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Old Posted Feb 16, 2007, 1:06 AM
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i like the tower and good for JC.
Agreed. Any perceived rivalry between JC and NYC is downright silly; JC's new skyline compliments Manhattan like a pearl necklace around the neck of a beautiful woman.
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That bridge looks like the Bay bridge out in San Fran. I used to live near it. I think it would of been cool. The JC pictures are good. I can tell they weren't taken recently. The new 9/11 memorial at Liberty state park wasn't started yet. Which reminds me, i was there in early january before the cold weather kicked in. The construction site for this memorial is still closed off. Anyone have a clue when this will be finished...

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Old Posted Feb 23, 2007, 11:40 PM
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That bridge looks like the Bay bridge out in San
Fran. I used to live near it. I think it would of been cool. The JC pictures of
good. I can tell they weren't taken recently. The new 9/11 memorial at
Liberty state park wasn't started yet. Which reminds me, i was there in early
january before the cold weather kicked in. The construction site for this
memorial is still closed off. Anyone have a clue when this will be finished...

Don't know when that memorial will be completed, but from this shot you get
a view of 7 WTC, and indication of when it could have been taken...

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Heres the main Jersey city thread on construction. Amazing all the work going on.
     
     
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Don't know when that memorial will be completed, but from this shot you get
a view of 7 WTC, and indication of when it could have been taken...

I think they started the memorial last spring. Can't remember. Speaking of the development around exchange place and Newport areas, i tried to drive around there last summer. What a mess, lots of closed off areas with construction going. I finally managed to get to Newport mall. Must be a pain for the people who work there, unless they take path. Its going to look great when completed. Jersey City will make a nice alter ego to the NYC Skyline when this is complete. Even now the JC skyline looks pretty cool from the NYC side. Coming back from a Yankee game in Sept. at night, the view from the ferry looking towards JC looked awesome. Allot of the Buildings in JC have lighted roofs. Nice touch by those designers..
     
     
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Even now the JC skyline looks pretty cool from the NYC side. Coming back from a Yankee game in Sept. at night, the view from the ferry looking towards JC looked awesome. Allot of the Buildings in JC have lighted roofs. Nice touch by those designers..
That's the best thing about the JC development - there's now something to look at from the NY side. Very camera friendly...
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i must say that i agree that alot of people dont even know that jc is jc when they look at it...they think its bklyn/queens or even newark...jc does have an awesome skyline!!!its better than 50 to 60 percent of all other american cities
     
     
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i must say that i agree that alot of people dont even know that jc is jc when they look at it...they think its bklyn/queens or even newark...jc does have an awesome skyline!!!its better than 50 to 60 percent of all other american cities
Yeah, its getting better all the time...
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Living the high life in Jersey City



Jersey City's skyline is growing.


July 15, 2007
By JENNIFER V. HUGHES


JERSEY CITY -- Audrey Ng, 3½, is eager to show off her new home, even though there are still contractors painting the walls pale blue and there are wires hanging from the ceiling, awaiting light fixtures.

"Hey, come on, guys!" she shouted as she escorted her father, Darryl, and her mother, Jane, carrying little sister, Bridget, 17 months.

While Audrey is most thrilled about the pink princess ceiling fan in her room, the truly spectacular features of the two-bedroom condominium are the floor-to-ceiling windows, which run the length of one wall, revealing the stunning Manhattan skyline.

"You can't get a view like that in New York. In New York, you get the million-dollar view of New Jersey," said Darryl Ng. The family bought the condo even though it is smaller than the apartment they were renting nearby.

The Ng family plan to move into their new condominium at the south tower of the Shore Condominium Residences at Newport this weekend, joining about 11,000 other residents who make this section of Jersey City their home.

Twenty years ago, Newport was essentially an abandoned rail yard. Today on the 400 acres, there are nine high-rise rental apartment buildings, two completed condominium buildings, the 1.2 million-square-foot Newport Centre Mall and 5 million square feet of office space -- with tenants such as J.P. Morgan Chase. There are about a dozen retail shops and restaurants, a playground, a health club and several private schools.

"In 1986, everyone thought this was a dumb idea," said Jamie LeFrak, the principal of the LeFrak Organization, which created Newport. The first apartments were marketed as a safe, affordable alternative to New York City, he said, adding that one of the big selling points of the early buildings was that they were gated.

"Now we're competing on the luxury market," he said, noting that the Shore condos have amenities such as a hot tub room with panoramic views of New York City.

Condominiums in the south tower of the Shorecondos started going to contract in September 2005, and 200 units sold in 100 days, said Lynette Hamara, sales director for Coldwell Banker in Jersey City.

The north Shore tower started selling about a year ago, and while it is only two-thirds complete, it's about 90 percent sold.

Hamara said new residents range wildly from young singles to empty nesters who long to be closer to the city. Many are couples with young children. Residents come from as near as Hoboken and as far away as Cranbury and Manalapan, where Manhattan workers seek a shorter commute.

Buyers tell Hamara that Newport's biggest draw is its proximity to New York City and the variety of public transportation. PATH trains depart from the Pavonia Newport station for both midtown and the World Trade Center. NJ Transit's Light Rail passes through Newport, giving riders options north and south. There is also a ferry terminal where boats depart for midtown Manhattan.

Newport was developed jointly between the LeFrak Organization and Melvin Simon & Associates, which built the Newport Centre Mall in the mid 1980s. LeFrak said his grandfather and father looked at Newport as "a blank canvas."

"They liked the idea of creating their own city from scratch," he said.

One of the biggest initial problems was purchasing the land from the many different owners, most of whom were banks who had foreclosed on railroad property. After that, there were issues of environmental remediation. For example, the company paid about $20 million to remove a deposit of coal tar left behind on several plots of land. In total, the company has spent about $2.5 billion to develop Newport.

Sonia Maldonado, who heads the Newport Waterfront Association, a residents group, said Newport in one respect has become a victim of its own success. She noted that so many people have moved in recently that mass transit has gotten more crowded.

In 1995, the annual ridership out of the Pavonia/Newport station was 8,759, according to Port Authority statistics. By 2000, that number had jumped to 12,841 and in the first six months of 2007 it is already at 15,502.

The organization is hosting a meeting in the fall to address the issue.

Maldonado said residents are also anxiously awaiting a new park and playground that is planned for the northern edge of Newport. As the area becomes more attractive to families, she said more schools -- public and private -- will be needed. Many residents are frustrated with how long it is taking for a planned waterfront walkway from Newport to Hoboken to be completed.

Maldonado came to the area a decade ago, moving out of her co-op at Park Avenue and 39th Street in Manhattan. She planned to stay only about a year when she first moved in to a rental apartment at the George Washington building.

"At that time there was a lot of grass," she said, laughing. "It was no longer just the tracks -- there were some buildings, but it was still different than it is today."

Maldonado said she liked the quiet lifestyle of Newport.

"It was calmer than Manhattan," she said. "It was very, very safe -- I loved that."

For many years she worked in Manhattan; recently she's taken a job as a tax professional down the street. Not long ago she moved to another Newport rental building, The East Hampton.

"There is nothing quite as nice as sitting on a bench on the waterfront and just relaxing ... watching the ships sail through on the Hudson," she said.

Ng is not only a Newport resident, he's also a business owner as the proprietor of a shop, Canis Minor, which is around the corner from the Shore condos and carries dog-related items, from food to swanky outfits. He has just opened a similar store in Tribeca called Pet Bar South, and like many Newport residents, he said the quick commute was a big factor in his decision to buy.

"That was by far the number one reason -- there is no other place that is so close to all those transportation hubs," he said.

Another reason was price. Prices in Newport are comparable to other developments on the Jersey side of the Hudson River, said Scott Selleck, broker and principal of New Jersey Gold Coast Real Estate. And, of course, the prices pale in comparison with Manhattan, where the average price for condos and co-ops tops $1 million.

While the vast majority of residents in Newport are renters, LeFrak said ownership is key to Newport's survival. For one, he said owners are important because they are more likely to be voters, and local politicians pay more heed to an area when constituents live there. Secondly, he said surveys have found that 80 percent of renters who leave do so to buy elsewhere.

LeFrak said he wants to persuade them to stay, and is planning accordingly.

"We will be bringing in a lot of family-oriented stuff," he said, noting that a skating rink should be opened soon and child-friendly shops and stores are in the works.

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Newport by the numbers

• 3,476 units of rental apartments, all of which are occupied. There are 659 condos -- all of which are sold with another 220 to be finished by the end of the year.

• 4,500 more residential units are planned for the next 10 years.

• Studio apartments rent for about $1,700, while a two-bedroom can go for $2,500 to $3,700.

• A one-bedroom condo at the Shore Condominium Residences sells for about $500,000, while a three-bedroom duplex costs about $846,000. The most expensive unit in the development sold for about $1.7 million.

• Maintenance fees for Shore condos range from about $430 to $1,100, and service charges, which are payments in lieu of taxes, cost between $600 and $1,300.

Source: the LeFrak Organization
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2007, 11:34 AM
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Goldman Sachs Gets Deal for 2nd Jersey City Tower

By CHARLES V. BAGLI
July 19, 2007

The Goldman Sachs Group received approval yesterday to build its second tower on the Jersey City waterfront, a 30-story, $560 million office building that would house employees moving across the river from New York and accommodate the future growth of the firm.

The approval came in a vote by the Municipal Council to grant a property tax break worth roughly $4 million a year for the project, which had already been approved by the planning department. Goldman said it would probably begin construction late in 2009, about the time it completes a $2.4 billion headquarters one mile to the east, at Battery Park City in Lower Manhattan.

The deal in Jersey City comes less than two years after Goldman promised to retain 9,000 employees and add 4,000 in the coming years in Manhattan, in return for one of the most generous subsidy packages in New York City ever granted by state and city officials.

The new Goldman tower in Jersey City would hold about 3,500 workers and add to that city’s rapidly growing skyline.

But it raises questions about the wisdom of granting corporations tax breaks in return for jobs. Critics of the practice contend that Goldman Sachs, one of the most profitable investment banks on Wall Street, may be unable to fulfill all its promises to New York and New Jersey.

Goldman’s first tower in Jersey City, at 30 Hudson Street, is only 60 percent full today and could accommodate 3,000 more workers.

“Goldman has perfected the art of grabbing subsidies on both sides of the river,” said Bettina Damiani, director of Good Jobs New York, a group that conducts research on economic development. “We can only hope that elected officials can get equally good at ensuring that Goldman lives up to its job promises. Too often, taxpayers get stuck with the tab and don’t get the jobs that were promised.”

Peter Rose, a spokesman for Goldman Sachs, said the company was planning for the future and had made a substantial investment in both Lower Manhattan and Jersey City. The property tax abatement that Goldman Sachs just received in Jersey City, he said, is available to any company moving there.

“We have to look at the economics of where we put a building,” Mr. Rose said. “We may be a profitable firm. But that doesn’t mean we don’t watch our expenses. This is a win-win for Jersey City and Goldman Sachs.”

The firm says it has 9,000 to 10,000 employees in New York and 3,662 in Jersey City.

New York City officials expressed mixed opinions. “The great news is that Goldman Sachs is continuing to grow,” said Robert C. Lieber, president of New York City’s Economic Development Corporation. But, he said, the commitments Goldman made in New York “have consequences if they’re not upheld.”


The tax break for Goldman provoked a lively debate yesterday at the Municipal Council’s meeting.

It was generally acknowledged that Goldman was a model corporate citizen. But the Rev. Kevin Agee, pastor of the Calvary C.M.E. Church, said it was “morally reprehensible to allocate tax abatements to folks who are billionaires and millionaires while the poor, and even the middle class, gets shafted.”

Elnora Watson, president of the Urban League of Hudson County, said she was grateful that Goldman Sachs donated $7,500 to her group last year, but she opposed the abatement. She said the Council should work harder to ensure that jobs go to local residents, a sentiment also expressed by other speakers.

Raj Patel, who owns a travel agency in Jersey City, said that he pays full property taxes and an additional $960 a year for a special improvement district. “These people are getting freebies,” Mr. Patel said. “It doesn’t make sense.”

But the president of the Municipal Council, Mariano Vega Jr., said that Goldman Sachs had done a lot for Jersey City since it opened its first tower about four years ago. Aside from the jobs and tax revenues, he said, the company has contributed to programs for affordable housing, recreation and education. And he said that Jersey City needed to provide incentives for companies if it wanted to compete with Lower Manhattan, Brooklyn and other locations.

The Council ultimately voted 6 to 1 in favor of the deal.

Viola Richardson, the sole council member to oppose it, said that she was not against Goldman Sachs, but that it was no longer necessary to provide incentives to get companies to move to the waterfront.

Goldman Sachs has long been a downtown stalwart. In 1999, the company bought three development sites at the former Colgate toothpaste factory in Jersey City. Five years later, it built 30 Hudson, at 42 stories the tallest building in the state, after bargaining for tax breaks worth more than $160 million.

Goldman Sachs initially planned to move equity sales and trading operations to the tower from Manhattan. But executives rebelled against the plan, and the company has been slow to fill the tower, which cost $1.3 billion to build.

A short time later, Goldman announced plans to build a 42-story headquarters on a site in Battery Park City, which would have a view of its Jersey City operations.

Grateful for the commitment downtown after the attack on the World Trade Center, state and city officials offered the company $1 billion in tax-free bonds and about $30 million in tax breaks.

But after snags in the negotiations, state and city officials enhanced their offer by providing $1.65 billion in bonds and $140 million in tax breaks and cash, as well as a sharp reduction, worth an estimated $9 million a year, in Goldman’s payments in lieu of taxes.
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I am sure that most people when they visit New York and look across to JC they probably just think its still part of NYC. Hell, when I visited there 3 years ago, I flew into Newark and it all felt the same to me, Newark, NYC, whatever. But Im sure if I were to live there I would recognize all the differences and how shitty NJ is, haha, jk. Do people in NYC really not like NJ, or is that just a stereotype?
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I am sure that most people when they visit New York and look across to JC they probably just think its still part of NYC. Hell, when I visited there 3 years ago, I flew into Newark and it all felt the same to me, Newark, NYC, whatever. But Im sure if I were to live there I would recognize all the differences and how shitty NJ is, haha, jk. Do people in NYC really not like NJ, or is that just a stereotype?
I think it's myth. Countless New Yorkers make the jump over the river every year to the suburbs of New Jersey. I have always found New Jersey to be a really nice place outside of about a 15 mile stretch bordering the NJ Turnpike. I guess all those oil refineries and power plants along the NJTP are why their gas is cheaper than everywhere else lol.
     
     
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I am sure that most people when they visit New York and look across to JC they probably just think its still part of NYC. Hell, when I visited there 3 years ago, I flew into Newark and it all felt the same to me, Newark, NYC, whatever. But Im sure if I were to live there I would recognize all the differences and how shitty NJ is, haha, jk. Do people in NYC really not like NJ, or is that just a stereotype?
New Jersey is green and pretty once you get west of the Garden State Parkway. I am a happy NY transplant. Here 15 years and not looking back. I work in the city, but love coming home to NJ every night.

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