HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #601  
Old Posted Nov 20, 2009, 8:34 PM
nordique's Avatar
nordique nordique is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 263


boy does something need to happen with kapyong.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #602  
Old Posted Nov 20, 2009, 9:16 PM
hexrae's Avatar
hexrae hexrae is offline
Armchair urbanist
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 922
Speaking of which...
Quote:

Activists protest delay over Kapyong housing


By: Mary Agnes Welch

20/11/2009 1:00 AM | Comments: 16

The vacant houses at Kapyong barracks sparked a war of words Thursday, and today they'll prompt a protest in front of Treasury Board president Vic Toews' office.

"They are a glaring example of the federal government's inaction on housing," said Ellen Kruger, spokesperson for the Right to Housing Coalition. "It's shameful."

Well over 100 homes, known as the permanent married quarters or PMQs, have stood empty for five years, ever since soldiers vacated the base on Kenaston Boulevard. Housing advocates have long demanded the homes be rented out to needy families instead of being left to deteriorate, mired in bureaucratic delays and now caught up in a First Nations land claim.

Toews, who has argued First Nations have no claim on Kapyong, said in an email statement Thursday that a court challenge launched by seven First Nations effectively bars Ottawa from taking action on the houses.

"The Government of Canada cannot act in a manner that is inconsistent with the decision that is under appeal," said Toews.

And he said it's the First Nations who are holding up a plan to make use of the vacant houses.

"As for whether the government of Canada can provide the housing to the First Nations claimants, by moving it off the site, we have asked the First Nations to agree to that, and to provide the housing to them free of charge if they paid the moving costs. They have refused to amend their claim to allow that to occur," wrote Toews.

Winnipeg South Centre Liberal MP Anita Neville said the issue calls for cool-headed negotiation instead of inflammatory language. Housing advocates agreed, and lawyer Norm Boudreau, who acts for the bands, said Toews' arguments are bunk.

In late September, a federal court judge ruled that Ottawa had failed to properly consult with First Nations and had to do so before selling Kapyong. Ottawa recently appealed that ruling, further delaying progress on Kapyong, said Boudreau.

The ruling only applies to the working part of the base -- the warehouses and drill halls and offices. The houses haven't started to move through Ottawa's long surplus land disposal process, which would trigger consultations. So, Ottawa can do anything it likes with the homes, including renting them out, said Boudreau.

Peguis Chief Glenn Hudson, whose band is one of the seven First Nations claiming Kapyong, said the issue of moving the homes is a red herring. The bands don't want the homes to be moved onto reserves -- it's too costly. Instead, they want to help develop Kapyong.

"We're looking for the best opportunity for all Winnipeggers and for our people," said Hudson.

Frustrated with the morass, housing advocates are staging another picket today at 3 p.m. on Kenaston. And, they're heading to Toews constituency office in Steinbach in hopes of meeting with him.

The coalition estimates the houses have cost taxpayers $7.5 million the since they were left vacant, including maintenance and lost rent.

maryagnes.welch@freepress.mb.ca
__________________
[Insert profound statement here]
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #603  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2009, 2:57 PM
Only The Lonely..'s Avatar
Only The Lonely.. Only The Lonely.. is offline
Portage & Main 50 below
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 4,871
IKEA to anchor high-end retail complex
Sod turned for huge Seasons of Tuxedo development


By: Bartley Kives




21/11/2009 7:50 AM | Comments: 0
Print E–mail Share ThisReport Error DORSKY HODGSON PARRISH YUE ARCHITECTS Enlarge Image

Seasons of Tuxedo, shown in drawings, is touted as ‘unique’ shopping centre.
ALTHOUGH Winnipeg won't be getting a domed stadium, the city can look forward to a mall beneath some form of dome.

The latest site design for the IKEA-led Sea­sons of Tuxedo development diverges slightly from the big-box norm, as a high-concept mall with 150,000 square feet of space protected from the elements is planned for the north side of Sterling Lyon Parkway.

The mall is part of a 1.5-million-square-foot commercial development that formally got underway at a Friday-morning sod-turning ceremony attended by Premier Greg Selinger, Mayor Sam Katz and co-developers IKEA Can­ada and Fairweather Properties.

Michael Nozick, Fairweather's president, said the shopping centre is being designed with landscaping and other features to minimize the effects of a Winnipeg winter.

"If I used the word 'dome,' that would be a little bit of an exaggeration. That's close, (as) it will be out of the effects of winter," he said.

Just like David Asper's Creswin Properties, which is trying to assemble tenants for an up­scale mall called The Elms at Polo Park, Fair­weather wants to create some form of shopping destination that will be unique in the Winnipeg market and draw in tourists from across Mani­toba and neighbouring states and provinces.

"This won't be just a strip mall. This will be something far more exciting," Nozick said. "It will be a form of mall unique to anywhere. I don't think it's in North America, what we're planning."

But he also claimed Seasons of Tuxedo is not competing directly with The Elms, a smaller project whose success hinges on Creswin's abil­ity to land higher-end department stores as an­chor tenants.

"If they can get that upper-end retail seg­ment to come to Winnipeg, that's tremendous­ly beneficial for our city. We're not talking to Nordstrom or Nieman Marcus. They're not on our agenda at all," Nozick said.

"I don't see us as competitive. Their project has its issues and they'll have to deal with those. We have IKEA."

The 350,000-square-foot IKEA store that will serve as the anchor tenant at Seasons of Tux­edo is now slated to open no earlier than 2012, Nozick said. Retailers in other components of the development may open sooner, he added.

He declined to name any specific retailers, but pledged to announce some names in 2010.

Mayor Katz, however, has one name on his wish list.

"It's called Justice. They make children's clothing," said the father of two.

Water and sewer work on the Seasons of Tux­edo development will begin next week, followed by roadwork in 2010.
__________________
WINNIPEG: Home of Canada's first skyscraper!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #604  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2009, 5:37 PM
Keng Keng is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 214
Quote:
Originally Posted by nordique View Post


boy does something need to happen with kapyong.

You are so right, and Wow! That aerial shot really puts the scale of this development into perspective.
__________________
Ken

Photo Gallery: kengillespie.com
My Photo Blog
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #605  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2009, 6:34 PM
1ajs's Avatar
1ajs 1ajs is offline
ʇɥƃıuʞ -*ʞpʇ*-
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: lynn lake
Posts: 25,833
bleh thats going to kill st james polo area
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #606  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2009, 9:31 PM
nordique's Avatar
nordique nordique is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 263
i like the fact that there is a herd of bison (fort whyte alive) grazing right next door to this massive megalopolis shopping power centre that is kenaston blvd. i'm not sure any city can say they have that? very manitoba!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #607  
Old Posted Nov 21, 2009, 10:16 PM
Keng Keng is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 214
Quote:
Originally Posted by nordique View Post
i like the fact that there is a herd of bison (fort whyte alive) grazing right next door to this massive megalopolis shopping power centre that is kenaston blvd. i'm not sure any city can say they have that? very manitoba!
Not to mention the free roaming deer population, if they only new what was in store for them.
__________________
Ken

Photo Gallery: kengillespie.com
My Photo Blog
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #608  
Old Posted Nov 23, 2009, 12:08 PM
Spocket's Avatar
Spocket Spocket is offline
Back from the dead
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ajs View Post
bleh thats going to kill st james polo area
Actually , it will probably have the opposite effect. Instead of having just one super-node of retail in the Polo Park area , the whole of Kenaston is being turned into a node in itself. A crowd attracts a crowd.
__________________
Giving you a reason to drink and drive since 1975.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #609  
Old Posted Nov 23, 2009, 4:36 PM
hexrae's Avatar
hexrae hexrae is offline
Armchair urbanist
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 922
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spocket View Post
Actually , it will probably have the opposite effect. Instead of having just one super-node of retail in the Polo Park area , the whole of Kenaston is being turned into a node in itself. A crowd attracts a crowd.
I hope so, it'd be nice for these new developments to build and expand the retail industry, rather than suck the life out of existing areas. I understand the latter will occur in some form, but hopefully not to overly detrimental effects.
__________________
[Insert profound statement here]
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #610  
Old Posted Nov 23, 2009, 9:28 PM
thurmas's Avatar
thurmas thurmas is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Posts: 7,595
anyone know if transit service will be improved in this area when the development occurs I for one am baffled that there are so few #78 buses that go out to kenaston and there are none during weekends.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #611  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2009, 12:56 AM
newflyer's Avatar
newflyer newflyer is offline
Capitalist
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5,086
Quote:
Originally Posted by thurmas View Post
anyone know if transit service will be improved in this area when the development occurs I for one am baffled that there are so few #78 buses that go out to kenaston and there are none during weekends.
They are planning a bus loop within the development, so I would think there will be more than one bus servicing this major development.
__________________
Check out my city at
http://www.allwinnipeg.com **More than Ever**
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #612  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2009, 3:19 AM
hexrae's Avatar
hexrae hexrae is offline
Armchair urbanist
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 922
The 78 is a horrible service imo. There exists a need for an express through the area, along with a route servicing the local neighborhood. The 78 seems to service both.
__________________
[Insert profound statement here]
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #613  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2009, 4:36 AM
drew's Avatar
drew drew is offline
the first stamp is free
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hippyville, Winnipeg
Posts: 7,985
Quote:
Originally Posted by thurmas View Post
anyone know if transit service will be improved in this area when the development occurs I for one am baffled that there are so few #78 buses that go out to kenaston and there are none during weekends.
You're really surprised?

The only people riding those buses are some of the 9-5 workers along that small industrial stretch of Kenaston from Sterling Lyon to the Power centre retail.

Most of the people that shop along this stretch during the weekend and in the evenings wouldn't be caught dead on a transit bus, and I would assume the same is true of most of the people working these stores.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #614  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2009, 5:28 AM
Kinguni's Avatar
Kinguni Kinguni is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 1,413
Quote:
Originally Posted by thurmas View Post
anyone know if transit service will be improved in this area when the development occurs I for one am baffled that there are so few #78 buses that go out to kenaston and there are none during weekends.
On the City's website it states that all day service will be provided by the 78. Like that bus doesn't do enough zigging and zagging already. I'm of the opinion that a cross town route should be as direct as possible and smaller routes should feed off it. Currently it's the only bus planned, no bus loop, just bus stops.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #615  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2009, 7:02 AM
1ajs's Avatar
1ajs 1ajs is offline
ʇɥƃıuʞ -*ʞpʇ*-
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: lynn lake
Posts: 25,833
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spocket View Post
Actually , it will probably have the opposite effect. Instead of having just one super-node of retail in the Polo Park area , the whole of Kenaston is being turned into a node in itself. A crowd attracts a crowd.
polo at least i can take a bus and be there in 20
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #616  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2009, 3:03 PM
Mininari Mininari is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Victoria (formerly Port Moody, then Winnipeg)
Posts: 2,441
Quote:
Originally Posted by hexrae View Post
The 78 is a horrible service imo. There exists a need for an express through the area, along with a route servicing the local neighborhood. The 78 seems to service both.
Low-density sprawling retail developments are never going to garner much transit ridership, save some of the 9 - 5 crowd. Now, if they were building considerable amounts of higher-density residential with this project, then maybe.

Besides, who takes the bus to ikea? We're all too cheap to pay for delivery!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #617  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2009, 3:39 PM
1ajs's Avatar
1ajs 1ajs is offline
ʇɥƃıuʞ -*ʞpʇ*-
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: lynn lake
Posts: 25,833
pfft why would i go to ikea when i can get real furniture for free
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #618  
Old Posted Nov 24, 2009, 11:12 PM
h0twired's Avatar
h0twired h0twired is offline
Dynamic Positivity!
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 2,914
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ajs View Post
pfft why would i go to ikea when i can get real furniture for free


Where would one get free "real" furniture?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #619  
Old Posted Nov 25, 2009, 4:15 AM
Spocket's Avatar
Spocket Spocket is offline
Back from the dead
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 3,505
^Beavers.
Beavers make their own homes. They're master carpenters and man , if you get a beaver to make a chair for you , it's the last chair you'll ever need.
__________________
Giving you a reason to drink and drive since 1975.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #620  
Old Posted Nov 25, 2009, 11:52 PM
SpongeG's Avatar
SpongeG SpongeG is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Coquitlam
Posts: 39,106
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ajs View Post
bleh thats going to kill st james polo area
can't winnipeg have more than one shopping area? its big enough isn't it?

most stores open multiple locations usually
__________________
belowitall
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 8:07 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.