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Old Posted Aug 9, 2018, 11:08 PM
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Chicago is so affordable, the thought of rent control is down right laughable. Unfortunately, most of the electorate is going to get excited by any politician that offers to cut down one of their biggest expenses. Too bad they don't understand how supply and demand works, and how rent control is going to make finding available apartments damn near impossible. But alas, we like learning the hard way don't we?
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2018, 5:02 AM
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How exactly did rent control become a topic of issue in the Governor's race?
You can thank that smarmy twat Will Guzzardi for that. He's literally the most disingenuous politician I've ever met. I literally know him on a first name basis because I run into him literally everywhere I go and by that I mean at all of the fanciest cocktail bars, restaurants, and breweries in Logan Square. He's always sitting at Scofflaw, Revolution, Collectivo, etc etc etc and then he goes and campaigns for rent control. I've talked to him too and he knows damn well how stupid the idea is, he also knows that's how he can get to higher office.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2018, 9:40 AM
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Chicago doesn't rent control. The problem (perceived and realistic to some extent) is that many residents have to choose between dodging bullets or giving up half their checks to live in some stability. When the city actually makes curbing the crime a major priority, perhaps this debate can be at least delayed if not a thing of the past.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2018, 1:32 PM
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We’ve also reached a point in Chicago where there are literally tenants who are wealthier than their landlords. This half century notion of the rich and greedy landlord vs the poor widdle working class tenant who is struggling is way outdated.

We need to stop victimizing tenant-hood.
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Old Posted Aug 12, 2018, 3:58 AM
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Chicago doesn't rent control. The problem (perceived and realistic to some extent) is that many residents have to choose between dodging bullets or giving up half their checks to live in some stability. When the city actually makes curbing the crime a major priority, perhaps this debate can be at least delayed if not a thing of the past.
This isn't true either. For example, there's been a grand total of three homicides in Little Village this year which has a reputation for being a very "shooty" place. There are many areas that are sterotyped as dangerous but in reality have little crime especially if you don't partake in gangbanging.

Hermosa has zero, Bridgeport has zero, Kenwood has two, Uptown has zero, Rogers Park has one, West Ridge has two, Pullman has one, Burnside has zero, McKinnley Park as one, etc etc etc. None of these are expensive places except maybe Bridgeport.


The reality is Chicago has no affordability crisis PERIOD. There is high crime concentrated in a few very specific pockets and there is Gentrification in a few specific pockets and pretty much 50% of the city is cheap or moderately priced areas with average or low crime.
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Old Posted Aug 12, 2018, 2:43 PM
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I’ve got a tenant whose Dad co-signed the lease. Her Dad is a NYC attorney who makes $100,000 per month!. Now tell me, all of you who are stuck on this notion that tenants are poor and landlords are rich, who is better off here? I have a good job but I sure as hell ain’t making that kind of salary!
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2018, 3:55 PM
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This isn't true either. For example, there's been a grand total of three homicides in Little Village this year which has a reputation for being a very "shooty" place. There are many areas that are sterotyped as dangerous but in reality have little crime especially if you don't partake in gangbanging.

Hermosa has zero, Bridgeport has zero, Kenwood has two, Uptown has zero, Rogers Park has one, West Ridge has two, Pullman has one, Burnside has zero, McKinnley Park as one, etc etc etc. None of these are expensive places except maybe Bridgeport.


The reality is Chicago has no affordability crisis PERIOD. There is high crime concentrated in a few very specific pockets and there is Gentrification in a few specific pockets and pretty much 50% of the city is cheap or moderately priced areas with average or low crime.
I have been trying to convince my mother-in-law of this for a month. She is convinced the only option for a 60 year-old woman is in Lincoln Park for $1400/month.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2018, 12:14 AM
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I have been trying to convince my mother-in-law of this for a month. She is convinced the only option for a 60 year-old woman is in Lincoln Park for $1400/month.
She could rent an entire bungalow for that in like half a dozen decent areas of the city.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2018, 8:33 AM
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This isn't true either. For example, there's been a grand total of three homicides in Little Village this year which has a reputation for being a very "shooty" place. There are many areas that are sterotyped as dangerous but in reality have little crime especially if you don't partake in gangbanging.

Hermosa has zero, Bridgeport has zero, Kenwood has two, Uptown has zero, Rogers Park has one, West Ridge has two, Pullman has one, Burnside has zero, McKinnley Park as one, etc etc etc. None of these are expensive places except maybe Bridgeport.


The reality is Chicago has no affordability crisis PERIOD. There is high crime concentrated in a few very specific pockets and there is Gentrification in a few specific pockets and pretty much 50% of the city is cheap or moderately priced areas with average or low crime.
Most of those areas listed are sketchy at worse. They were never particularly notorious. You can probably find something cheap in the South Side communities, but the the North Side ones are definitely not that much cheaper than the hotter neighborhoods. $1k/month is not affordable to the people lobbying to rent control.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2018, 2:12 PM
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^ Bridgeport, Kenwood, McKinley Park, Uptown, West Ridge and Rogers Park are mostly not sketchy at all. Sure Uptown and Rogers have small pockets of sketch. This is the problem though, for some reason, some people think they should be able to live anywhere they want. It shouldn't be that way, it never has been that way, it never will be that way.

And rent at $1K is affordable to people making 60% of the Area Median Income. That's quite affordable.
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2018, 6:56 PM
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Jason Van Dyke goes to trial in two weeks. All hell will break loose if he's acquitted. I'm no lawyer but McDonald was strafing sideways on PCP when he was shot.

Does anyone anticipate riots?
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2018, 7:16 PM
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^ There will definitely be some unrest if the officer is acquitted. The black community in the city is too emotionally tied to this case, and whether the verdict or right or wrong, they will be upset if the officer walks. I'm sure CPD will anticipate and greatly increase the amount of cops on the street on the day of the verdict, and in the days that follow if necessary. If there is rioting, hopefully it will be kept isolated and to a minimum.
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This isn't true either. For example, there's been a grand total of three homicides in Little Village this year which has a reputation for being a very "shooty" place. There are many areas that are sterotyped as dangerous but in reality have little crime especially if you don't partake in gangbanging.

Hermosa has zero, Bridgeport has zero, Kenwood has two, Uptown has zero, Rogers Park has one, West Ridge has two, Pullman has one, Burnside has zero, McKinnley Park as one, etc etc etc. None of these are expensive places except maybe Bridgeport.
not all shootings are homicides as i think we're all aware, and thats mainly a testament to our skilled trauma surgeons and how good (or bad) the trigger man is at aiming. LV has a reputation as a shooty place, because well its a shooty place. and it borders a neighborhood thats an even bigger shooty place. and that dosent touch on other quality of life issues aside from that like break-ins, gang loitering (which often is a precursor to shootings), etc. Sure not as bad as some places but still no picnic, and the average person is not going to be comfortable living in those sorts of conditions.

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Ok, yea I suppose that's what they want to do. But the museum would be alot more visited if it was downtown. The Oriental Institute is a FREE museum with world class artifacts and the museums get very few visitors. Compared to the MOSI or the Field Museum there's barely a trickle of mostly local people that go there now. It just seems underutilized in Hyde Park. Lots of people that live in Chicago don't even know about it. It doesn't seem like they are doing a good job marketing it.
I think part of it is that many tourists are skeptical of buses and resistant to take a $20 each way cab ride. Uber/Lyft have reduced that cost a bit, but it's still more than many people want to tack onto their budget for a specialty museum when there are great museums downtown. A South Lakefront 'L' line or a repurposing of Metra Electric combined with a bit of marketing would do wonders for the treasures in Hyde Park. A line that also served the North Lakefront to serve the Zoo and the Nature Museum would really help tourism and some commuters.

Alternatively, making the express buses a "real" type of BRT mimicking rail service would also probably accomplish 75% of the benefit, have more flexibility and cost maybe only 20% as much to implement. The South part would also really speed up the gentrification in Bronzeville, Douglas, and adjacent areas, which helps keep housing costs under control while increasing the tax base.

The South Lakefront express bus routes are already pretty good, but as buses they really only attract existing residents and are less attractive to tourists or new residents moving in from leases urban areas. I've always been a big transit fan, even in high school growing up in a town of 560 in rural Oregon, but most people who move to Chicago who didn't grow up in New York or the few other places with ubiquitous transit may buy into using trains from the get-go, but it'll take a few years, if every, for them to start buying into the utility of even commuter-style express buses. But make BRT feel more like trains and I think buy-in would happen a lot faster
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2018, 2:52 PM
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Well I think it's as good a collection as the Pergamon Museum in Berlin, which is the most visited museum in Germany. I don't think that's considered a specialty museum if it's the most popular in Germany. It gets more than a million visitors a year, a bit less than the Getty Museum in LA. I doubt the Oriental Institute gets anywhere close to that. The Pergamon is right downtown and more convenient for tourists, that's why I think it would be alot better to have the Oriental Institute downtown as well.

It would be alot better with a good rail line to Hyde Park too! I've only taken the bus 3-4 times in Chicago. I don't like the buses, there always seems to be aggressive panhandlers and smelly people that haven't taken a bath in a month on the bus. I don't mind the trains, they seem alot better for some reason.

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I think part of it is that many tourists are skeptical of buses and resistant to take a $20 each way cab ride. Uber/Lyft have reduced that cost a bit, but it's still more than many people want to tack onto their budget for a specialty museum when there are great museums downtown. A South Lakefront 'L' line or a repurposing of Metra Electric combined with a bit of marketing would do wonders for the treasures in Hyde Park. A line that also served the North Lakefront to serve the Zoo and the Nature Museum would really help tourism and some commuters.

Alternatively, making the express buses a "real" type of BRT mimicking rail service would also probably accomplish 75% of the benefit, have more flexibility and cost maybe only 20% as much to implement. The South part would also really speed up the gentrification in Bronzeville, Douglas, and adjacent areas, which helps keep housing costs under control while increasing the tax base.

The South Lakefront express bus routes are already pretty good, but as buses they really only attract existing residents and are less attractive to tourists or new residents moving in from leases urban areas. I've always been a big transit fan, even in high school growing up in a town of 560 in rural Oregon, but most people who move to Chicago who didn't grow up in New York or the few other places with ubiquitous transit may buy into using trains from the get-go, but it'll take a few years, if every, for them to start buying into the utility of even commuter-style express buses. But make BRT feel more like trains and I think buy-in would happen a lot faster
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It would be alot better with a good rail line to Hyde Park too! I've only taken the bus 3-4 times in Chicago. I don't like the buses, there always seems to be aggressive panhandlers and smelly people that haven't taken a bath in a month on the bus. I don't mind the trains, they seem alot better for some reason.
The buses are fine, I ride them almost every day. The only problem is that they're often overcrowded...

But there isn't really any bus line super convenient to the Oriental Institute, other than the UChicago locals (171/172). The 192 and 2 express buses stop reasonably close but are only available during commute hours. The 6, 55 and 4 are both a 10 minute walk or so (and the 4 is super slow and the 55 requires a transfer; moreover both the 55 and 4 go through some areas tourists might feel uncomfortable in). The Metra UChicago stop is almost as far away as the 6, but it probably would still attract more tourists if it was fare integrated with the CTA.

Since that will probably never happen, I wonder if a new LSD express that goes down Woodlawn between 47th and 67th would be viable.
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The Root and The Trace both had very good articles about why Chicago gets the most attention about gun-related murders, even though it is not nearly the most violent city in America (the Trace has recent statistics to show where Chicago falls compared to other major cities in America):

Why Does Violence in Chicago Attract So Much Attention, Even Though It's Not the Murder Capital of The U.S.?
https://www.theroot.com/why-does-vio...ion-1828327783

https://www.thetrace.org/2018/04/hig...s-cities-list/

Also reinforces my personal belief that Ft Pfleger fans the flames of discord without really proposing any type of idea for change.
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Also reinforces my personal belief that Ft Pfleger fans the flames of discord without really proposing any type of idea for change.
Pfleger's security guard was arrested for carrying a gun at St. Sabina without a FOID on June 1, 2018. He preaches anti-violence yet he employs people who illegally carry guns.

Pfleger is such a hypocrite.
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I'm no lawyer but McDonald was strafing sideways on PCP when he was shot.
He was walking forward 10 feet away from an armed police officer with a gun, not sure how this is "strafing sideways". Luckily, we have video footage of the incident to show what really happened. Did the cops know he was on PCP? Is death without trial the new punishment for PCP?

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Pfleger's security guard was arrested for carrying a gun at St. Sabina without a FOID on June 1, 2018. He preaches anti-violence yet he employs people who illegally carry guns.

Pfleger is such a hypocrite.
Sure, he has his issues and absolutely deserves criticism. On the other hand, he is actually on the ground in these areas trying to make improvements, while you are on the internet complaining. What actions are you taking?
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at some point we will have to start talking about the mayoral election and whether all the good news on job growth and tech will be enough to save Rahm from being sunk by the stubborn homicide/crime issue
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