does not mean Shanghai has no pollution. Chinese cities are quite polluted as compared with Western cities. Shanghai has relatively 'good' or 'better than average' air quality by Chinese standards :-(

By the way, the same cameraunion thread also says the next phase construction, I guess the main underground structure, will start on Nov 2 this year.

JACKinBeantown · #**283** Posted **Oct 10, 2004, 3:18 PM**

Plus, those photos are taken with a digital camera, which for some reason always seem to add that hazy quality to their photos. But if you open the photo in Photoshop and run Auto Levels over it you'll see a dramatic reduction in the perceived amount of haze.

STERNyc · #**284** Posted **Oct 10, 2004, 3:41 PM**

This building will never finish, or start for that matter.

Matace · #**285** Posted **Oct 10, 2004, 4:08 PM**

^Why the lack of faith man? This building has been u/c for some time now.

Razqal · #**286** Posted **Oct 10, 2004, 11:27 PM**

Well I've seen a zillion pics of different cities around the world in this forum and I have YET to see a pic of Shanghai on a clear sunny day with blue skies. I don't think using a digital camera has anything to do with it nor weather factors. London and other European cities have alot of cloudy, foggy weather but i've seen pics of them on sunny clear days. Even Beijing is also pretty polluted but I've seen pics of Beijing with clear blue skies. People I know who've been or lived in Shanghai all tell me the air quality there is awful due to the traffic and industrial plants.

dchen · #**287** Posted **Oct 11, 2004, 1:03 AM**

These photos were taken on Oct 5 at Jinmao... it was a sunny day with blue clear sky.

http://image2.sina.com.cn/dy/c/2004-10-05/U661P1T1D4497656F21DT20041005193349.jpg

http://image2.sina.com.cn/dy/c/2004-10-05/U661P1T1D4497406F21DT20041005171435.jpg

http://image2.sina.com.cn/dy/c/2004-10-05/U661P1T1D4497501F21DT20041005174507.jpg

http://image2.sina.com.cn/dy/c/2004-10-05/U661P1T1D4497499F21DT20041005174335.jpg

http://img.tom.com/news/2004100611440820844_0.jpg

http://sh.eastday.com/eastday/shnews/fenleixinwen/qita/images/00153496

Inspire · #**288** Posted **Oct 11, 2004, 1:38 AM**

SWFC is becoming a joke, what a shame.

Razqal · #**289** Posted **Oct 11, 2004, 2:21 AM**

wooooow...blue skies!! thanks, dchen! i'm a believer.

dchen · #**290** Posted **Oct 11, 2004, 3:00 PM**

Good news!

It is confirmed that main construction will start on Nov 2. The main contractor is CSCEC (China State Construction Engineering Corp.). The total value of the contract is about REM 3.9B (about US$470M). Complete date is Nov 2007.

See this link (in Chinese):
http://www.sasac.gov.cn/196ggqy/196ggqy_1844.htm

Aboveday · #**291** Posted **Oct 11, 2004, 3:11 PM**

So ,will they continue the process of the "hole"(25m more) or stop it at -18m?If the foundation is not completed ,the main contractor cannot start their job.

ztopp · #**292** Posted **Oct 12, 2004, 12:59 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by dchen

Good news!

It is confirmed that main construction will start on Nov 2. The main contractor is CSCEC (China State Construction Engineering Corp.). The total value of the contract is about REM 3.9B (about US$470M). Complete date is Nov 2007.

See this link (in Chinese):
http://www.sasac.gov.cn/196ggqy/196ggqy_1844.htm

At last....a confirmed date of construction and completion date for SWFC.

Chad · #**293** Posted **Oct 12, 2004, 10:58 AM**

It's in the news here as well

avcellvs · #**294** Posted **Oct 20, 2004, 6:42 PM**

October 20th 2004.

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/545/54574/54574_1098254506.jpg

Fabb · #**295** Posted **Oct 20, 2004, 8:38 PM**

Still only one crane...

teddybear · #**296** Posted **Oct 21, 2004, 1:46 AM**

Right, but that shows there are construction activities...

Razqal · #**297** Posted **Oct 21, 2004, 2:29 AM**

Maybe they're building a port-o-potty.

JACKinBeantown · #**298** Posted **Oct 22, 2004, 2:14 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by JACKinNYC

Plus, those photos are taken with a digital camera, which for some reason always seem to add that hazy quality to their photos. But if you open the photo in Photoshop and run Auto Levels over it you'll see a dramatic reduction in the perceived amount of haze.

I can't post the photo, but I took one of them and ran "auto levels" and it did reduce the amount of gray haze drastically. If anyone can do the same and post it you'll see what I mean.

avcellvs
http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/u...1097370599.jpg

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/u...1097370520.jpg

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/u...1097370378.jpg

avcellvs · #**299** Posted **Oct 24, 2004, 9:00 PM**

Well since the crane has been installed, there has not been any evidence of activity. The october 20th camerunion pic shows the same scene as one week ago. Tuesday I'll go there and tell you if the effective construction phase has begun.

Those willing to join me while I stay in Shanghai (october 26th to november 15th) can write to :

a v c e l l v s @ y a h o o . f r (remove all spaces).

I'll be happy to meet all the shanghaiese forumers willing to.

Though I don't intend to spend much time on the net during my stay, I'll try to make some updates with hot news.

I'll be back with tons of photos

mewonlottery · #**300** Posted **Oct 24, 2004, 10:24 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspire

SWFC is becoming a joke, what a shame.

someone just can't stop shitting...hahah~