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Old Posted Jan 17, 2008, 8:01 PM
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You can ask the same question for the planned vertical graveyard.
the one from Santos?




off topic, but looking for the pic above, I noticed the vertical graveyard ALREADY exists in Santos, but in a smaller scale. The new project is the 30 storeys graveyard tower. That other section, which is 12 storeys tall, already exists since 1983!!

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I think the Santos vertical cemitery owners and the guys proposing this vertical farm should meet.

Maybe the two buildings can be joined into one!! One story, human cadavers. In story above, plants, feeding from the human cadavers!!
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2008, 8:49 PM
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For the vertical graveyard, do they have to keep the building at a cool temperature?
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2008, 9:02 PM
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^I dont think so. Notice the "drawers" are exposed. The corridors are open, like balconies. I think there are cooling systems for the drawers... not for the whole building... I mean... the dead are kept cool... the living, in the balconies, do not have cooling.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2008, 4:17 AM
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A 30 storey graveyard skyscraper . . . I really couldn't have imagined a project like this one! Unless we'd have been talking about a sci fi flick set in a century or so. Thanks for the post - very interesting.
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Unless they're growing marijuana I don't see how they're going to have anywhere near $25 million in revenue from produce. If each floor is 1/3 of an acre that only give 10 acres total area for produce to grow and be supported. There are thousands and thousands of farmers in the US that struggle to make a living with 100 acres!
Advantages of Vertical Farming
Year-round crop production; 1 indoor acre is equivalent to 4-6 outdoor acres or more, depending upon the crop (e.g., strawberries: 1 indoor acre = 30 outdoor acres)
No weather-related crop failures due to droughts, floods, pests
All VF food is grown organically: no herbicides, pesticides, or fertilizers
VF virtually eliminates agricultural runoff by recycling black water
VF returns farmland to nature, restoring ecosystem functions and services
VF greatly reduces the incidence of many infectious diseases that are acquired at the agricultural interface
VF converts black and gray water into potable water by collecting the water of
evapotranspiration
VF adds energy back to the grid via methane generation from composting non-edible
parts of plants and animals
VF dramatically reduces fossil fuel use (no tractors, plows, shipping.)
VF converts abandoned urban properties into food production centers
VF creates sustainable environments for urban centers
VF creates new employment opportunities
We cannot go to the moon, Mars, or beyond without first learning to farm indoors on
earth
VF may prove to be useful for integrating into refugee camps
VF offers the promise of measurable economic improvement for tropical and subtropical
LDCs. If this should prove to be the case, then VF may be a catalyst in helping to reduce or even reverse the population growth of LDCs as they adopt urban agriculture as a strategy for sustainable food production.
VF could reduce the incidence of armed conflict over natural resources, such as water
and land for agriculture

http://www.verticalfarm.com/
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2008, 5:27 AM
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^ wow! fascinating stuff man!
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a big thing I always forget, is how far away food comes from.

I mean, diesel trucks have to truck it from all over the place to get to my plate.

You grow it locally, eat it locally, you eliminate a lot of waste.

Hope these things 'sprout' up all over if the concept works
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back in the 1960's (or perhaps early 70's) National Geographic had an article on the future of farming, and they included drawings of vertical farms (vertical cow sheds, connected to a city by monorails, etc.).
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This was originally a non-site specific proposal. I don't know how the poster got the impression it was a Las Vegas proposal?
In theory it's possible to grow much of what we eat indoors...but is it economically fessible?
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The linked article has Las Vegas in the title about building this.
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