NEW YORK | 50 Hudson Yards (504 W. 34th) | 1,011 FT | 79 FLOORS - Page 17

UTEPman · #**321** Posted **Dec 9, 2016, 8:26 PM**

Eh. Nothing noteworthy, but not a "bad" design either. Just another box in a sea of boxes....

Dac150 · #**322** Posted **Dec 10, 2016, 4:34 PM**

This tower will fit into the fabric of the area very well - a quality and an appropriate addition.

jsbrook · #**323** Posted **Dec 10, 2016, 6:34 PM**

A bit blah. But I like the white stone. A bit of a break for the eye from all the glass going up in this area.

Mr Saturn64 · #**324** Posted **Dec 11, 2016, 12:27 AM**

Agreed. Glass is a nice thing, but it doesn't look good if they're all built like that.

NYguy · #**325** Posted **Dec 16, 2016, 3:02 AM**

^ They won't be, and this isn't an all glass building.

http://therealdeal.com/2016/12/15/re...ds-assemblage/

Related secures final piece of land for 50 Hudson Yards assemblage
Firm paying $61M in rent for 75-year ground lease of 503-505 West 33rd

December 15, 2016

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The Related Companies closed on a 75-year ground lease on the final piece of land it needs to develop 50 Hudson Yards, the largest building planned for the developer’s Far West Side megaproject.

The firm, which is partnering with Oxford Properties Group on the development, will pay $60.8 million in rent for 503-505 West 33rd Street, the Commercial Observer reported. The property — currently home to a 8,945-square-foot building — is owned by 503 West 33rd Street Associates, an entity controlled by William D’Alessandro.

Related has spent about $200 million over the past seven years gathering the properties it needs to construct the 2.9 million-square-foot building in Hudson Yards. It spent $152.3 million to acquire 427 10th Avenue in January, and acquired a five-story manufacturing building at 507-511 West 33rd Street for $30 million in August 2015.

Earlier this month, asset manager BlackRock inked a preliminary agreement to lease 850,000 square feet at the building for 20 years. Related and Oxford TRData LogoTINY have tapped Foster + Partners to design the building, and construction is expected to kick off in 2017.

chris08876 · #**326** Posted **Dec 17, 2016, 4:56 PM**

Current Site: That McDonald's needs to be demo'd so this can rise.

Credit: Walpole

JSsocal · #**327** Posted **Dec 19, 2016, 2:27 AM**

I'm surprised at the almost warm reception this one's getting, given foster's 2wtc recent reassessment as a boring shaft building with a neat hat by some on this forum. Some restraint in the greater hudson yards area is nice, but we're looking at 4-5 real big boxy buildings (a la water street in FiDi) in the pipeline for the neighborhood, more if you include some like manhattan west which strattle the line. It's starting to look like 6th ave here. This is one of the last blank slates in manhattan and it'd be nice if we got a couple more real inspiring designs.

NYguy · #**328** Posted **Dec 19, 2016, 12:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

Current Site: That McDonald's needs to be demo'd so this can rise.

Demo permits were filed in November.

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Originally Posted by JSsocal

I'm surprised at the almost warm reception this one's getting, given foster's 2wtc recent reassessment as a boring shaft building with a neat hat by some on this forum.

Well you shouldn't be. This is a tower that will be defined and judged by it's design, rather than for the hat it wears. I'm confident Foster's use of materials here will produce a quality design. Is this tower meant to be a defining skyline icon? No, it is not, despite the supertall status. In will be in a virtual neighborhood of supertall buildings. What this is showing is the rise of the skyscraper ceiling in New York. 900 ft is the new 700 ft, meaning as tall as this tower is, it will become something of a standard among the big office buildings moving forward. Build 30 Rock or MetLife today, they would likely be supertalls. Which brings us back to the design. It's a touch of Park Avenue mixed in with the financial district. And that's no coincidence. Expect more signings as this moves forward.

chris08876 · #**329** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 12:16 AM**

Very high resolution renderings: Click twice to zoom.

1) http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/co...dited_logo.jpg (Click me)

2) http://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/co...ted-Oxford.jpg (Click me)

Submariner · #**330** Posted **Dec 22, 2016, 12:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by JSsocal

I'm surprised at the almost warm reception this one's getting, given foster's 2wtc recent reassessment as a boring shaft building with a neat hat by some on this forum. Some restraint in the greater hudson yards area is nice, but we're looking at 4-5 real big boxy buildings (a la water street in FiDi) in the pipeline for the neighborhood, more if you include some like manhattan west which strattle the line. It's starting to look like 6th ave here. This is one of the last blank slates in manhattan and it'd be nice if we got a couple more real inspiring designs.

There are at least three towers on this site, including the tallest one of them all, sporting rather unconventional designs.

Not every tower has to have some jaw dropping cut or curvature to it. 4 WTC isn't an overt show stopper, but it's clad with very high quality materials which more than make up for it's restrained design. Not much that came out of the 60's - 90's used anything besides bargain basement cladding or hood-ass interior fixtures. That's why so many of the midtown and downtown boxes are so god-awful; cheap, dark and dreary.

If Foster is on board, you can sleep easy knowing that he is going to put forth something tasteful and subtly luxurious.

NYguy · #**331** Posted **Dec 28, 2016, 4:34 AM**

Won't be too long before this site is cleared, and yet another massive tower begins to rise in Hudson Yards...

DECEMBER 27, 2016

NYguy · #**332** Posted **Jan 3, 2017, 3:58 PM**

Keeping track of filings...

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=02

NYguy · #**333** Posted **Jan 4, 2017, 4:34 AM**

http://therealdeal.com/2017/01/03/re...ffice-project/

Related’s $4B tower at 50 Hudson Yards will be NYC’s most expensive office project
2.8M sf building will cost about $1,407 psf

January 03, 2017
By Rich Bockmann

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The Related Companies’ 50 Hudson Yards is expected to be the most expensive office building ever constructed in the city, with an all-in price tag of nearly $4 billion.

Related and its partner Oxford Properties Group peg the all-in development cost (including land acquisition, construction and soft-expenses) for the 2.8 million-square-foot tower at $3.94 billion, the partners disclosed in an application with the New York City Industrial Development Agency.

Related is seeking permission to make fixed payments in lieu of property taxes that can fluctuate from year to year, and to forego paying the mortgage recording tax on the property – forms of assistance the IDA has offered since 2006 to encourage development in the Hudson Yards area. It’s not clear how much they would pay under such an arrangement.

A representative for Related declined to comment.

The nearly $4 billion price tag works out to about $1,407 per square foot for the Foster + Partners-designed tower (this figure is based on the 2.8 million square feet Related filed on forms with the IDA; the developer has said the project is 2.9 million square feet gross). The $1,407 per square foot cost is not far off from the $1,230 per square foot Tishman Speyer calculated it would cost to develop the $3.2 billion “Spiral,” which is being built across the street. As of now, One World Trade Center is the most expensive office building in the country with a cost of about $3.8 billion.

Related is still looking to lock down a $2.56 billion construction loan for 50 Hudson Yards, which the developer announced last month will be anchored by financial firm BlackRock.

The developer announced in December that the asset manager had signed a letter of intent to lease 850,000 square feet across 15 floors in the building, which is expected to open its doors in 2022.

Looking forward to the day when I can stand on 34th Street between 50 Hudson and the Spiral, and look up at both massive towers above.

Submariner · #**334** Posted **Jan 4, 2017, 6:27 PM**

An entire block of garbage...gone...how wonderful.

NYguy · #**335** Posted **Jan 4, 2017, 8:25 PM**

^ Imagine if they had tried to save that McDonalds, Rockefeller Center style...

Submariner · #**336** Posted **Jan 4, 2017, 9:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

^ Imagine if they had tried to save that McDonalds, Rockefeller Center style...

"New Yorkers are being pushed out and bullied by big businesses! Even McDonald's!" - Gale Brewer

NYguy · #**337** Posted **Jan 17, 2017, 4:25 PM**

Permits from today...01/17/2017

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=02

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CIVIL WORK FILED IN CONJUNCTION WITH NEW BUILDING AS SHOWN ON DRAWINGS FILED HEREWITH.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=03

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SOE WORK FILED IN CONJUNCTION WITH NEW BUILDING AS SHOWN ON DRAWINGS

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=04

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PLUMBING WORK FILED IN CONJUNCTION WITH NEW BUILDING AS SHOWN ON DRAWINGS

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=05

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MECHANICAL WORK FILED IN CONJUNCTION WITH NEW BUILDING

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=06

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STRUCTURAL WORK FILED IN CONJUNCTION WITH NEW BUILDING

NYguy · #**338** Posted **Feb 10, 2017, 2:12 PM**

Wow. Even this one could be filled before we start to see it rise...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...on-yards-tower

Morgan Stanley to Consider Moving to New Hudson Yards Skyscraper: Sources

by Hugh Son and David M Levitt
February 9, 2017

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Morgan Stanley is considering moving into a new skyscraper at the Hudson Yards development on Manhattan’s far west side, potentially sharing a building with BlackRock Inc., according to two people with knowledge of the deliberations.

Morgan Stanley is looking at acquiring the roughly 2 million square feet (185,800 square meters) of space still available at 50 Hudson Yards, the people said, asking not to be identified because the search is confidential. The tower is among a number of potential sites, a decision isn’t imminent, and the investment bank could ultimately stay put, one of the people said. The talks began last year, the other one said.

“We routinely review potential options for upgrading our workspaces,” said Sarah Higgins, a spokeswoman for the New York-based bank. “As we consider plans to continue to upgrade our current office space, we are also in the very early stages of evaluating potential alternatives. We anticipate a lengthy timeline before any decisions are made.”

BlackRock last year signed a letter of intent to lease 850,000 square feet across 15 floors of the building, which may be completed in 2022. The tower, designed by the Foster + Partners architecture firm, will span an entire city block at 33rd Street and 10th Avenue.

CityGuy87 · #**339** Posted **Feb 10, 2017, 3:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Wow. Even this one could be filled before we start to see it rise...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...on-yards-tower

Morgan Stanley to Consider Moving to New Hudson Yards Skyscraper: Sources

by Hugh Son and David M Levitt
February 9, 2017

I'd rather they anchor 3 Hudson Blvd or The Spiral, those projects are more in need of tenants that this one.

NYguy · #**340** Posted **Feb 10, 2017, 6:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by CityGuy87

I'd rather they anchor 3 Hudson Blvd or The Spiral, those projects are more in need of tenants that this one.

They're looking to "purchase" 2 msf in the tower, which is what Related has pretty much been doing with its HY towers, at a discount. I don't know that Tishman could or would do that with the Spiral. Related has the many residential towers its putting up to fall back on. And 3 Hudson doesn't have 2 msf..