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Passions run high at combative City Council Amazon hearing
Pols had several criticisms about plan to bring tech giant to NYC


December 12, 2018


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The City Council had harsh criticisms for Amazon and the Economic Development Corporation during a contentious hearing on Wednesday about the tech giant’s move to Long Island City.

One of the strongest points of contention was a benefit that the plastics company Plaxall will receive for one of its sites near the proposed campus, according to Crain’s. Plaxall owns two sites that would be part of the Amazon campus, and a third property that it owns between 46th Avenue and 46th Road is also part of the headquarters plan for unclear reasons.

Plaxall would like to build either a roughly 500,000-square-foot residential building or an 800,000-square-foot office tower on the site, and it would not have to go through the ULURP process as part of the current development plan, as The Real Deal previously reported. Jimmy Van Bramer, the council member who represents Long Island City, told EDC president James Patchett he should be “ashamed” for that part of the deal.

“We’re not ashamed of this,” Patchett replied, according to Crain’s. “We’re proud to be here.”
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New York decided to use a state-controlled process to bring Amazon to Long Island City, which has sparked much frustration on the City Council. It has been used for past projects including Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn and Times Square’s redevelopment starting in the 1990s.

Amazon representatives defended the plan at the hearing as the best way for the company to build its project quickly and start hiring workers.
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How do y'all think anyone with a right mind thinks cities like New York function as they do?

Politics!

It an ontological imperative in a 21st Century world; and the bad needs to be taken along with the good.

This kid Ocasio-Cortez...and she is one: uneducated, unenlightened, entitled, arrogant, and just a tad on the flaky side...is in for a rather bumpy ride in her virgin crusade as a lawmaker.
     
     
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A look at the city's portion of the state bid (there were bids for Long Island, and Westchester as well).







This bit got some complaints from curbed...

https://ny.curbed.com/2018/12/11/181...ogo-amazon-hq2




























Some sites pitched on the west side...










Long Island City (where Amazon ultimately ended up)















The city offered two areas of develoment, though Amazon chose to consolidate on a smaller area...














Some Brooklyn possibilities...






Of course, the WTC...















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If only this Amazon deal occurred earlier, around the time that Fox declined 2 WTC, maybe it could of been there.

Scrolling through the proposal packet, tons of options. The choice was clear from the beginning.

And even if it wasn't LIC, tons of other areas could of hosted it, but in the end, LIC was the best choice. At least from a cost perspective and somewhat better cost of living wise for the EE's (Manhattan vs Queens for example).

The nice thing about LIC is that any further expansion, down the line, would be much easier from a development perspective (buying a parcel, developing it). Down the line of course, 10...20 years in the future. Versus doing the same in Midtown for example.

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If only this Amazon deal occurred earlier, around the time that Fox declined 2 WTC, maybe it could of been there.

I think it would have gone the same way. Amazon seems to want it's own space, which at the WTC or the Hudson Yards it wouldn't have. And LIC was always the cheaper option. Even before we had any idea the city would be one of the finalists, LIC was said to be the frontrunner in New York.



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Now just imagine this x10 with Sunnyside Yard. The potential is overwhelming.
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We could still end up with some type of interconnected campus, at least a portion of it. I'm ready to see how it plays out. It's planned to eventually reach 6 msf of office space, with the option of up to 8 msf. That's towers 1, 2, and 3 of the WTC, for a single tenant.

Also, the people Amazon are bringing in the next couple of years are only replacing the people who are already there, who in turn are moving to Manhattan and joining the commute Downtown. So anyone complaining about more people on the train aren't talking about Amazon employees.
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LIC HQ2 website...well needed source of info.

https://www.hq2.nyc


Amazon Headquarters in Long Island City, Queens


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After a yearlong competition, Amazon selected New York City over 236 other cities as the site of a new headquarters. Beginning in 2019, Long Island City will be the company’s northeast home. Amazon will initially create 25,000 good-paying jobs over 10 years, with a plan to grow to 40,000 over 15 years.
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In 2019, Amazon will occupy office space at One Court Square, beginning its New York City expansion with approximately 700 new jobs in 2019 and growing to nearly 3,000 in 2020.

In 2020, following public approvals, Amazon will begin to construct its waterfront campus around Anable Basin on public sites and private parcels that have long been owned by Plaxall, a local family industrial business.
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Amazon, the City and the State will each initially commit $5M ($15M total) in 2020 to launch new programs to train underrepresented segments of the workforce.

A local nonprofit will open a 10,000 square-foot onsite employment and training center on the Amazon campus, to actively train and recruit in the LIC community.

The City will expand its successful JobsPlus program to Queensbridge Houses, which assists with job searching and placement and provides financial incentives for employment. This $10M expansion will train and place 1,500 Queensbridge residents in jobs over the next ten years.

The City will launch a new Queens-focused program to train NYCHA residents for careers in IT, cybersecurity, and web development. This $3-5 million commitment will serve 200-300 residents.
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This is the largest single effort to attract new jobs in New York State history. It is projected to deliver over $186 billion in economic impact to New York over the next 25 years, including over $14B in tax returns to the State and over $13.5B to the City.
This project represents a 9 to 1 return on the State and City’s incentives, which is the highest return on investment we’ve ever had for an economic development project.

The increased tax revenue generated by Amazon’s new headquarters will be used to upgrade infrastructure, improve transportation, invest in our schools, and deliver services to New Yorkers.

The State will commit up to $1.7B in Excelsior Tax Credits and capital grants, based on Amazon’s delivery of job and investment commitments. Amazon will only receive incentives if/when they achieve their job and investment goals.

The City is providing no discretionary subsidies.

Under the City’s preexisting as-of-right programs, Amazon is eligible for a partial property tax abatement through ICAP and an annual credit of $3,000 for 12 years per eligible employee under REAP, a program available to all companies to encourage job growth outside of Manhattan.

REAP benefits for Amazon’s initial 25,000-job expansion are projected at $897 million through 2038, and ICAP will abate approximately $386 million in property taxes.
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The State will work in collaboration with the City to undertake an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) and General Project Plan (GPP) for the project. This process has historically been used by the State and City to advance significant joint development projects. The EIS and GPP processes typically take 12-18 months and involve a series of public hearings and meetings:

A scoping hearing to ensure public participation in defining the scope of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS).

Three ESD Board meetings at which the public can comment on the record.

An additional hearing on the GPP and DEIS, with opportunity for public comment.

A City Planning Commission meeting where the Commission will consider the project and vote on a formal recommendation to the ESD Board.
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Some EDC testimony befor the city council...
















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Some of Amazon's testimony before the council today...

























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I hope that Amazon builds something dramatic. Their Seattle HQ buildings are mundane.
     
     
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Their Seattle HQ buildings are mundane.
What, their spheres?

     
     
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2018, 1:38 AM
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SHoP Architects had been working on some residential buildings a while ago for the area. I wonder if they will be brought in to work on the Amazon development, or at least the master plan.
But I can see them bringing in someone like Ingel's BIG to design the campus.



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REVEALED: SHoP Architects’ Long Island City Waterfront Development

NOVEMBER 23, 2015
BY ONDEL HYLTON


Here’s our first peek at Simon Baron Development, Quadrum Global and CRE Development’s three-tower Long Island City development slated to rise alongside the former Paragon Paint factory building at 45-40 Vernon Boulevard. Permits for the first tower were filed with the DOB back in June and detail a 28-story, 296-unit rental tower designed by SHoP Architects. The tower is part of a larger master plan that will revamp the eastern extents of the Anable Basin inlet with a waterfront esplanade and bring an additional 14-story residential tower at 45-24 Vernon Boulevard and an eight story building along 45th Road.

As per the renderings provided by SHoP, the design of the two lower towers is consistent with many of the firm’s recent New York City projects and feature copper-clad, orderly bases yielding to playful facades of angled projecting windows.













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Here are some basic renders of the Anable Basin development that was going through ULURP before Amazon...


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Sothebyʼs eyes Amazon relocation business

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December 14, 2018


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Regional branches of Sotheby’s International Realty are teaming up to launch a new website dedicated to serving those relocating for Amazon.

The companies include Daniel Gale Sotheby’s International Realty that covers Queens and parts of Long Island, Sotheby’s International Realty operated by NRT that covers Manhattan, and TTR Sotheby’s International Realty that serves Washington D.C. and parts of Virginia. They will be collaborating to create www.MyHQHomes.com.
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The website will target current and future employees of Amazon that might be considering a move to either of the recently announced HQ2 locations of Crystal City, Virginia and Long Island City, New York as well as Seattle area residents that may choose to sell or lease their local home.

A full web launch is planned for January 2019.

“Our goal is to provide an informational resource and personalized services through our exclusive network for Global Real Estate Advisors whom are resident experts in these target neighborhoods,” said Dean Jones, president and CEO of Realogics Sotheby’s International Realty.

Jones said many of his brokers have already worked with existing Amazon employees and new recruits that relocated to the Seattle area over the past several years.

Based on this experience, he predicts that most of the relocating employees surrounding HQ2 will initially prefer to rent before committing to a purchase and likewise, some local clients may decide to lease an existing home locally before committing to a more permanent move on the East Coast.
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Went over the new Kosciuszko Bridge for the first time last night, and the view of the Long Island City and Manhattan skyline was awesome.
Can't wait to see what Amazon does, and what further effect it brings to the LIC skyline.



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Amazon in Brooklyn: Why the Bid Didn’t Quite Measure Up
The borough offered an array of sites, including the former Watchtower HQ and Dock 72, but cost and logistics likely got in the way






By NORMAN ODER
December 11, 2018


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Did Brooklyn ever really have a chance at winning the new Amazon campus?

The Brooklyn Tech Triangle may have many assets, including residential space, creative companies, food, and educational institutions, but a comparison of the bids presented to the Seattle-based behemoth looking to house at least 25,000 workers shows that Long Island City, the company’s choice, had some distinct advantages.

Not only did Long Island City offer space above a subway station for the first tranche of workers, that building, at One Court Square, was closer to a move-in than two sites proposed in Brooklyn: the Panorama complex (formerly the Watchtower headquarters) at the edge of Dumbo and Fulton Ferry, and Dock 72 at the Brooklyn Navy Yard.

One Court Square was presented as cheaper than Panoroma and competitive with Dock 72. Also, future office space—Amazon seeks a total of 4 million sq. ft.—would cost less in Long Island City, with more opportunity for contiguous sites.
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Brooklyn < LIC

While Brooklyn offered a cost advantage over both Midtown West and Lower Manhattan, the other two city neighborhoods in the package, Long Island City still offered logistical and price advantages. For example, One Court Square, long known for its anchor tenant Citigroup, was said to offer “net illustrative rent” of $46 per sq. ft.*

Amazon would get 12 months of free rent on a 20-year lease and, yes, NYC EDC also presented an image of that building topped by the Amazon logo.

In Brooklyn, Dock 72 at the Navy Yard, under construction by Boston Properties/Rudin and scheduled for occupancy next year, was presented as renting for $43 per sq. ft. But that 610,000-sq.-ft.space, despite offering an outdoor half basketball court and four outdoor terraces, is far from a subway, relying on shuttles and a future ferry. It too offered 12 months of free rent.

The Dumbo-adjacent Panorama site, 25-30 Columbia Heights, is under conversion and “offers a prominent signage opportunity atop a Brooklyn icon,” but also lacks direct subway access. The rent was said to be $59 per sq. ft., with six months free on a 20-year lease for the 772,000-sq.-ft. complex.
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Beyond that, for the further buildout, several Long Island City sites—including some (but not all) that Amazon chose—were presented as costing between $24 and $49 per sq. ft., a relatively wide range.

Brooklyn didn’t quite measure up. While five potential expansion sites at the Brooklyn Navy Yard were said to cost $43 per sq. ft., the total available space (2.6 million square feet) would have been insufficient for Amazon, even combined with Dock 72.

Ditto for the eight potential expansion sites in Dumbo, offering 2.54 million sq. ft. and renting for at least $54 per sq. ft. (Note: before Amazon decided to split its purported HQ2 into two sites, including Crystal City, Va., the sites contesting for HQ2 were presenting a potential 8 million sq. ft.)
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Downtown Brooklyn, offering much transit and adjacent residential space, offered more than 9 million sq. ft. in 14 buildings, with rents said to be between $49 and $59 per sq. ft. Notably, the bid indicated a willingness to ensure that two planned buildings, 565 Fulton St. and 625 Fulton St., would include office space, with “land use action required.”

Moreover, the bid discloses an ambitious plan for construction at, and near, the Pacific Park project, all associated with the address 590 Atlantic Ave.
. That’s currently home to retail outlets P.C. Richard & Son and Modell’s, at the intersection of Flatbush and Fourth avenues.
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The four prospective towers offered to Amazon included one site at the northeast flank of Barclays Center, long known as B4 of Atlantic Yards/Pacific Park, which is expected to start construction next year and house 810 apartments. It too would have required “land use action.”

Another would be the 1.14 million-sq.-ft. tower (or towers) planned for the P.C. Richard/Modell’s parcel, long known as Site 5 of the Atlantic Terminal Urban Renewal Area. While that site has been approved for office space, the developers aim to augment it by shifting the bulk of the never-built tower approved for the Barclays Center plaza across the street, which also would require “land use action.”

Finally, the bid discloses ambitious plans to build towers, apparently already permitted by current zoning, over the Atlantic Center mall. The bid describes two sites, one with 990,000 sq. ft. and the other, with 1.84 million sq. ft. (which likely means two towers). Such towers were once to be designed by Frank Gehry, the original Atlantic Yards architect.

While Brooklyn’s business and civic leaders appeared to put a lot of effort and creativity into the bid, and Brooklyn’s tech community touted its abundance of talent, the Long Island City bid tended to offer cheaper and more readily available space for the early and later phases of the project.
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Dec. 17, 2018


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Cornell Tech has become one of the most visible symbols of New York City’s booming technology sector — and a major selling point in the bid to persuade Amazon to build a headquarters in Queens.

Cornell Tech’s dean and vice provost, Daniel Huttenlocher, sits on Amazon’s board of directors, and Amazon executives visited the campus as part of the city’s efforts to woo the company. Ferries provide direct service between the Cornell campus and Long Island City, Queens, where the company will build the headquarters.
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The school’s graduates and researchers have parlayed their ideas, skills and ambition into more than 50 start-up companies that have raised a total of $60 million from investors and created about 200 jobs. One start-up, Nanit, sells a smart baby monitor online and in stores, while three others have been acquired by companies, including one by Adobe.

About 600 of the school’s graduates — including 360 who remain in the city — have been hired by Google, Bloomberg, Microsoft and other technology companies.

“It really sends a message to the broader tech industry and also the whole world that New York City is serious about tech,” said Julie Samuels, executive director of Tech: NYC, a nonprofit industry group.

Citywide, the technology industry employs more than 320,000 people, according to Tech: NYC. Many work in what Ms. Samuels calls an expanding “ecosystem” of more than 7,000 small start-up companies. New York’s ascendance as a technology hub was reaffirmed by Google’s announcement on Monday that it would create a $1 billion campus in the West Village that would allow the company to double the size of its 7,000 employee work force in the city.
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Cornell Tech’s 340 students are enrolled in seven programs, from electrical and computer engineering to law, technology and entrepreneurship. By 2037, it is expected to have at least 1,800 students. It started in borrowed space at the Google building in Chelsea and moved last year to the first three buildings on its new campus.



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They mention the ferries but fail to mention that there's a bridge that connects Roosevelt Island with LIC/Astoria about a mile north of the proposed campus.
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They mention the ferries but fail to mention that there's a bridge that connects Roosevelt Island with LIC/Astoria about a mile north of the proposed campus.
Probably because the ferry is a more direct connection to LIC. I still say Amazon should expand or create its own ferry service. The demand is there, and will only increase.
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