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Old Posted Feb 16, 2015, 4:32 PM
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Heee Heee, that heavy equipment looks like it barely fits on the lot. awkward. This is going to be one interesting build.
     
     
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Yeah, the mediocre ( ) height makes me not that excited to watch this one rise. I had no idea it was originally supposed to be 1,250 ft.... that would have definitely spiked the interest of many.

Anyway, the comment about this being over 100 ft taller than BOA's roof height gives it some promise. My fear is that it may be hidden by all of the other surrounding buildings nearest to the water. Oh well.

And yes, I do agree, we are just getting plain spoiled to be complaining about the height at this point. Like, I basically see One57 as a non factor

Either way, NYC has paid its dues, so everything going up now and in the future is well deserved.
     
     
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/re...-lab.html?_r=0

Midtown Condo, Brooklyn ‘Lab’


By MICHELLE HIGGINS
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/re...-lab.html?_r=0

Midtown Condo, Brooklyn ‘Lab’

By MICHELLE HIGGINS
FEB. 20, 2015


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In an industrial section of Sunset Park, Brooklyn, where the street ends at the waterfront, an unassuming door opens to a cold and cavernous warehouse. There, beyond a labyrinth of boxes and dark hallways, lies an unexpected piece of Midtown Manhattan: a full-scale mock-up of a $10 million apartment planned for 53W53, an ultraluxury residential tower being built next to the Museum of Modern Art.

Complete with a gleaming metal and glass facade, the prototype seems as if it had been sliced from a skyscraper and plunked down on the gritty warehouse floor. But prospective buyers won’t be touring this model unit. It was built as a laboratory of sorts, to work out any kinks presented by the unusual architectural elements of 53W53, an asymmetrical 1,050-foot high tower designed by Jean Nouvel that will taper as it rises like a shard of glass.

Thierry W. Despont, the French-born designer based in TriBeCa whose résumé includes the restoration of the Statue of Liberty and, currently, the interiors of the Woolworth Tower Residences, is crafting the interiors of the 140 condominiums for 53W53, which will rise at 53 West 53rd Street.

“Welcome to our playground,” he said, during a recent visit to the Brooklyn warehouse. “Many people do model apartments when they have a finished product. This is way beyond that.”

Unlike most buildings, which hide support columns within their interiors, 53W53 will have an exposed diagonal structural network, known as a diagrid, incorporated into a sloping glass facade. From the outside, this geometric pattern makes for a striking architectural statement. On the inside it causes windows to tilt inward, blinds to hang off-kilter, and columns to traverse exposures at a slant. Further complicating design matters is the tower’s tapering effect, which occurs at varying angles, shrinking each floor by roughly two feet as the building gets taller.

“Can you imagine?” said David Penick, the managing director at Hines, which is developing the tower with partners, Goldman Sachs and the Pontiac Land Group of Singapore. “As the walls taper up, you can’t even keep the same basic plan. You have to move a bathroom or a kitchen. It’s very complicated.”

Hence, the warehouse model, or “the lab,” as the design team refers to it.

Set on a plywood platform, the model unit approximates what a two-bedroom two-and-a-half-bath apartment on the 32nd floor will look like. The developers chose to build this particular unit because they felt it would allow them to examine most of the challenges posed by the building’s unusual design. At one end, stage lights shine on the exterior facade. At another, a carpenter’s workshop sits adjacent to the entryway to the model — a tall, thick walnut door with an onyx side panel backlit to give off a warm glow.

“This is going to be a bronze frame,” said Mr. Despont, describing the entryway. “This will be a little model of the building,” he added, pointing to the entry doorknob.

Inside the unit, a sprawling living and dining area, encased in glass, connects to a kitchen, which can be sectioned off with sliding pocket doors. Bedrooms are nicely split off the foyer. The en-suite master bath features dual vanities with round medicine cabinets and a deep soaking tub, lit from underneath to create a floating effect.

But like a stage set for a play, and unlike actual model units, many of the details are purely cosmetic. Whitewashed plywood stands in for high-end kitchen appliances. A wall in the master bath, splashed with paint for effect, represents one of three marbles that will adorn the space.

The point of the laboratory was more about function than finish, said Mr. Despont, who compared the process to haute couture. “Before a couturier does the real dress they wrap and stitch the models in muslin, pinching there and saying, ‘No, let’s loosen the pins in the back,’ ” he said. “That’s what we’re doing here.”

Movable columns that lean slightly askew were constructed to allow Mr. Despont and his design team to see how they might fall across a window and make tweaks wherever necessary to floor plans to capitalize on views and layouts. Automatic window shades were fitted with guide wires and calibrated to eliminate any gaps created at the base of angled windows — a technique borrowed from high-end yachts. The air-conditioning was concealed behind a detailed cornice to make sure it fit in the ceiling of the adjoining room.

Three samples of parquet flooring were laid out and stained to see which worked best next to the geometry of the windows. Herringbone was nixed in favor of straight, wide oak panels with a border running perpendicular and stained a slightly different hue.

“The challenge was to find a vocabulary that befit the architecture of Jean Nouvel,” Mr. Despont said. “I think we’ve been successful. You have all the function of a classically designed apartment in a very contemporary building.”

Decisions were also made about more subtle issues. So as not to interrupt the large windows, which measure 11 feet high and nearly 6 feet wide and cannot be opened, a ventilation system was designed for the adjacent wall panels. A recessed panel was rejected in favor of one that is flush with the wall. Similarly, ceiling lights designed to create a halo effect were placed in the kitchen and hallway. The original ones in the hallway, which revealed their light source, were rejected in favor of those placed in the kitchen that were more easily concealed.

“We thought the shower didn’t feel wide enough,” said Jerome S. Karr, a tall and broadly built real estate investment consultant for Goldman Sachs, stepping inside for effect. By moving the nozzles to the right and setting the body sprays into the wall, he said, “we basically picked up another two or two and a half inches in terms of the perception of depth — just by rearranging things.”

Fine-tuning such details, from the size of the shower to the location of power outlets, long before the sales process begins has become increasingly important to developers of high-end buildings. After all, with apartments at 53W53 expected to range from around $3 million to well above $50 million, buyers will expect flawlessness.

“We’ve worked on a lot of luxury apartments, and I think they’ve only gotten more sophisticated, more complicated as time goes by in terms of the finished details,” said Mr. Karr, noting that the industry has been slow to adopt the idea of building full-scale models for design purposes. “We should have been moving in this direction 10 years ago,” he added.

Lately, however, the idea has been catching on. For 135 East 79th Street, an Upper East Side development designed by William Sofield for the Brodsky Organization, prototypes of a living room, master bath and kitchen were built in a Brooklyn warehouse before the building went to market in 2012. Tweaks were made along the way to kitchen cabinets and bathroom vanities based on the mock-ups. Similarly, for 1 John Street, a development by Alloy Development and Monadnock Construction underway on the waterfront in Dumbo, Brooklyn, a kitchen and bathroom were constructed down the hall from Alloy’s studio, to test and perfect the finishes. In the kitchen, which features a double island, the design team tinkered with drawer hinges and appliance placement. The updated space is now being shown to prospective buyers.

Yet few have gone to the lengths of the team working on 53W53, with a model that replicates the exterior as well as the interior of a given unit. Excavation recently began on the actual building, yet construction on the warehouse model (which is, coincidentally, on 53rd Street in Brooklyn) began nearly a year ago. Once the model has served its purpose, it will be demolished.

“You can only do so much with renderings and models, and you’re always kind of imagining,” said Mr. Penick of Hines. “We said, let’s actually build it and go inside it and see what it actually looks like.”

The lab project, which Mr. Penick estimates cost $500,000 to $1 million, not only allowed the developers to test and perfect the interior design, it gave them some ideas about how they might showcase aspects of the building in the sales office.

“It’s a different perspective,” he said, admiring the sloping exterior glass and steel facade from the outside of the model as if gazing from the perch of a cloud outside the planned skyscraper.

And as anyone who has ever had a Lego set knows, it can be fun to tinker with models. “It’s like a huge toy,” Mr. Despont said. “I’d be tempted to do the whole building if I could.”
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Excuse me if this was answered years ago, but are the exposed structural elements going to be COR-TEN steel? Or will it perhaps be painted black like the JHC in Chicago?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2015, 10:54 PM
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I do hope they release more new renderings soon.

Here's a look at some of the older renders...

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I really like the way they have incorporated the beams into the interior design. This building is amazing!
     
     
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Nouvel is a complete bitch. His high-rise projects for Paris, the capital city of his homeland look like less than crap compared to this he designed for a rival city. A bitch, I'm telling you.
     
     
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Thats called NYC seduction. Something this place is too damn good at.
     
     
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Nouvel is a complete bitch. His high-rise projects for Paris, the capital city of his homeland look like less than crap compared to this he designed for a rival city. A bitch, I'm telling you.
I don't think NY and Paris are rivals. They are like siblings with an affinity for one another, just like NY and London. After all, they are the three best cities in the world.
     
     
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Just when I thought I couldn't love this building anymore…
     
     
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Those interior cross braces are bad-ass. The coffered bedroom ceiling is doubly bad-ass. This is a totally bad-ass building. And I mean that in a very good way.

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Love these exterior and interior renders! Far more than most of its taller brethren.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2015, 1:49 PM
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^ Yes, this tower is certainly the most unique of the group rising, as far as the interiors go. There is real choice to be made among the towers, and that's a good thing. Now if we can just see what Nordstrom has going...
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^ We are really lucky to witness so many great towers rising simultaneously. Every tower has its appeal ... I'm really curious about the final renderings of Nordstrom.
     
     
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Nouvel is a complete bitch. His high-rise projects for Paris, the capital city of his homeland look like less than crap compared to this he designed for a rival city. A bitch, I'm telling you.
Kohn Pedersen Fox are even worse in this regard. They've come up with stunning designs for Chinese cities, but their work in NYC is lackluster.
     
     
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Is under construction yet? When it will completed?
     
     
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http://nypost.com/2015/02/25/hitting...wers-of-power/

Hitting new heights: Midtown’s most coveted towers of power


By Adam Bonislawski
February 25, 2015


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New York real estate’s new number to beat? One hundred million dollars.

That was the closing price in December for an 11,000-square-foot duplex penthouse at Extell Development’s One57 condo building.

Handily setting the record for the city’s most expensive single-family-home sale, the deal served as a reminder of Midtown Manhattan’s place at the white-hot core of New York’s luxury housing market.

And with a veritable forest of 1,000-plus-foot-tall residential high-rises sprouting in the area, things are certain to stay scorching.

Indeed, the asking price for a new 21,504-square-foot triplex penthouse in the iconic Sony building at 550 Madison Ave. was just revealed as $150 million. For one apartment.

The rise is inevitable, notes Steven Rutter, director of Stribling Marketing Associates: “If you look at New York City as the center of the universe — Midtown is the center of New York City.”

A trend of superluxury residential high-rises like including 432 Park Avenue are sprouting in Midtown are drawing the world’s wealthiest buyers to NYC.
Along with its 1,004-foot-high, 94-unit One57, Extell has started construction on the 1,775-foot-tall Nordstrom Tower, just down the way at 225 W. 57th St. Macklowe Properties, meanwhile, is putting the finishing touches on its 1,396-foot-high, 104-unit 432 Park Avenue condo tower, where a penthouse is in contract for $95 million. A few blocks south, the 1,058-foot-tall, Jean Nouvel-designed 53W53 tower is prepping for a spring sales launch.

And back on the 57th Street corridor, JDS Development Group and Property Markets Group are at work on 111 West 57th Street, which is slated to be one of the tallest condo buildings in the world, at 1,421 feet high, and also one of the skinniest.

Developer ambition, starchitect power and global demand have turned Midtown into one of the most coveted residential neighborhoods in the city, and, by extension, the world.

“In the next two months, I’m off to São Paulo, Beijing, Hong Kong, Delhi, Rome and Paris, and they all want to buy in New York,” says Lee Summers, senior global real estate advisor at Sotheby’s.

.....“These sites just don’t come into existence overnight,” says Anthony Mannarino, executive vice president for Extell. “There were a number of parcels we had to assemble. We had to move tenants, relocate businesses and so forth. But [Extell president] Gary [Barnett] had a vision that if you could assemble the sites and assemble the air rights, you could have unprecedented views of Central Park.”

Extell wasn’t alone. In fact, in the case of its follow-up, super high-rise Nordstrom Tower, the company’s vision ran smack against another developer’s lofty Midtown dreams. Vornado Realty Trust’s original plans for its 950-foot-high condo tower at 220 Central Park South threatened to obstruct the Nordstrom building’s all-important park views. In an effort to block the development, Barnett and Extell purchased the lease to a parking garage Vornado needed to tear down in order to build.

The two parties eventually settled, with Vornado paying Extell $194 million for the garage and related rights, and both developers agreeing to shift their buildings slightly so each would have a view onto Central Park.

Extell wasn’t the only developer with a bone to pick with 220 CPS. As author Michael Gross reported last year, the Zeckendorfs were none too pleased with how similar initial renderings for the Robert A.M. Stern-designed building were to their 15 CPW, also created by Stern.

The brothers, meanwhile, have their own Stern-designed, 15 CPW copycat underway at 520 Park Avenue.

The limestone-clad, 54-story, 31-unit condo tower is scheduled for completion in 2017 and includes a 12,394-square-foot triplex penthouse priced at $130 million, which could shatter One57’s $100.5 million record.
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Great article NYguy , just have one question has Tower Verre increased by 8 Feet? The article said: A few blocks south, the 1,058-foot-tall, Jean Nouvel-designed 53W53 tower, just asking.
     
     
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