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Old Posted Mar 20, 2024, 7:27 PM
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Looks like Gilbane is proposing to construct student housing to replace the Walgreens at Apache/Rural:

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Old Posted Mar 20, 2024, 8:07 PM
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That must include the Moxy hotel to be 3.8 acres. That whole intersection is growing up fast!
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2024, 8:51 PM
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It says "maintaining" does that mean they are going to build around it on the surface lot?
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2024, 9:32 PM
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That must include the Moxy hotel to be 3.8 acres. That whole intersection is growing up fast!
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It says "maintaining" does that mean they are going to build around it on the surface lot?
Good point on the acreage, I used an acreage estimator tool and got right about 3.8 acres by including Moxy. Also, the other red sign is on the south side of Moxy off Spence, so it makes sense that this encompasses both Walgreens and Moxy.

Not sure about the "maintaining," but that is interesting. I think that Walgreens is just about 12,500 square feet, using the same area estimator tool, so that would make sense as well. Seems like best of both worlds.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2024, 9:34 PM
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Also, demo is currently ongoing around the cornet with both the Sleep Inn and the Super 8. This intersection will definitely be fun with the before and after Google Street View in a few more years.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2024, 10:14 PM
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Also saw the zoning sign on the SW corner of Apache and Rural for the Vine. Based on the acreage listed (1.1 acres) I think that one is going to include the Chevron gas station and foodmart as well as the Vine. Looks set to be a 21 story high rise.
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Old Posted Mar 20, 2024, 10:53 PM
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That's very strange, I would have thought that Moxy hotel was still serviceable and didn't see it being torn down at all, but it is 50 years old.

That CVS looks way, way too new to be replaced. My reading of "maintaining" the space is that they're going to build around it.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2024, 3:24 PM
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https://www.tempe.gov/home/showdocum...63531801126950

Great project for that corner...but the neighborhood is already up in arms over the "color" scheme as well as the setbacks....well see what happens with this one....
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2024, 3:31 PM
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Great project for that corner...but the neighborhood is already up in arms over the "color" scheme as well as the setbacks....well see what happens with this one....
I like the colors, but it's shame they had to reduce the amount of blue. If there's any aspect of housing that should be completely unregulated, it's color.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2024, 7:47 AM
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They're not regulating the color per se, it's about heat absorption.

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... staff expressed concerns that the large amount of dark colored metal would increase heat absorption and cause significant stress on plants located adjacent to the building.
A building shouldn't scorch neighbors or pedestrians even if you approach design review from a strong property rights perspective. It also shouldn't scorch required landscaping from the opposite perspective.
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The Motel 8 on the north side of Apache is being demolished. So it looks like this project along with the one directly across the street next to Pete's Fish and Chips will start around the same time! Good news!

Another economic black eye to Tempe though.....Northern Trust has quietly removed it's signage from the Discovery Center and has put up all of its space in its first building (150k Sqft.) for sublease. If you recall, they had an agreement with Tempe to develop three buildings and to bring so many jobs to Tempe. Looks like that didn't happen as they only developed two buildings. The second building is partially occupied by TruWest Credit Union and Chase Manhattan. It will also probably prolong the rest of the Discovery Center development timeline. Here is the listing....

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/2190...e-AZ/17193402/

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...empe/24096759/
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They're not regulating the color per se, it's about heat absorption.

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A building shouldn't scorch neighbors or pedestrians even if you approach design review from a strong property rights perspective. It also shouldn't scorch required landscaping from the opposite perspective.
That would be true, except that dark colors don't do this. Light colors reflect significant light and heat onto surrounding areas - dark colors don't. dark materials with mass (like concrete) *will* release heat at night once ambient temps drop below material temp, but released heat won't come anywhere close to scorching plants or people. metal doesn't have a lot of mass and is a good conductor, so it cools down quickly at night. they are definitely trying to control color.
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