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Global Transportation Hub (Regina)

I see WPG has their own thread so too should Regina.

This has grown beyond the CPR Intermodal facility... Very exciting future for Regina..the spinoffs from the new development is quite staggering..Once you have something of the scale of Loblaws, other companies will put Regina on the short list..I am not sure how much land the City has secured from the RM of Sherwood, but i hope its more then the 3200 acres that was said to be needed. [update]....Originally, the city applied to the RM for six areas of land -- three were approved and three were denied. The city began negotiating with the RM for Area E and F.

"The reason why we needed decisions made on these two (areas) is because they directly effect the Global Transportation Hub," said Fiacco. "We will continue to negotiate in good faith on the third parcel of land."
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some links regarding the GTH.

Saskatchewan's Global Transportation Hub. (Government site)

Regina growth, also click avison young outlook

More cash for growing transport facility

please post anything else you have...

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I wonder if any plans are in place to improve access to the airport for the transportation hub. I used to work at the airport and when I was late would cut in the back down 13th ave which is all gravel road. I may be thinking way to far ahead here but maybe an alternate access other than Regina ave for transport vehicles may be an idea.
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So basically there will be three hubs: Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg. Each having the same level of importance as the other.
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So basically there will be three hubs: Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg. Each having the same level of importance as the other.
I wonder how significant winnipegs "CentrePort development hub" will be considering their mayor didn't even mention it in their 2009 State of the city address.

Mayor Katz 2009 State of the City Address.
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I wonder how significant winnipegs "CentrePort development hub" will be considering their mayor didn't even mention it in their 2009 State of the city address.

Mayor Katz 2009 State of the City Address.
I wonder how significant Regina's will be since both Edmonton and Winnipeg have access to Ocean ports and have road infrastructure going north and south to the US, and Regina has no access to Ocean ports or significant road access to the US in place.

Winnipeg and Edmonton are better suited over Regina, hands down.

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I wonder how significant winnipegs "CentrePort development hub" will be considering their mayor didn't even mention it in their 2009 State of the city address.

Mayor Katz 2009 State of the City Address.

It will be massive .. it was mentioned in the federal budget, with very significant federal dollars and was proclaimed the highest priority by the province. With that said the city and Mayor Katz has fully endorced and signed off on Centreport development plan last year.

This thing will be moving ahead full steam this year, with hundreds of millions of dollars in development occuring. With the recent annoucements made in the federal budget Winnipeg will be the major inland port.
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It will be massive .. it was mentioned in the federal budget, with very significant federal dollars and was proclaimed the highest priority by the province. With that said the city and Mayor Katz has fully endorced and signed off on Centreport development plan last year.

This thing will be moving ahead full steam this year, with hundreds of millions of dollars in development occuring. With the recent annoucements made in the federal budget Winnipeg will be the major inland port.
As far as a link to the United States i cant see Winnipeg having a dramatic advantage over Regina..in fact i think Regina may have the advantage...and Regina is strategically in a better position to serve Western Canada then WPG. Regarding USA, Regina/Moose Jaw already act as a container shipping hub as we have a direct rail line to Twin Cities,Chicago,Kanasas City and MEXICO) . (see map)

according to the map Regina mayhave the USA advantage as well as the Port of Churchill, Duluth Minnesota is only a few hours further then transit from WPG. It looks like Winnipeg has no direct rail to Chicago?? ..I say Regina is the smart choice for "THE" Hub...(my mistake..i see WPG rail is routed east towards Duluth then Chicago).......


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It will be massive .. it was mentioned in the federal budget, with very significant federal dollars and was proclaimed the highest priority by the province. With that said the city and Mayor Katz has fully endorced and signed off on Centreport development plan last year.

This thing will be moving ahead full steam this year, with hundreds of millions of dollars in development occuring. With the recent annoucements made in the federal budget Winnipeg will be the major inland port.
I'm not looking to start a war here. I am curious if any tenants are interested in Winnipeg's inland port. I know Sask went ahead and are now calling it a global transportation hub. What does that even mean. It is all words and names. We have the Loblaws distribution centre in planning and thats it... but I am curious to hear if any company has commited to anything in Winnipeg.

Side note: Lived in Regina 21 years... now in alberta for my job for the last couple years ...... Used to spend alot of time in Winnipeg and I'd take Winnipeg over anywhere in alberta anyday
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I wonder if any plans are in place to improve access to the airport for the transportation hub. I used to work at the airport and when I was late would cut in the back down 13th ave which is all gravel road. I may be thinking way to far ahead here but maybe an alternate access other than Regina ave for transport vehicles may be an idea.
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I dont think Regina Ave access will be all that practical..Pinkie Road will be the best for truckers. With Harbor Landing in the SW i think the city will discourage heavy truck traffic on the Lewvan as the retail environment grows

I believe Sandra Schmirler Way off 13th Ave would offer an excellent route for cargo traffic to and from the airport, as it is already there... When you look at Google Earth there is a large area that could be accomodated for future air cargo facilities...a taxi way could easily come off the main runway to cargowarehouses/unloading facilities in the vacant area i refer to. (assume airport owns it)

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Loblaw announces plans to build a distribution centre


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REGINA -- Regina's dream of becoming a "global transportation hub" took another step closer to reality as Loblaw Companies Ltd. announced plans Tuesday to build a $200-million distribution centre about five km west of the city.

The 500,000-square-foot building is the first phase of a one-million-square-foot, $350-million warehouse and distribution facility Loblaw plans to build on the site.

The distribution centre is expected to employ 750 people within two years and as many as 1,500 by 2017, Loblaw officials said.
Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall stands in a canola field approximately 8 kilometers west of the Lewvan turnoff on Dewdney avenue where Loblaws, Canada's largest food distributor, will build a distribution facility.

Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall stands in a canola field approximately 8 kilometers west of the Lewvan turnoff on Dewdney avenue where Loblaws, Canada's largest food distributor, will build a distribution facility.

Premier Brad Wall said the announcement marks the beginning of the development of "one of Western Canada's most significant transportation and logistics facilities."

"Right now, all you can see behind us is a beautiful field of canola,'' Wall told a news conference Wednesday.

"Two years from now, there will be half-a-million square foot building -- equivalent to five-and-a-half football fields. It will be the precursor to ... a one-million-square-foot facility.''

The Loblaw announcement comes hard on the heels of confirmation earlier this month that Canadian Pacific is proceeding with an intermodal facility (IMF) west of the city. The IMF is part of a $93-million infrastructure project, which received $27 million from the federal government in December.

The infrastructure project includes upgrading of Pinkie Road to connect the Trans-Canada Highway and Highway 11 and improving connections to the City of Regina road network.

Jane Marshall, executive vice-president of real estate for Loblaw Companies, said Loblaw chose to build the distribution centre in Regina for several reasons.

"Loblaw Companies is Canada's largest food distributor. We have 50 million square feet of retail space across the county; 15 million of that retail space is located in Western Canada,'' she said.

Loblaw is currently "revitalizing" its retail store line-up, including sprucing up its Real Canadian Superstore locations and converting many of its Extra Foods locations into discount No Frills stores, Marshall said.

"This facility will serve those stores, primarily in Saskatchewan and Manitoba in the first phase. But, as we construct the balance of the facility (to) just under one million square feet, it will serve all of our stores in Western Canada.''

Being CP's largest customer, Loblaw also wanted to be close to the intermodal facility, which would help Loblaw "optimize our service levels to our stores" and "minimize our environmental impact," she said.

Peter McMahon, executive vice-president of supply chain and information technology for Loblaw, agreed Regina was the "ideal location" for the distribution centre, especially after the announcement of CP's intermodal facility

"It really helps us with our strategy in transport of taking more and more product off the road, (dealing) with the escalating price of fuel ... and dealing with the environment impact.''

Initially, the facility will hire 500 employees in its first year of operation. But McMahon said the distribution centre will "very quickly'' expand to one million square feet and distribute about three million cases of product per week.

"It's a big deal. It's a lot of trucks. It's a lot of volume going out of the distribution centre.''

With an estimated 1,400 trucks per week using the facility, road and highways in the area will have to be upgraded to accommodate the additional traffic.

John Law, deputy minister of Highways and Infrastructure, said the province will be responsible for "basic transportation infrastructure," including upgrading roads and highways serving the intermodal facility and distribution centre, which will cost around $45 million.

Mayor Pat Fiacco said the Loblaw distribution centre is the first of many similar projects that will be located close to CP's intermodal facility.

"Eventually," Fiacco said, "we will see more warehouses, distribution centres, ... services and retail operations, all in an area much larger than Regina's current industrial park.''


Fiacco said the development is part of a longer-term plan to turn Regina into a global distribution hub. "The site will serve as an inland port ... where goods will move by road and rail. Easy access to the airport provides another means to ship goods around the world.

"Regina will become a central transportation hub."

Larry Hiles, president and CEO of Regina Regional Economic Development Authority, said securing Loblaw as an anchor tenant provides the critical mass the intermodal facility-transportation hub needs to get off the ground

"This is a $200-million investment, We will easily see over a $1 billion (invested in the area) by the time we're half built out'' in five or six years, Hiles said.

While initially used for distribution and warehousing, Hiles said assembly and manufacturing operations will locate in the area, which is three times the size of Ross Industrial Park.

"The companies that want to get into those areas want to be near where the distribution hubs are. We see this happening in stages, this (Loblaw announcement) being the first positive step.''
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I believe Sandra Schmirler Way off 13th Ave would offer an excellent route for cargo traffic to and from the airport, as it is already there... When you look at Google Earth there is a large area that could be accomodated for future air cargo facilities...a taxi way could easily come off the main runway to cargowarehouses/unloading facilities in the vacant area i refer to. (assume airport owns it)
I agree. Most of the current cargo activity occurs on Airport road right off Sandra Schmirler Way. A good connection on 13th ave heading west would seem the way to go.
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Personaly, I feel that this project is a disaster waiting to happen, a white elephant. This is because just about every major community along a rail line or major highway in Western Canada believes that an Inland Port is going to be their saviour. When in fact the ones that have been developed in Canada, like Prince George, have not come close to the development that was intially predicated. Regina has been sold an empty basket of goods and has fallen for it.

Reminds me of the Simpson's monorail episode.
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Personaly, I feel that this project is a disaster waiting to happen, a white elephant. This is because just about every major community along a rail line or major highway in Western Canada believes that an Inland Port is going to be their saviour. When in fact the ones that have been developed in Canada, like Prince George, have not come close to the development that was intially predicated. Regina has been sold an empty basket of goods and has fallen for it.

Reminds me of the Simpson's monorail episode.

Regina is already a compact city and its bursting at the seams

The CPR relocation and the Loblaws distribution center for western Canada are already the major anchors for the new GTH.

but the Simpson's comparison is food for thought when it comes too many new ideas.

The container traffic into and out of southern Saskatchewan would surprise people....Regina is ready to play spoiler when it comes to other cities inland ports.

I dont think Regina will become an "Ogdenville"..nor will Winnipegs become a ""Springfield".....in the end they may compliment each others...but i do love competition.
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Regina is already a compact city and its bursting at the seams

The CPR relocation and the Loblaws distribution center for western Canada are already the major anchors for the new GTH.
I am not sure if you realize this .. but both Calgary and Winnipeg already both have large Loblaws disribution centres, among many others. Saskatoon also has a Loblaws distribution centre ..... It won't make or break any city. Winnipeg is already a major hub of many retail outlets, but I don't feel this has or will influece any Winnipeg's or any other city's roll as a inland port. Storage of food is not relivant in terms of an inland port.
http://www.loblaw.ca/en/empl_lcl_distribution.html

Winnipeg is the largest inland distribution centre in Western Canada period.. and it is not so much focusing on more local retail distribution, which is already a major part of the local transportation fabric of the city. It is more about an efficient inland port with manufacturing added value connected to the major transportation corridor. Well over a billion dollars of infrastructure is in process of being implimented or will be developed over the next couple years to enhance Winnipeg's status as a major inland port.

I don't see Regina and Winnipeg really competing at all.
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I am not sure if you realize this .. but both Calgary and Winnipeg already both have large Loblaws disribution centres, among many others. Saskatoon also has a Loblaws distribution centre ..... It won't make or break any city. Winnipeg is already a major hub of many retail outlets, but I don't feel this has or will influece any Winnipeg's or any other city's roll as a inland port. Storage of food is not relivant in terms of an inland port.
http://www.loblaw.ca/en/empl_lcl_distribution.html

Winnipeg is the largest inland distribution centre in Western Canada period.. and it is not so much focusing on more local retail distribution, which is already a major part of the local transportation fabric of the city. It is more about an efficient inland port with manufacturing added value connected to the major transportation corridor. Well over a billion dollars of infrastructure is in process of being implimented or will be developed over the next couple years to enhance Winnipeg's status as a major inland port.

I don't see Regina and Winnipeg really competing at all.

Regina = Loblaws consolidation.

phase 1 of the Regina Loblaws Distribution Center will service Manitoba and Saskatchewan.


Phase 2 of the Loblaws Distribution Center will service all of western Canada

Saskatoons is closing...I question the future of the Alberta, Manitoba, B.C facilities......maybe they will be downsized or dare i say phased out entirely??


Jane Marshall, executive vice-president of real estate for Loblaw Companies, said Loblaw chose to build the distribution centre in Regina for several reasons.

"Loblaw Companies is Canada's largest food distributor. We have 50 million square feet of retail space across the county; 15 million of that retail space is located in Western Canada,'' she said.

Loblaw is currently "revitalizing" its retail store line-up, including sprucing up its Real Canadian Superstore locations and converting many of its Extra Foods locations into discount No Frills stores, Marshall said.

"This facility will serve those stores, primarily in Saskatchewan and Manitoba in the first phase. But, as we construct the balance of the facility (to) just under one million square feet, it will serve all of our stores in Western Canada.''

Being CP's largest customer, Loblaw also wanted to be close to the intermodal facility, which would help Loblaw "optimize our service levels to our stores" and "minimize our environmental impact," she said.

Peter McMahon, executive vice-president of supply chain and information technology for Loblaw, agreed Regina was the "ideal location" for the distribution centre, especially after the announcement of CP's intermodal facility

"It really helps us with our strategy in transport of taking more and more product off the road, (dealing) with the escalating price of fuel ... and dealing with the environment impact.''

Initially, the facility will hire 500 employees in its first year of operation. But McMahon said the distribution centre will "very quickly'' expand to one million square feet and distribute about three million cases of product per week.

"It's a big deal. It's a lot of trucks. It's a lot of volume going out of the distribution centre.''

With an estimated 1,400 trucks per week using the facility, road and highways in the area will have to be upgraded to accommodate the additional traffic.

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the next 10 years will be an exciting period for Regina...

did i hear correctly that Federated a Co-op Distribution Center is relocating from Saskatoon???..maybe I am wrong , but In January 2008 FCL announced it will be spending $1.9 billion over the next 4 years to expand its refinery to be able to process 130,000 barrels of oil a day..................................................and now there is serious talk of a new domed stadium...

very cool
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Rdid i hear correctly that Federated a Co-op Distribution Center is relocating from Saskatoon???..maybe I am wrong , but In January 2008 FCL announced it will be spending $1.9 billion over the next 4 years to expand its refinery to be able to process 130,000 barrels of oil a day.
I think you might be confused. The Federated Co-op Distribution Center is for their Food and Hardware stores. The refinery doesn't have much to do with those side of things. You are right about the huge expansion there though.
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theres more then just a inland port happening its a hub for the provinces for goods going in and out and will help crea jobs in the local economys
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theres more then just a inland port happening its a hub for the provinces for goods going in and out and will help crea jobs in the local economys
It will definitely create some jobs and may have a small impact on the local economy, but there is no guarantee that it will have anything more then a minimal impact. It could, in a worse case scenario, become a cost borne by taxpayers due to ongoing maintanence costs.

There is alot of hype around this project and experience tells me that, when something is hyped; it usually is a dud. Take NEW Coke for one of many many many flops. We just need to fully aware of all the possibilities, good and bad.
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Hmmm, interesting topic. Below is a current map from the North American Supercorridor Coalition (NASCO) site which shows the 4 major North-South economic corridors (Pacific, Canamex, Mid-Cont and Eastern Seaboard) and the west > east corridors (Asia-Pacific Gateway) originating from the two BC ports and SeaTac, that NASCO is promoting the development of, and lobbying for.

Keep in mind the US also has other established east-west corridors, particulalry from Long Beach,CA.

Note the blue cities are the major sea/river ports. The red cities are the major Inland Ports and are members off the North American Inland Ports Network (NAIPN) - which NASCO founded in 2003.

Note that Winnipeg is the only major Canadian Inland Port being promoted at this time by NASCO/NAIPN.

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