Homicide stats in Canadian Cities - Page 239

vid · #**4761** Posted **Jan 25, 2020, 4:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

The US' incarceration rate is insane for a first world democracy, but let's not get carried away here... (it's not like China is counting the million or so Uyghurs in re-education camps towards its prison population)

Even if you add a million people to China's 1.5 million prisoners, and make it 2.5 million, that's just a little more than the 2.3 million imprisoned in the US. But the US has one fifth of China's population, so even counting them, it has five times as many prisoners per capita.

Spocket · #**4762** Posted **Jan 25, 2020, 10:18 AM**

Well sure but it's not necessarily a reflection of the crime rate. When the government is the biggest criminal gang in the country and it makes the rules, you can't be sure of anything regarding crime. But even with that in mind, petty crime in China is much lower than in the US. You never feel any danger in this country. Not when walking around, anyway. If anything, China has more mid-level crime than anything. Lots of scams for which a lot of people should be in prison.

memph · #**4763** Posted **Jan 26, 2020, 12:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by vid

The US has more people in prison that North Korea, China, and Russia combined and our own prisons in Canada are at 130% capacity.

Recidivism rates would be lower is our correctional system actually corrected.

I suspect that the amount of people in jail for very serious crimes (murder and rape mainly) is a fairly small portion of the total so making sentences longer depending on the circumstances, like if the person doesn't seem rehabilatable, wouldn't have much of an impact.

I think sentences for minor crimes don't need to be increased though, theft, substance abuse related crimes, getting into a bar fight... the focus there should definitely be rehabilitation.

vid · #**4764** Posted **Jan 26, 2020, 1:52 AM**

You know what's really fucked up? People being held while awaiting trial (they haven't been found guilty or sentenced and might very well be innocent) are kept in the same wing as the murderers and rapists in Thunder Bay's district jail.

You know, the one that has monthly riots, occasional fires and like, 10 deaths over the past 15 years?

If anything, that should be enough deterrence to keep people here from committing crimes.

SKvKREW · #**4765** Posted **Jan 26, 2020, 4:19 AM**

Toronto at 6 for the year. Shooting in Scarborough has left one dead and two others wounded, one critical.

kwoldtimer · #**4766** Posted **Jan 26, 2020, 2:37 PM**

Waterloo Region had its first of the year on Saturday evening - a 48 year old man was found dead on a trail in the south end of Kitchener. A 77 year old man has been arrested. Police say the two men "were known to each other".

Spocket · #**4767** Posted **Jan 26, 2020, 7:58 PM**

I used to be all about throwing them all in prison and losing the key. I've since come to accept that that's just not the best method and doesn't make for a better society. Whatever we're doing, although it could be better, is working in comparison to harsher systems and I don't think longer sentences is the answer.

Acajack · #**4768** Posted **Jan 26, 2020, 11:22 PM**

A first for Gatineau yesterday. Sounds like a domestic murder-suicide.

Not too far from my place actually.

HomeInMyShoes · #**4769** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 2:28 PM**

Arrests made after 2 separate Regina homicides

That will put us at three already. Because everything is just groovy here.

kwoldtimer · #**4770** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 2:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Waterloo Region had its first of the year on Saturday evening - a 48 year old man was found dead on a trail in the south end of Kitchener. A 77 year old man has been arrested. Police say the two men "were known to each other".

As in father and son.

TorontoDrew · #**4771** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 2:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

Arrests made after 2 separate Regina homicides

That will put us at three already. Because everything is just groovy here.

Wow, I think Toronto is only at three now.

HomeInMyShoes · #**4772** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 3:17 PM**

Social and economic conditions are going to make it a very ugly year in Regina.

From 2014 to 2019 Regina had: 5 - 9 - 8 - 9 - 8 - 9

2020 is looking to dwarf those numbers.

vid · #**4773** Posted **Jan 27, 2020, 11:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

Social and economic conditions are going to make it a very ugly year in Regina.

From 2014 to 2019 Regina had: 5 - 9 - 8 - 9 - 8 - 9

2020 is looking to dwarf those numbers.

Does your mayor refer to the high homicide rate as "journalistic smears to make our city look bad", like ours does?

From 2014 to 2019 Thunder Bay had: 11 - 3 - 8 - 7 - 8 - 7, that's only 4 fewer than Regina but less than half the population. We're already up to 2 this year! The city's strategy to deal with poverty so far has been to eliminate everything that helps the poor. I'll let you know how that works out!

Coldrsx · #**4774** Posted **Jan 28, 2020, 3:29 AM**

Edmonton with two suspicious deaths, but prior to that were at zero for the year....

Acajack · #**4775** Posted **Jan 28, 2020, 2:22 PM**

I don't think it's been covered much by the anglo media but the Quebec City murder has led to a lot of grumbling here about the work of the Canada Parole Board.

As I mentioned this guy was convicted of murdering his spouse (domestic partner anyway) barely 15 years ago, and was let out on a conditional release.

His victim this time was a young woman in her early 20s who worked in a massage parlour. He had been a client at the massage parlour before but he was deemed too aggressive and was banned from the premises. Against the advice of her friends, the woman agreed to meet him at a hotel, in exchange for 2000 dollars. She ended up dead.

Written down in his conditions of liberation is an acknowledgement that he has difficulty in his relationships with women, and a recommendation that he should seek to "meet with women to assuage his sexual impulses only".

So basically the parole board commissioners wrote down in his file that he should carouse with prostitutes.

HomeInMyShoes · #**4776** Posted **Jan 28, 2020, 3:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by vid

Does your mayor refer to the high homicide rate as "journalistic smears to make our city look bad", like ours does?

From 2014 to 2019 Thunder Bay had: 11 - 3 - 8 - 7 - 8 - 7, that's only 4 fewer than Regina but less than half the population. We're already up to 2 this year! The city's strategy to deal with poverty so far has been to eliminate everything that helps the poor. I'll let you know how that works out!

No. Not smear per se, but there's little done to address the problem. We build stadiums and invest in SWAT capabilities to address the problems. The increase in gun-related offences should be an alarm signal.

Darkoshvilli · #**4777** Posted **Jan 28, 2020, 3:50 PM**

He is violent with women so we suggest he meet with more women? What the fuck am I reading?

Acajack · #**4778** Posted **Jan 28, 2020, 3:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Darkoshvilli

He is violent with women so we suggest he meet with more women? What the fuck am I reading?

From the reporter (and transcribed by the journalist):

« En audience, votre ALC a souligné qu’une stratégie a été développée afin que vous puissiez rencontrer des femmes, mais seulement afin de répondre à vos besoins sexuels.

« Votre équipe de gestion de cas vous a permis de faire ces rencontres, moyennant que vous fassiez preuve de transparence. »

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/j...a-bergerie.php

Darkoshvilli · #**4779** Posted **Jan 28, 2020, 4:04 PM**

Thats crazy. They should have thrown him a porno mag in his cell and be done with it. Screw your sexual needs.

HomeInMyShoes · #**4780** Posted **Jan 28, 2020, 4:07 PM**

Apparently, there were three homicides on the weekend.
link to cbc.ca news story

So 4.