Homicide stats in Canadian Cities

[softee]

Seems to me that Weston and neighbourhoods all along Weston Road have become Toronto's biggest hotspot for shootings and gang activity lately.

[trebor204]

Winnipeg is now at 41, tying it's record for most homicides in a single year.

[vid]

I keep forgetting to post here! Thunder Bay has had an interesting week with regards to homicide.

UPDATE: Accused in homicide remanded into custody
Police charge a 40-year-old of Thunder Bay with Second-Degree Murder.
Nov 14, 2019 10:52 AM By: Community Submission
Updated Nov 14, 2019 10:53 AM

NEWS RELEASE
THUNDER BAY POLICE SERVICE
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Johnathon Mark MCKAY, 40, of Thunder Bay has been charged with Second-Degree Murder in connection with the homicide of Nazareth Andrew KWANDIBENS.

Officers were originally dispatched to a residential address in the 300 block of Arundel Street just after 2 p.m. on Wednesday, Nov. 13 following reports of a death.

Paramedics with Superior North EMS and Firefighters with Thunder Bay Fire Rescue were also dispatched to the scene. First responders attempted to resuscitate a victim, who was later identified as KWANDIBENS.

Investigators with the Major Crimes Unit confirmed the nature of the death was consistent with a homicide.

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...ustody-1847824

This is 3 or 4 for Thunder Bay this year? I haven't been keeping track this year.

The next day, something even more shocking:

UPDATED: Larry Hebert charged with attempted murder (2 Photos)
The former city councillor is in custody pending a December court appearance
a day ago By: TbNewsWatch.com Staff



THUNDER BAY — Thunder Bay Police have arrested former veteran city councillor Larry Hebert on a charge of attempted murder.

The charge follows an incident at a South Vickers Street residence shortly after 3 p.m. on Thursday.

The 72-year-old former councillor was remanded into custody during a court appearance Friday morning.

Police said when they responded to a report of a disturbance at a residence in the 400 block of Vickers St. South, they were told a male had attacked another person in the home.

They said the victim was also allegedly threatened during the attack.

The individual fled to a neighbouring home and called 911.

Hebert served three terms on city council, having first been elected in 2006.

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...murder-1850330

Larry Herbert's case is subject to a publication ban. Rumours on local Facebook pages are that it was a home invasion and self defense but nothing is confirmed by police.

[Luisito]

Originally Posted by trebor204

Winnipeg is now at 41, tying it's record for most homicides in a single year.

It was almost 42 after the most recent liqour mart robbery. The young lady was hit in the head and taken to hospital in serious condition. She is now in stable condition thankfully.

These robberies have really gotten out of control, and they are turning more and more violent all the time.

[Calgarian]

Those liquor store robberies in Winnipeg really are something else, can't think of anything like it that I've heard of before...

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Those liquor store robberies in Winnipeg really are something else, can't think of anything like it that I've heard of before...

We have a very innovative criminal underclass

[Acajack]

Your liquor store robberies were on Radio-Canada's national news this morning. It's pretty freaky, from the sounds of it.

[drew]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Those liquor store robberies in Winnipeg really are something else, can't think of anything like it that I've heard of before...

It's amazing what happens when the MLCC mentions in every article published about theft in their stores that staff (and rent-a-cop security guys) are instructed to not intervene when a theft occurs.

Maybe they figured all these would be thieves can't read?

They might as well just have large signs on the store fronts "free booze for those who do not wish to pay!"

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by drew

It's amazing what happens when the MLCC mentions in every article published about theft in their stores that staff (and rent-a-cop security guys) are instructed to not intervene when a theft occurs.

Maybe they figured all these would be thieves can't read?

They might as well just have large signs on the store fronts "free booze for those who do not wish to pay!"

Pretty much. Now it looks like a lot of stores will have a security check before you can actually go in.

[Pinus]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Those liquor store robberies in Winnipeg really are something else, can't think of anything like it that I've heard of before...

Let's not forget that these are also happening in Alberta and Ontario en masse. However, since the country likes to shit on us because it's basically a national passtime, all the focus of these robberies is on Winnipeg. Not Edmonton, not Toronto. Just us.

#soproudtobecanadian

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by Pinus

Let's not forget that these are also happening in Alberta and Ontario en masse. However, since the country likes to shit on us because it's basically a national passtime, all the focus of these robberies is on Winnipeg. Not Edmonton, not Toronto. Just us.

#soproudtobecanadian

You're such a whiner, get some thicker skin and quit bitching man.

[Pinus]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

You're such a whiner, get some thicker skin and quit bitching man.

Interesting, coming from someone in a province that has the loudest whiners of all.

[Luisito]

Yeah the situation is pretty weird. I have never seen anything like this. It's not only the liquor stores getting hit. 7/11's are getting hit pretty bad (way more than usual). The cops just shot some one trying to rob a 7/11 with a machete this afternoon.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Pinus

Let's not forget that these are also happening in Alberta and Ontario en masse. However, since the country likes to shit on us because it's basically a national passtime, all the focus of these robberies is on Winnipeg. Not Edmonton, not Toronto. Just us.

#soproudtobecanadian

There might be some truth to this, though I wouldn't say Radio-Canada "has it in" for Manitoba particularly. They're usually extremely Quebec-focused when it comes to societal problems, and only sporadically venture outside the province for stuff like this.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Luisito

Yeah the situation is pretty weird. I have never seen anything like this. It's not only the liquor stores getting hit. 7/11's are getting hit pretty bad (way more than usual). The cops just shot some one trying to rob a 7/11 with a machete this afternoon.

Last month I took my kid to that very same inner city 7-Eleven to grab a slurpee. It was my first time in that location in years, and I was surprised to see what it looked like inside... I wouldn't quite say it was fortified, but it was definitely heavily modified to deal with crime. A couple of 7-Elevens have even closed in recent years due to shoplifting and crime, and one more is slated to close.

I hate to say it but certain parts of Winnipeg are taking on the character of big, downtrodden American cities. Other cities may be going through similar things, but I'd be pretty surprised if it was as common and serious as it has been here. I think it's pretty damn newsworthy.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Acajack

There might be some truth to this, though I wouldn't say Radio-Canada "has it in" for Manitoba particularly. They're usually extremely Quebec-focused when it comes to societal problems, and only sporadically venture outside the province for stuff like this.

Winnipeg could be a little more prominent on their radar given that we have a decent-sized local Radio-Canada newsroom here. If the same thing was going in Calgary or Saskatoon it might not get noticed quite as readily.

[Jammon]

Originally Posted by esquire

Last month I took my kid to that very same inner city 7-Eleven to grab a slurpee. It was my first time in that location in years, and I was surprised to see what it looked like inside... I wouldn't quite say it was fortified, but it was definitely heavily modified to deal with crime. A couple of 7-Elevens have even closed in recent years due to shoplifting and crime, and one more is slated to close.

I hate to say it but certain parts of Winnipeg are taking on the character of big, downtrodden American cities. Other cities may be going through similar things, but I'd be pretty surprised if it was as common and serious as it has been here. I think it's pretty damn newsworthy.

It is and it's all related to drugs. I was in Indianapolis recently for a conference and they had a record number of murders and the majority of them were downtown- young kids involved in gun play mostly. Many cities are dealing with a meth crisis and although Manitoba has done literally nothing to deal with it, it is a national issue that the federal government needs to tackle especially with Mexico being the largest provider of crystal meth in Canada.

But for Winnipeg, I place the blame squarely on our mayor and premier for not dealing with this when it emerged years ago. Now, we require drastic measures and it will surely be a useless, knee jerk response rather than looking at the social determinants of health and figuring out what types of social programming and therapy is needed.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by Pinus

Interesting, coming from someone in a province that has the loudest whiners of all.

I knew you would say that, you piss and moan that everyone is picking on you, but don't hesitate to bash everyone else. The problem isn't picking on Winnipeg, the problem is a massive increase in this type of crime in Winnipeg.

Originally Posted by esquire

If the same thing was going in Calgary or Saskatoon it might not get noticed quite as readily.

Sure it would, a massive increase in violent robberies would get noticed everywhere in the country, even if it were in the DTES in Van.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by esquire

Winnipeg could be a little more prominent on their radar given that we have a decent-sized local Radio-Canada newsroom here. If the same thing was going in Calgary or Saskatoon it might not get noticed quite as readily.

That could be a factor. Not sure.

To people who pay attention to such things Winnipeg (and especially St-Boniface) is certainly emblematic of French Canada in the West.

Even though the number of francophones in both BC and Alberta is now quite a bit higher than in Manitoba. In the vicinity of double in each case IIRC.

But it's also true that shootings in Toronto have gotten a lot of francophone media attention too, though that city isn't really known for being a francophone centre of any sort. (Though the francophone population in the GTA is decently large and growing.)

[megadude]

Sorry, not a contributor to this thread (although I do read it), but I do remember a comment from Pinus after the Raps won the championship. He went on the basketball thread and simply wrote something like "Basketball... meh". And that was all.

Not a complaint or whine, but seemed like a pointless post. What was the reason for that? Trolling I guess?

I have noticed a couple of jabs directed at him in other threads, like this one, so the comment in the bball thread came to mind.