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Old Posted Mar 20, 2020, 8:45 PM
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Least gentrified mid to large sized cities in North America?

On here we talk about gentrification or at least it's mentioned regularly. On the other end of the spectrum, what are North America's least gentrified mid to large sized cities?
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2020, 8:49 PM
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That's a good one come to think of it.
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Memphis? Fresno?
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Pittsburgh definitely still fits the bill.
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most of chicago remains un-gentrified.

a tale of two cities through and through.

blue is higher income
yellow is middle income
orange is lower income

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Controversial on urbanist discussion boards, but almost certainly true.
Though the CBD and some major corridors are well past tipping point, I'd have to agree with this sentiment on the whole. If I had to wager a guess, ex Michigan industrial cities of all sizes are among some of the least gentrified in the U.S.
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Hamilton or Winnipeg are probably the largest Canadian examples. Even then there is a lot of “gentrification” happening in them.
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most of chicago remains un-gentrified.

a tale of two cities through and through.
Pete Saunders has described Chicago as 1/3 San Francisco, 2/3 Detroit
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Pete Saunders has described Chicago as 1/3 San Francisco, 2/3 Detroit
more like 1/3 san francisco, 1/3 detroit, and 1/3 guadalajara
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Pete Saunders has described Chicago as 1/3 San Francisco, 2/3 Detroit

I thought it was 1/2 Miami and 1/2 Canada.
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Pittsburgh definitely still fits the bill.
Depends on the neighborhood. East end, shadyside, Lawrenceville, parts of east liberty and friendship are gentrified. Lots of other neighborhoods your right are not. Also Pittsburgh has a gentrified downtown. Most of it.

But a lot of the non gentrified parts of Pittsburgh are kind of awesome. Their like old timey neighborhoods and the gentrifying is starting there like Millvale and sharpsburg.
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Depends on the neighborhood. East end, shadyside, Lawrenceville, parts of east liberty and friendship are gentrified. Lots of other neighborhoods your right are not. Also Pittsburgh has a gentrified downtown. Most of it.

But a lot of the non gentrified parts of Pittsburgh are kind of awesome. Their like old timey neighborhoods and the gentrifying is starting there like Millvale and sharpsburg.
The vast, vast majority of the City of Pittsburgh is not gentrified though. Surrounding urban boroughs are not gentrified either.

Lawrenceville and now East Liberty área have seen gentrification in the sense of how we’re defining it these days, with businesses and younger, wealthier residents moving in, raising rents, and displacing longtime residents. Those are really the only two neighborhoods among 90 that have seen gentrification in the recent past. And i don’t think a “gentrified downtown” is even a thing. Downtown Pittsburgh hardly had any residents aside from senior citizen apartments for many decades until very recently. No one has had to move out because no one was there. Apartment/condo conversions and higher end new res construction did not displace existing residents. Downtown has become much nicer and more active, but that’s not gentrification.

Shadyside has always been a mix of very wealthy and college students. It remains that way to this day. There is no gentrification there.

I agree about the non-gentrified parts being cool. As I said, it’s really most of the city neighborhoods and blue-collar boroughs in the core. There’s a remaining authenticity there... those places just need some tlc. Sharpsburg and Millvale have both seen a lot of investment recently. Given their intact-ness and close proximity to Lawrenceville/East End, I imagine both will gentrify significantly.
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most of chicago remains un-gentrified.

a tale of two cities through and through.

blue is higher income
yellow is middle income
orange is lower income

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source: https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news...aign=Web-Share

Just indicative of a massive wealth divide in the city. Lots of income inequality.
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Just indicative of a massive wealth divide in the city. Lots of income inequality.
If I am reading that correctly it puts Galewood as "Low Income"on the same par as Austin and the West side.
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