Winnipeg's Exchange District | East/West | Development

[Urban recluse]

Apparently the sign is coming.

In terms of 98 Market, the siding is horrible. If this project was in the Spence neighborhood, it would be fine.

[1ajs]

its an interesting building when it weathers a bit i think it will fit in better

but its telling a story in its desgin and i like this

[EndoftheBeginning]

I guess because Waterfront Drive is becoming a bit of a well known shortcut to get up to Higgins or Disraeli, the City is looking at putting in traffic lights on Waterfront at James, McDermot or Bannatyne. Residents have complained they can't turn onto Waterfront from James during morning or afternoon rush hours due to the traffic. Traffic report is due at Public Works Committee tomorrow.

[buzzg]

I'd rather they put 3-way stops at every other intersection than lights. Raise the intersections. This would slow people down that use Waterfront as a highway, allow people to easily get on to Waterfront, and make it safer for cyclists and pedestrians. I fear having a green light would make people zoom through even faster because they know there shouldn't be anyone in the intersection.

Another option would be more roundabouts or closing off some access from Main/Higgins. I think most of the issues are coming from the fact there's no real good option to head easy on Provencher if you're coming from north Main. Can't turn left on Portage; the direct access to William Stephenson is an undersized and often dangerous left turn lane, not at an intersection; and York has no turn light, and shouldn't really be an option.

If the city and The Forks want to decrease traffic on York (which they should) and make it less desirable to do the Waterfront shortcut, access to Provencher via William Stephenson has to be improved. It's very awkward, even though it should be a main thoroughfare.

[oftheMoon]

Originally Posted by EndoftheBeginning

I guess because Waterfront Drive is becoming a bit of a well known shortcut to get up to Higgins or Disraeli, the City is looking at putting in traffic lights on Waterfront at James, McDermot or Bannatyne. Residents have complained they can't turn onto Waterfront from James during morning or afternoon rush hours due to the traffic. Traffic report is due at Public Works Committee tomorrow.

Traffic lights - good gawd no ffs! They should use the same design as they did on Assiniboine Ave when years ago there were problems with that route being over-used during rush hour to get to/from Main to Osborne.

Get the pass-through traffic off Waterfront as this area is getting hundreds of more residential units over the next little while. It's a residential neighbourhood not a street for traffic.

[Urban recluse]

Lights would be ridiculous. Typical Winnipeg response.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by EndoftheBeginning

I guess because Waterfront Drive is becoming a bit of a well known shortcut to get up to Higgins or Disraeli, the City is looking at putting in traffic lights on Waterfront at James, McDermot or Bannatyne. Residents have complained they can't turn onto Waterfront from James during morning or afternoon rush hours due to the traffic. Traffic report is due at Public Works Committee tomorrow.

its only goting to get worse when donald goes down to 2 lans past notre dame

having lily closed atm doesnt help either

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

Lights would be ridiculous. Typical Winnipeg response.

what els do u do there ? its getting bad

[Urban recluse]

Speed humps.

[buzzg]

Lights wouldn't solve anything. That does nothing to deter the extra traffic from using Waterfront.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Lights wouldn't solve anything. That does nothing to deter the extra traffic from using Waterfront.

dont allow right turns off higgins 7-9

[oftheMoon]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

what els do u do there ? its getting bad

Whatever they did to Assiniboine to prevent it from being a thoroughfare like Waterfront is now worked like a charm. A bit of inconvenience for residents, but huge benefit to reduce and almost remove traffic. If that can't be done, they could consider:

Restrict access to Higgins from Waterfront during certain hours?

Another traffic circle at McDermot and Waterfront and/or at Pacific and Waterfront?

Raised intersections at all intersections all along the way?

3-way stops at all intersections all along the way as a last resort?

[esquire]

Why can't there just be traffic? These are urban streets after all. Install speed humps and other traffic calming devices if speeds are getting out of hand.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by oftheMoon

Whatever they did to Assiniboine to prevent it from being a thoroughfare like Waterfront is now worked like a charm. A bit of inconvenience for residents, but huge benefit to reduce and almost remove traffic. If that can't be done, they could consider:

Restrict access to Higgins from Waterfront during certain hours?

Another traffic circle at McDermot and Waterfront and/or at Pacific and Waterfront?

Raised intersections at all intersections all along the way?

3-way stops at all intersections all along the way as a last resort?

what do u say to the buisnes in the area? they need to be apart of the discussion as well

[oftheMoon]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

what do u say to the buisnes in the area? they need to be apart of the discussion as well

Good point for sure. There has to be a middle of the road solution that works for all.

"Let there be traffic" with speed humps isn't a bad idea as it may discourage some volume. But the volume is out of hand lately. I usually walk to work, but one day last week I had to drive to an appointment. Heading east on James to turn south onto Waterfront at 8:15am was unbelievable! Traffic was backed up from Waterfront at the ballpark all the way north past Pacific. That's approx. 1km - ridiculous...

[bomberjet]

We talked about this at some point before. Tough decisions. My solution was to close Waterfront at some location which makes sense. Still allow access to all the buildings, but block the road at some point forcing people to turn. That'll get rid of the problem of through traffic on Waterfront. May direct the problem to another location like Lily.

Beyond that I don't really see a way in reducing traffic. You'll slow it down with lights and speed bumps/humps. But people will still use it as an alternate to Main.

[1ajs]

drop the speed limit to 30 people will change their route they take but atm with lilly being close it doesnt help either

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

what do u say to the buisnes in the area? they need to be apart of the discussion as well

None of the suggested options would have any affect on businesses. They slow traffic and would make less people use it as a short cut. MAYBE the limited access from Higgins would have a slight effect, but it just means people going to the businesses use any of the other streets to get there.

Originally Posted by 1ajs

drop the speed limit to 30 people will change their route they take but atm with lilly being close it doesnt help either

Speed limits do nothing. Road design is what matters. I'd guess the average speed on Grant by GP and on Kenaston is 65 when the limit is 50.

I think the best option is another roundabout or 2 and raised intersections. 3-way stops wou;d be a good, cheap solution at least in the interim as well. Plus pedestrians benefit from easier crossing that way too.

[CoryB]

Waterfront - no access to Higgins or Provencher in rush hour. Let police ticket offenders similar to the EB Portage to Donald turn. People will quickly get the message.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by CoryB

Waterfront - no access to Higgins or Provencher in rush hour. Let police ticket offenders similar to the EB Portage to Donald turn. People will quickly get the message.

This. This would do it. Don't need any lights.