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Originally Posted by jtown,man
Or we "hate"(I hate no one) you because you guys make comments like this. Not only that, we all know you guys think that we secretly all want to live there but don't because we can't afford it.
Some people would never want to live in California. This might be impossible for some of yall to understand, but it's true. And no, it's not just because we are all poor or conservatives.
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Yet when we acknowledge your point and say "San Francisco isn't for everyone," we get trolled for being "elitists" and all sorts of other negative things by the usual SF antagonists. "How dare you not remake your city to be everything to everyone, what a FAILURE!"
It's similar to when we correctly note that the city has high prices because of strong competition among people who still want to live and work here, we're told we are "fine with outrageous costs" and "don't care about problems x, y, and z," etc.
When we can't even acknowledge facts like these about our own city, lest we get trolled by the usual suspects from faraway, a lot of us get annoyed. Some people seem intent on only pushing a relentlessly negative and intellectually dishonest agenda against SF, usually rooted in partisan politics and culture war. It's even more annoying when it's coming from some momma's boy who has never worked a 60+ hour week or paid his own damn rent (not talking about you here).
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Originally Posted by Pedestrian
SF "progressives" see it as a matter of a balance between housing and business. As a general principle, they don't like business or commercial towers so they'd rather limit those than boost housing construction. I think the consensus here would be to build more housing but both ways of dealing with the issue are attempts to do the same thing: increase the supply of housing RELATIVE TO the supply of jobs attracting people to the city.
Yes, there are too many restrictions on housing constuction. But Prop. 13 (not to be confused with the older property tax measure) doesn't further restrict housing so much as restrict office building.
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Minor correction: we're talking here about San Francisco's Proposition E; this year's statewide
Prop 13 would have paid for school construction and much-needed maintenance around the state. It appears to have failed.