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Old Posted Jun 28, 2007, 6:35 PM
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The Hypertall

Should there be a new category made for the tallest of the tall?

Right now we have the "supertall" which is roughly 300m/1000ft.

Should there be a new "hypertall" category? Should it start at, say 600m/2000ft?

It would be an "elite" club for now, just the Burj Dubai and the Guangzhou TV tower would qualify. But towers like the Chicago Spire, the Russia Tower and the tower at Incheon would also be in this elite soon enough, if built.

Or maybe the "hypertall" category could start at 500m/1500ft. Taipei 101 would be the first in the club.
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no, not 500 meters, and not for buildings that stick a spike ontop to increase their height. 101 is a short piece of poop with this little nub ontop... to me Sears looks taller. Make it 600M, and make it clear that it has to be that te building must have atleast its average floorplate at that height to qualify.
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I've been saying this for a while now. I think 500m+ should be a new category.
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I agree, but a better name would be megatall.
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IMHO

Skyscraper - 150m
Supertall Skyscraper - 300m
Megatall Skyscraper - 600m
Hypertall Skyscraper - 1200m

I'm sure we'll have one those Hypertall's sometime in the first half of the 21st Century.

Here in Canada, I think we'll just work our way towards getting a supertall for now...
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Old Posted Jun 30, 2007, 9:11 AM
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101 is a short piece of poop with this little nub ontop... to me Sears looks taller.
what's difference between TP101's top and the empire state building's top then? everything above the 80th floor in the ESB is essentially useless apart from holding antennas. it was added to overtake the chrysler building in height.

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what's difference between TP101's top and the empire state building's top then? everything above the 80th floor in the ESB is essentially useless apart from holding antennas. it was added to overtake the chrysler building in height.
And the Chrysler Building's full height, in turn, was added to by a spire created simply to overtake 40 Wall Street.
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IMHO

Skyscraper - 150m
Supertall Skyscraper - 300m
Megatall Skyscraper - 600m
Hypertall Skyscraper - 1200m

I'm sure we'll have one those Hypertall's sometime in the first half of the 21st Century.

Here in Canada, I think we'll just work our way towards getting a supertall for now...
I thought about somthing similar, I COMPLETELY agree with you.
Al Burj could become the worlds first Hypertall.
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I call as "hypertall" each structure taller than 1200 ft ( 365.25 metres) as this value seems to be something as an inofficial height limit for many countries ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ures_in_Europe )
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what's difference between TP101's top and the empire state building's top then? everything above the 80th floor in the ESB is essentially useless apart from holding antennas
Astoundingly incorrect.
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[QUOTE=Boris550;2926612]
Skyscraper - 150m
Supertall Skyscraper - 300m
Megatall Skyscraper - 600m
Hypertall Skyscraper - 1200m
[QUOTE]

I like it. Makes sense in a way to double the height of each catagory. It begs the question: 2400m = ?.
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[QUOTE=Charles Hatfield;2928506][QUOTE=Boris550;2926612]
Skyscraper - 150m
Supertall Skyscraper - 300m
Megatall Skyscraper - 600m
Hypertall Skyscraper - 1200m
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I like it. Makes sense in a way to double the height of each catagory. It begs the question: 2400m = ?.
I think 1200 should be ultra tall, allowing 2400 to be hyper, or lower it to something like this...

Skyscraper - 150m
Supertall Skyscraper - 300m
Megatall Skyscraper - 600m
Ultratall Skyscraper - 900m
Hypertall Skyscraper - 1200m
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Astoundingly incorrect.
you need to astoundingly tell why.
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Skyscraper - 150m
Supertall Skyscraper - 300m
Megatall Skyscraper - 600m
Ultratall Skyscraper - 900m
Hypertall Skyscraper - 1200m

Beyond that, we use exponents!

Millitall/Mytall - 1500m or 2400m
Billitall/Bytall - 1800m or 4800m
Trillitall/Trytall - 2100m or 9600m
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Then we can top it off with a new category called "space elevator"
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The space elevator ( if built) will be ultimate tall structure. I hope we see that in our lifetime.
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Should there be a new category made for the tallest of the tall?

Right now we have the "supertall" which is roughly 300m/1000ft.

Should there be a new "hypertall" category? Should it start at, say 600m/2000ft?

It would be an "elite" club for now, just the Burj Dubai and the Guangzhou TV tower would qualify. But towers like the Chicago Spire, the Russia Tower and the tower at Incheon would also be in this elite soon enough, if built.

Or maybe the "hypertall" category could start at 500m/1500ft. Taipei 101 would be the first in the club.
I strongly believe there should be a new category - some of these new proposals are getting so tall it's ludicrous. We need something to distinguish between skyscrapers which are simply very tall (300m-600m) and those which are extremely tall (600m+).

Furthermore, I think this should be the roof height, as some have suggested. Spires reaching over 600m shouldn't qualify.
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Skyscraper - 150m
Supertall Skyscraper - 300m
Megatall Skyscraper - 600m
Ultratall Skyscraper - 900m
Hypertall Skyscraper - 1200m

Lol... this reminds me of the scoring system in Unreal Tournament -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal_...t_2004#Scoring

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Why don't we just call them 1x/2x/3x supertalls (300m,600m,900m respectively) instead of continually having to keep making up all these bozo words with undescript adjectives?
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you need to astoundingly tell why.
well for one thing there are typical floorplates all the way up 86th which is the top of the masonry structure. thats also where the outdoor observation deck. that's also already taller than the tip of Chrysler tower's spire. so the giant mast wasn't created to just beat out the previous holder. in that mast there are individual floors, i don't know whats in them but they are big enough to support the public cause on number 102 at around 1250ft is the indoor observation deck. and you know that gets a crowd
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