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Old Posted Mar 8, 2020, 12:17 AM
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Could Madam at left be Mrs. Cooper's mother?

I see a family resemblance, and a generational-length difference of age. And so perhaps this is a three-generations pic.

Just guessin'!
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2020, 2:19 AM
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I think it is her mother, Veronica Gibbons Balfe. She died in 1958.

Her brother was the famed art director/production designer Cedric Gibbons who designed the Oscar statuette and proceeded to win eleven of them.


This link has a list of projects that John Woolf's practice was involved with.

Online Archive of California


He designed a house for the photograph's taker Jean Howard and one for Mrs. "Rocky" Cooper's second husband John Converse.

Promising I thought ... the mystery house is bound to be in there somewhere.

I checked out the LA area projects from the 1950's but could not turn up the house in e_r's pictures.

Someone might have better luck than I did if they give it a shot.

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Old Posted Mar 8, 2020, 2:42 AM
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Maybe the house was not in Los Angeles.

At least we're homing in on a date pre-1958.

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Old Posted Mar 8, 2020, 2:55 PM
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https://i.redd.it/k3oth6h5yn631.jpg

Here's a picture of Maria Cooper on the set of High Noon in 1952. Later photos have her with a longer hair style so I would guess the photos of the house are from the earlier part of the 1950s. Which may narrow the search a bit.

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https://i.redd.it/k3oth6h5yn631.jpg

Here's a picture of Maria Cooper on the set of High Noon in 1952. Later photos have her with a longer hair style so I would guess the photos of the house are from the earlier part of the 1950s. Which may narrow the search a bit.

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Earl

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Maria Cooper on a hot date with Tab Hunter....wow, was she the lucky girl.

Her next date was with Tony Perkins. How does she manage it?

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Old Posted Mar 8, 2020, 7:05 PM
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I think it is her mother, Veronica Gibbons Balfe. She died in 1958.

Her brother was the famed art director/production designer Cedric Gibbons who designed the Oscar statuette and proceeded to win eleven of them.


This link has a list of projects that John Woolf's practice was involved with.

Online Archive of California


He designed a house for the photograph's taker Jean Howard and one for Mrs. "Rocky" Cooper's second husband John Converse.

Promising I thought ... the mystery house is bound to be in there somewhere.

I checked out the LA area projects from the 1950's but could not turn up the house in e_r's pictures.

Someone might have better luck than I did if they give it a shot.
Tantalizing entry in that archive:



Hmmm, Jean Howard photograph, and the dates are right.

Fred Prophet was evidently a vending machine mogul in Los Angeles. The current house on the property was built in 2012.

FWIW, as always.

Cheers,

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Old Posted Mar 8, 2020, 8:31 PM
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The black and white photo of Westwood in the 1930s show the Janss Dome, headquarters for the Janss Investment Company. It is still a landmark building in Westwood. I met Harold Janss, a couple of years before his death, in Westwood and had the pleasure of speaking to the man who helped create the UCLA campus and Westwood Village. All of us who attended UCLA know the famous Janss Steps, named after Harold and his brother, Edwin Janss Sr.

Here is a brief biography of Harold Janss and his family.

Harold Janns was born in 1889 and died in 1972. Harold was the son-in-law of Arthur Letts who owned several acres of land in what is now Westwood, California. Letts had Harold develop the area for housing and with his brother Edwin, the two men ran the Janss Investment Company. Harold and his brother were responsible for moving UCLA from Hollywood to its present location in Westwood. Although Letts wanted the land to be sold to the wealthy for large estates and homes, Harold sold the land to the middle-class of Los Angeles and in 1926, Kelton Avenue was the first street to be developed. Since then, the area has quickly become populated and somewhat congested with apartments, condos, office buildings and several stores and movie theaters.
I grew up in a town developed by the Janns, Thousand Oaks, and then headed to a college where it and the surrounding community were also developed by the Janns family(UCLA obviously).
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Is that a Rover P4 behind the pale blue Buick hardtop? If so, a pretty rara avis even for Los Angeles.

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It's an early 1950's Hillman Minx from England


http://www.autoarkiv.dk/CAR%20BROCHU..._BROCHURE.html
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Old Posted Mar 8, 2020, 9:14 PM
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^^^

Well done!

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It's an early 1950's Hillman Minx from England


http://www.autoarkiv.dk/CAR%20BROCHU..._BROCHURE.html
Life is better when you drive a Minx!

My Grandmother lived on Franklin Place near Highland & Franklin and drove an Austin America when I was young... I saw much of the Hollywood area through it’s windows but, it also spent much of it’s time at the Richfield station on Cahuenga near Barham waiting for parts to arrive from England!

Onward we go!!!

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Tantalizing entry in that archive:



Hmmm, Jean Howard photograph, and the dates are right.

Fred Prophet was evidently a vending machine mogul in Los Angeles. The current house on the property was built in 2012.

FWIW, as always.

Cheers,

Earl


I think you've got it EB.

The colored arrows say yes.


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Old Posted Mar 9, 2020, 3:35 AM
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Team effort; always the best kind. Couldn't have done it without the other postings.

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What became of the handsome hound that sat guard at the gates of 1011 N. Crescent Drive in 1953?

Replaced by a pale imposter of indeterminate breed in the intervening years before demolition in 2009.



GSV - 2009
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2020, 4:53 AM
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Excellent work EVERYONE!!!

I looked nearly everywhere for that damn house.

And welcome to NLA, Hookster.


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Old Posted Mar 9, 2020, 5:28 AM
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Excellent work EVERYONE!!!

I looked nearly everywhere for that damn house.

And welcome to NLA, Hookster.


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Very Impressive Work Indeed!... You guys have full on ninja skills!!!

Many Thanks for the welcome E_R!!! I am honored to be aboard!

Also CBD... Many Thanks on the Bonanza YT URL!!!

Onward we go!!!
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2020, 1:36 PM
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Smoke still rising from the rubble--May 2009:








It looks like this was built by Prophet for a profit...the ad above appeared in the LAT from April 30, 1953, through the summer, until it was reported sold on October 18:





But the house wasn't getting its due love yet...it was on the market again by March 14, 1954:





Fred and June Prophet also had a house in Palm Springs at 417 Hermosa Place...which, per the LAT on October 18, 1953, they had just sold to Leo Spitz, head of production at Universal.


PLUS, A NEW CHALLENGE...if it was ever built. It looks like the Prophets were looking for something more over-the-top. From a book I have here on my shelf--Glitter Stucco & Dumpster Diving: Reflections on Building Production in the Vernacular City by John Chase:

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Old Posted Mar 9, 2020, 3:42 PM
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I passed our findings on to the University of Wyoming so they can update their listing.

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Earl
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2020, 4:31 PM
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How to turn a nice little house in West Hollywood into a Hollywood Regency wanna-be.



knocking off the knockoffs / JOHN CHASE









knocking off the knockoffs / JOHN CHASE







Voila!


knocking off the knockoffs / JOHN CHASE

Complete with a bust of Caesar on the roof.

"A mania for transforming Spanish Colonial Revival mutts into French Regency pedigreed poodles swept West Hollywood.
The Regency style craze of the Camelot years of the early 1960s saw the height of the box-in-the-old and tack-on-the new movement;
in its wake were left miles of garlands, a forest of pop-up mansards and enough carriage lamps to render the street lights redundant."
....John Chase




And today.


GSV...................................................................................................WHERE'S CAESAR?


In all honesty I'd be a bit embarrassed to live there.... It's way too ostentatious for the neighborhood.....

I much prefer the house next door.




search purposes:....larry limotti....ross worsley....8937 Ashcroft Avenue....West Hollywood
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2020, 6:07 PM
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Hookster, I'm also English but don't spend any time in the shop waiting for parts to arrive from England!

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I just located a photograph of John Woolf posing in front of his office at 8450 Melrose Place.


Vanityfair

He is the person responsible for the Hollywood Regency architectural 'style'. (a precursor to post-modern architecture) We have no doubt talked about him previously on NLA)

Here is an abbreviated list of his work.

• Cary Grant, 9966 Beverly Grove Drive, Los Angeles.
• Errol Flynn, 7740 Mulholland Drive, Los Angeles.
• Vincente Minnelli and Judy Garland, 8850 Evanview Drive, Los Angeles.
• Barbara Stanwyck, 273 South Glen Boulevard, Los Angeles.
• Ira and Leonore Gershwin, 1021 North Roxbury Drive, Beverly Hills.
• Fanny Brice, 312 North Faring Road, Los Angeles.
• Bob Hope, 10346 Moorpark Street, North Hollywood.
• Agnes Moorehead, 1023 North Roxbury Drive, Beverly Hills.
• Ronald Colman, 1003 Summit Drive, Beverly Hills.
• Charles Feldman and Jean Howard, 2000 Coldwater Canyon, Los Angeles.
• Lillian Gish, Trancas Beach, Malibu.
• Mervyn LeRoy, 332 St. Cloud Road, Bel Air.
• Paul Lynde, 103 Robin Drive, Los Angeles.
• Ray Milland, 10664 Bellagio Road, Los Angeles.
• Ricardo and Georgiana Montalban, 9256 Robin Drive, Los Angeles.
• Loretta Young, 8313 Fountain Avenue, Los Angeles.
• Katharine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy, 9191 St. Ives Drive, Beverly Hills.
This staircase is from the Vanity Fair article posted by e_r. The caption identifies it as Ira Gershwin's house, which was 1021 North Roxbury Drive, Beverly Hills.


vanityfair.com

Here's the John Elgin Woolf designed house in 2011.


GSV

It was replaced by the current house (below) around 2015.


GSV

There are more pictures of the original house and its demolition in an LAT slideshow.

Rosemary Clooney lived next door at 1019 N Roxbury for almost 50 years. That house was demolished in 2005, just three years after Rosemary's death.
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