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Old Posted Mar 21, 2019, 4:19 PM
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^ So the so-called "black vote" ( yeah we really need to get past this) is obviously getting split up; and with Lightfoot probably having a huge lead among Hispanics and Whites, this one's very likely in a bag.
it also doesn't help that preckwinkle's campaign has pulled all TV ads off the air.

that's not a sign of strong campaign with two weeks to go until election day.

typically, this is "big push" time, not retreat and restrategize time.
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it also doesn't help that preckwinkle's campaign has pulled all TV ads off the air.

that's not a sign of strong campaign with two weeks to go until election day.

typically, this is "big push" time, not retreat and restrategize time.
Her pulling of all TV ads is nothing short of a capitulation. She sees the writing on the wall and wants to save that sweet sweet campaign cash for reelection to board president.
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Preckwinkle is a racist piece of shit:

https://www-chicagotribune-com.cdn.a...323-story.html
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Preckwinkle is a racist piece of shit:

https://www-chicagotribune-com.cdn.a...323-story.html


Seems like a lot of black leaders revealed their true colors at that rally.

As an Asian man, I find it amazing. The "white guilt" folks just keep putting up with this nonsense. What a fantastic race-baiting scam these people have going on....
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It's the last gasp of a dying campaign. Preckwinkle's poll numbers are appalling outside of the African-American wards and even those are split at best. The current predictions I've seen show Preckwinkle winning 7 wards. Interestingly, many of the activists who actually did the ground work against police brutality like William Calloway are backing Lightfoot. While the entrenched politicians (like the Daleys ironically) are voting Preckwinkle.

Basically, Preckwinkle's campaign is entirely dependent at this point on middle-class African-American youths who are ideologically anti-police being scared into voting against Lightfoot. Because Preckwinkle can't offer any good reasons to vote FOR her. And it's only really effective in the isolated South Side wards. African-American neighborhoods on the West and Southwest who regularly interact with other neighborhoods are much more skeptical.

Change Research 2nd Ward: 67.9 to 20.4 for Light foot
GBA Strategies 40th Ward: 62 to 26 for Lightfoot

And of course, this excerpt of endorsements shows you which way the wind is blowing in their wards.

"In addition to Rush and White, Preckwinkle was joined by U.S. Rep. Danny Davis and aldermen Pat Dowell, 3rd; Sophia King, 4th; Walter Burnett, 27th; and Carrie Austin, 34th.

Lightfoot’s day included voting early in Logan Square and launching a canvass at her packed office in Austin alongside Ald. Emma Mitts, 37th, and later greeting voters on the South Side with Ald. Derrick Curtis, 18th."
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This kind of dog whistle nonsense from Chance the rapper is egregiously bad. Clearly what chicago needs is more geographic division and racial resentment. That's the path to a brighter future for our city

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Preckwinkle was introduced at the rally by Chance the Rapper, the first time the two shared a stage since the hip-hop star endorsed her candidacy Thursday.

“Her opponent was not elected by the South Side. Her opponent was not elected by the West Side,” Chance said of Lightfoot. “Her opponent was elected by the North Side, and there’s two of us and one of them, and we need to come out in droves and elect our next mayor of Chicago, President Toni Preckwinkle. Make some noise, Chicago!”
Desperation. Self respect lost.

The good news is that most black voters in chicago are intelligent enough to see right through this us vs. them charade. Harold never resorted to "side-ism". He didn't have too. He was a real leader.
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The Prekwinkle campaign is a complete joke at this point. It is pandering to black racists and public employee unions. Can't wait to see Prekwinkle humiliated in the runoff.
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The Prekwinkle campaign is a complete joke at this point. It is pandering to black racists and public employee unions. Can't wait to see Prekwinkle humiliated in the runoff.
Could not agree more!
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The Prekwinkle campaign is a complete joke at this point. It is pandering to black racists and public employee unions. Can't wait to see Prekwinkle humiliated in the runoff.
Yeah, Preckwinkle is almost shaping up to be the dying gasp of the machine and old school Chicago ethnic tribalism. Hope she gets sent packing extra hard to be an exclamation point on the death of these tired ideas.

I'm phone banking for Lightfoot all day Wednesday and canvassing for her on Saturday and Sunday. I'll be driving home the above points to everyone I talk to. No more division, no more corruption, a new United Chicago.
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Fantastic interview with Lightfoot. Feeling very good that I voted for her now. Some highlights from the interview:

Lightfoot ruled out a “LaSalle Street” tax on financial transactions that she said would just drive CME and other trading firms out of town, a return of the employer head tax, or a commuter tax on suburban residents who work in the city. The latter would end up subjecting Chicagoans who work out of town to higher taxes, she said. She also said she opposes a city income tax, and said any possible hike in the property tax would have to wait for Fritz Kaegi, the new county assessor, to implement his reform plans.

In other points of interest, Lightfoot:

Opposes rent control. The solution to Chicago’s big shortage of affordable housing is to build more units for low-income people in more neighborhoods, and imposing rent control would not help with that, she said.

Strongly suggested that newly hired city workers would have to get reduced pensions, with benefits below even the levels already imposed on workers hired after Jan. 1, 2011. But Lightfoot said she would not move them to a 401(k)-style program, saying that would bankrupt the current pension system, which counts on income from new workers.
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Lightfoot ruled out a “LaSalle Street” tax on financial transactions that she said would just drive CME and other trading firms out of town, ...
About fucking time. This is one homegrown industry that we need the City to be supporting and promoting the fuck out of.

And just one correction. CME, Cboe are exchanges. Trading firms among others trade at the exchanges. Lose the exchanges and this city's financial reputation is toast.
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This kind of dog whistle nonsense from Chance the rapper is egregiously bad. Clearly what chicago needs is more geographic division and racial resentment. That's the path to a brighter future for our city

Desperation. Self respect lost.

The good news is that most black voters in chicago are intelligent enough to see right through this us vs. them charade. Harold never resorted to "side-ism". He didn't have too. He was a real leader.
I hope that Chance just doesn't quite follow politics or have time to really think through the politics that get handed to him. Because he's obviously young and hopeful and wants to do good things, but if he's getting corralled into old-school machine politics, he won't have the kind of positive impact I'm sure he would like to have.

Anyway, really, really glad Lightfoot is not buying into the idea that a "Lasalle Street Tax" is constructive. As someone who basically moved to Chicago because of the exchanges here, I would hate to see the exchanges driven out of town. I just have never understood how anyone over the age of 30 could entertain the thought of taxing trades at exchanges unilaterally. If literally every exchange in the world (yes, the world) decided to implement a per-trade tax I actually think that would be a good thing. But it MUST be global, it cannot be done on an individual basis or you just drive all the business from taxed exchanges to untaxed exchanges. Global taxation reduces purely speculative trades which is probably a good thing for the markets. Unilateral taxation just adds an unproductive layer of complexity to trades with no actual benefit.

I always feel weird advocating for exchanges because I am really more of a socialist in the big picture, but I also believe in the value of markets. Just not in unfettered, laissez-faire markets.

At any rate, Preckwinkle ends up looking like the kind of socialist who's into it only because it buys her power and control, while Lightfoot ends up looking like the kind of capitalist who also believes that targeted regulation also creates freer, more efficient markets that ultimately decentralize power - which is something everyone pays lip service too, but few understand how to make it happen.
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I hope that Chance just doesn't quite follow politics or have time to really think through the politics that get handed to him. Because he's obviously young and hopeful and wants to do good things, but if he's getting corralled into old-school machine politics, he won't have the kind of positive impact I'm sure he would like to have.
Lori has the (begrudging) support of the police/fire community, so to somebody like Chance she is radioactive. It's literally that simple.

I guess I might see things his way if my skin color allowed cops to treat me like Laquan McDonald. Hard to be concerned about insider vs outsider, machine vs reformer or other finer points of politics when you're literally scared for your life going out on the street. The reality is more nuanced of course, but to many young black voters it seems crystal clear that they should not use their vote to support the police.
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^^ Chance's dad is Ken Bennett. Ken Bennett was Rahm's Deputy Chief of Staff. Ken then worked for Choose Chicago.

Ken Bennett is the co-chair of Preckwinkle's campaign for mayor.
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Yeah, but Chance attacked Rahm loudly and endlessly despite his dad’s job. I don’t think he’s backing Preckwinkle this time purely out of loyalty to the old man...
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Yeah, but Chance attacked Rahm loudly and endlessly despite his dad’s job. I don’t think he’s backing Preckwinkle this time purely out of loyalty to the old man...
You don't think a Chance endoresement has anything to do with his father being the co-chair of the campaign? That's very naive.

Chance is a blowhard. His father has been pulling in over $160,000 from the government since the aughts. Yet Chance cries poverty.

Now Chance is using dog whistle language to claim that one black woman won't help the black community. Meanwhile, his father is the co-chair of the other campaign. It's sleazy.
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You don't think a Chance endoresement has anything to do with his father being the co-chair of the campaign? That's very naive.
In addition to criticizing Rahm when his dad was Rahm's chief of staff, Chance also endorsed Amara Enyia in the primary and not Preckwinkle. Seems pretty clear that Chance is perfectly willing to break from his father politically. I don't understand why you're seeing nepotism here.

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Where is he crying poverty? He chose to live on the South Side to stay connected to his community, but he's very obviously wealthy and successful. Pretty much all rappers walk that line of enjoying their money while staying connected to their community - nobody would buy their music if it wasn't relatable. Arguably Chance is more modest than most and doesn't name drop $100k cars or fashion/liquor brands. He also bought a Streeterville condo last year which was well publicized (and he talks about it in one of his songs).

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Now Chance is using dog whistle language to claim that one black woman won't help the black community. Meanwhile, his father is the co-chair of the other campaign. It's sleazy.
This is the only area where I agree with you, his public statements do seem to paint Lightfoot as a sort of Uncle Tom. But I think he earnestly supports Preckwinkle and believes she is the better candidate for the black community. Remember that city workers and teachers are disproportionately black and, due to the residency requirement, they comprise a huge portion of the city's black middle class. What's good for those unions is good for the black middle class.

FYI I am a Lightfoot supporter, I just don't see anything "sleazy" about Chance's endorsement, seems to make perfect sense.
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here's another poll pointing to a lightfoot landslide!


March 18-20
sample: 500
MoE - 4.4%

Lightfoot - 53%
Preckwinkle - 17%

Undecided - 29%

source: https://news.wttw.com/elections/vote...-election-poll


that's A LOT of undecideds at this stage of the game, but even if every single last one of them breaks for preckwinkle (yeah right), she still loses, LOL!





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FYI I am a Lightfoot supporter, I just don't see anything "sleazy" about Chance's endorsement, seems to make perfect sense.
there's nothing sleazy about his endorsement. chance is free to endorse whichever candidate he so chooses, just as anyone else.

but his language at the recent preckwinkle rally over the weekend, setting up an "us vs. them" narrative with his extremely divisive "side-ism" talk is sleaze-ball 5000.

i expected better of him.


but it won't ultimately matter a whole lot anyway.

lori lightfoot is going to be chicago's next mayor.

the WHOLE fucking city's next mayor.

not the south side mayor.

not the west side mayor.

not the northside mayor.

but rather the CITY OF CHICAGO's mayor!
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In addition to criticizing Rahm when his dad was Rahm's chief of staff, Chance also endorsed Amara Enyia in the primary and not Preckwinkle. Seems pretty clear that Chance is perfectly willing to break from his father politically. I don't understand why you're seeing nepotism here.



Where is he crying poverty? He chose to live on the South Side to stay connected to his community, but he's very obviously wealthy and successful. Pretty much all rappers walk that line of enjoying their money while staying connected to their community - nobody would buy their music if it wasn't relatable. Arguably Chance is more modest than most and doesn't name drop $100k cars or fashion/liquor brands. He also bought a Streeterville condo last year which was well publicized (and he talks about it in one of his songs).



This is the only area where I agree with you, his public statements do seem to paint Lightfoot as a sort of Uncle Tom. But I think he earnestly supports Preckwinkle and believes she is the better candidate for the black community. Remember that city workers and teachers are disproportionately black and, due to the residency requirement, they comprise a huge portion of the city's black middle class. What's good for those unions is good for the black middle class.

FYI I am a Lightfoot supporter, I just don't see anything "sleazy" about Chance's endorsement, seems to make perfect sense.

The only bad thing I see so far from lightfoot is shes anti tif and anti Lincoln yards and the 78.....
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there's nothing sleazy about his endorsement. chance is free to endorse whichever candidate he so chooses, just as anyone else.

but his language at the recent preckwinkle rally over the weekend, setting up an "us vs. them" narrative with his extremely divisive "side-ism" talk is sleaze-ball 5000.

i expected better of him.
The way Chance phrased his remarks was a little weird, but basically I think he's saying the same thing as Lee Bey here:

https://twitter.com/LEEBEY/status/1108935820596011008

The South Side is a huge urban zone (bigger than Philadelphia) whose needs cannot simply be ignored because the North Side is doing well. If you live on that side of town, the lack of attention by city leaders to South Side problems can be dumbfounding. The fact that Lightfoot finished in a distant 3rd or 4th in the West Side and deep South Side (i.e. the areas where Wilson got the most votes) plus her long history working with cops may suggest to people like Chance that she, too, will continue this lack of attention.

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The only bad thing I see so far from lightfoot is shes anti tif and anti Lincoln yards and the 78.....
Don't be so sure. It could just be shrewd posturing on Lightfoot's part. If you actually read her platform, she's proposing some smart reforms that will lower barriers to development - simpler building code, eliminating aldermanic prerogative for projects with affordable housing, etc.

As for Lincoln Yards - it'll be a done deal by the time the next mayor takes office. Even if Lightfoot "opposes" it, it doesn't matter. All it does is maybe get her some votes from pissed-off North Siders.
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