HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #21  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 6:06 AM
1ajs's Avatar
1ajs 1ajs is offline
ʇɥƃıuʞ -*ʞpʇ*-
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: lynn lake
Posts: 25,881
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCF View Post
Fourteen projects just downtown isn't enough?
thats just downtown ok... what about the whole city
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #22  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 7:54 AM
CCF's Avatar
CCF CCF is offline
Canadian Urbanite
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Across Canada
Posts: 3,492
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby View Post
Most of those are great projects and get my seal approval.
The Diocese project, is no doubt the most exciting. Although I think the Leader building will do a lot too. But having 1200 new residents, in what looks to be upscale housing, will no doubt be a huge boost for downtown. The preservation of the existing buildings is an obvious bonus as they are both beautiful architecturally and important parts of our history. I'm hoping this projects gets underway soon.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #23  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 9:02 AM
vid's Avatar
vid vid is offline
I am a typical
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Thunder Bay
Posts: 41,172
This is kinda like a few weeks ago, someone made a montage of boarded up buildings here, and the city council have Youtube remove it.

The first step to solving a problem is admitting it exists.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #24  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 12:18 PM
Migs Migs is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Regina, Sk, Canada
Posts: 3,774
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby View Post
I have been consistent and balanced in my posts and it is council lack of this consistency that bothers me and I state it.
You keep on telling yourself that. Your posts are more predictable than the sun rising in the morning.
Quote:
I strongly believe in the 3T's for urban prosperity, what do you believe ?
I could list your 3t's but it would likely get me banned from this site. Personally i believe in a city that is prosperous, proactive, and is a safe place to raise a family. One such as this one..........

History

Regina was established in 1882 when it became clear that Edgar Dewdney, the lieutenant-governor of the North-West Territories, eschewed the previously established and considered Battleford, Qu'Appelle and Fort Qu'Appelle as the territorial headquarters; these were widely considered more amiable locations for what was anticipated would be a major city, situated as they were in amply watered and treed rolling parklands whereas "Pile-of-Bones," as the site was then called, was in the midst of arid and featureless grassland.


First house in Regina, 1882.Dewdney had acquired land adjacent to the route of the future CPR line at Pile-of-Bones, which was distinguished only by collections of bison bones near a small spring run-off creek, some few kilometres downstream from its origin in the midst of what are now wheat fields. This probably constituted an improper private interest of Dewdney's in promoting the site of Pile-of-Bones as the territorial headquarters and was a national scandal at the time, but until 1896 when responsible government was accomplished, the territorial lieutenant-governor and council governed by fiat and there was little legitimate means of challenging such decisions.

Regina attained national prominence in 1885 during the North-West Rebellion despite the fact that the Canadian Pacific Railway had still only reached the formerly designated territorial headquarters of Troy (Qu'Appelle) some thirty miles to the east, which became the marshalling point to the northwest for troops arriving from eastern Canada by train. Subsequently, the rebellion's leader, Louis Riel, was tried and hanged in Regina — giving the infant community increased and, at the time, not unwelcome national attention in connection with a figure of significance in Canadian history.


Scarth Street, circa 1915.Regina was incorporated as a city on June 19, 1903 and was proclaimed the capital of the province of Saskatchewan on May 23, 1906 by the first provincial government, led by Premier Walter Scott. On June 30 1912, a tornado known as the Regina Cyclone hit the community, levelling much of the young city's business district, killing 28 people and injuring hundreds, making it Canada's deadliest tornado.

Regina's early history was of rapid growth which continued until the Great Depression began in 1929, at which point Saskatchewan had been the third province of Canada in both population and economic indicators. Thereafter, Saskatchewan never recovered its early promise and Regina's growth slowed and at times reversed. From the 1930s onward, Regina became a centre of considerable political activism and experiment as its people sought to adjust to new, reduced economic realities.

Events of national importance which occurred in Regina include the trial of Louis Riel (followed by Riel's execution) in July 1885; the Regina Manifesto, 1933; the Regina Riot, 1 July 1935 and the Saskatchewan Doctors' Strike in 1961 when medical doctors withheld their services in response to the introduction of Medicare.


Geography and climate

Downtown Regina in winterRegina has a semi-arid continental climate (Koppen climate classification BSk) with warm, somewhat moist summers and cold, dry winters. Annual precipitation is 390 mm (17 inches), and is heaviest from June through August with June being the wettest month at 75 millimetres.

The average daily temperature for the year is 2.8°C (37°F). The lowest temperature ever recorded was -50.0 °C (-58 °F) on January 1, 1885 while the highest recorded temperature was 43.3 °C (109.9 °F) on July 5, 1937.


East Regina NeighbourhoodThe city is situated on a broad, flat and originally treeless, though fertile plain. There is an abundance of parks and greenspaces: all of its trees, shrubs and other plants were hand-planted and Regina's considerable beauty is entirely man-made. Reginans make a virtue of the infelicitous climate and in winter outdoor rinks abound and cross-country skiing are major recreational activities, especially in Wascana Centre; Wascana Lake, the venue for summer boating activities, is regularly cleared of snow in winter for skating.

As in other prairie cities, American elms were planted in front yards in residential neighbourhoods and on boulevards along major traffic arteries and are the dominant species in the urban forest. The streetscape is now endangered by Dutch elm disease, which has spread through North America from the eastern seaboard and has now reached the Canadian prairies; for the time being it is controlled by intense pest management programs and species not susceptible to the disease are being planted.


Industry and resources

Oil and natural gas, potash, kaolin, sodium sulphite and bentonite contribute a great part of Regina and area's economy. The farm and agricultural component is still a significant part of the economy but it is no longer the major driver of the economy; provincially it has slipped to eighth overall, well behind the natural resources sectors. The Innovation Place Research Park near the University of Regina hosts several science and technology companies.


Urban planning issues

New Regina City Hall (1976)Regina has grown from a collection of wooden shanties and tent shacks clustered around the not-yet-built railway line into a modern city. Original city development centred around the railroad tracks in what is today Regina's downtown. As in other Canadian cities, the disappearance of the Simpson's and Eaton's retail department stores in the downtown, as well as the proliferation of shopping malls and "big box stores" on northern, southern and eastern periphery, together with a corresponding drift of entertainment venues (including all cinemas) to the city outskirts, depleted the city centre. Recently, changes have been underway to return vitality to the city centre, with condominium housing and business developments strongly encouraged. The former location of the Hudson's Bay Company department store (previously the site of the Regina Theatre) has been converted into offices; Globe Theatre, Casino Regina and its show lounge in the old CPR train station, the Cornwall Centre and downtown restaurants again draw people downtown although the mooted development of another large retail commercial area in the southwest near the airport would inevitably further compromise efforts to revitalize the central business district. The north-central sector of the city has in recent years become the focus of attention for its poverty, high rates of drug use and prostitution, and it remains be seen in the future if the attempts by community and all levels of government to improve the situation in the area will be successful.

Historic buildings and precincts

11th Avenue and Scarth Street, 1911. 1908 City Hall and Medical Arts Building in background; Old Post Office to the right; Imperial Bank of Canada across 11th Avenue.Many buildings of historical significance and value were lost during the period from 1945 through approximately 1970; a side-effect of the city's mid-century modernization. Regina's loss of the Romanesque Revival city hall on 11th Avenue is a particularly unfortunate example of the phenomenon. (It was replaced by a shopping mall, which was renovated extensively later to create office space for the Government of Canada.)

Since the 1970s, as has also occurred in many other Western Canada cities, a more historically conservationist attitude has taken hold in Regina, and many of the old buildings have been put to new uses instead of being demolished: the transformation of the old Normal School on the Regina College campus of the University of Regina into the Canada-Saskatchewan Soundstage and the Old Post Office on the Scarth Street Mall are two examples.


Natural recreational amenities
Regina has a large percentage of its overall area devoted to parks and greenspaces, with biking paths and other recreational facilities throughout the city. The City operates five municipal golf courses, including two in King's Park northeast of the city. Kings Park Recreation facility is also home to ball diamonds, picnic grounds, and stock car racing.

Within half an hour's drive is the summer cottage and camping country in the Qu'Appelle Valley with Last Mountain and Buffalo Pound Lakes and the four Fishing Lakes of Pasqua, Echo, Mission and Katepwa; slightly farther east are Round and Crooked Lakes.


Bedroom communities
From its first founding, residents of Regina have repaired to the nearby Qu'Appelle Valley on weekends and for summer holidays. Since the 1940s, many of the towns near Regina have steadily lost population as western Canada's agrarian economy reorganised itself from small family farm landholdings of a quarter-section (160 acres, the standard land grant to homesteaders) to the multi-section (a "section" being one square mile) landholdings that are nowadays necessary for economic viability. Some of these towns have enjoyed somewhat of a renaissance as a result of the excellent roads that for many decades seemed likely to doom them; they—and to some extent the nearby city of Moose Jaw—are now undergoing a mild resurgence as commuter satellites for Regina.

Qu'Appelle, at one time intended to be the Territorial metropole, enjoyed a temporary reprieve from its inexorable decline during the 1950s and '60s when Regina cottagers passed through en route to the Qu'Appelle Valley; Highway 10, which bypassed Qu'Appelle, quickly ended this brief holiday; Fort Qu'Appelle remains the summer vacation resort of choice; Indian Head is far enough from Regina to have an autonomous identity but close enough that its charm and vitality attract commuters; White City and Emerald Park are quasi-suburbs of Regina, as have become Balgonie, Grand Coulee, Pilot Butte and Lumsden in the Qu'Appelle Valley, some ten miles (16 km) to the north of Regina. Regina Beach — situated on Last Mountain Lake (known locally as Long Lake) and a 30-minute drive from Regina — has been a summer favourite of Reginans from its first establishment; Rouleau (also known as the town of Dog River in the television sitcom "Corner Gas") is 28 miles (45 km) southwest of Regina.


Wascana Centre

Wascana Lake with downtown ReginaWascana Centre is a 9.3 square kilometre (2,300 acre) park built around Wascana Lake and designed in 1961 by Minoru Yamasaki — the Seattle-born architect best known as the designer of the original World Trade Center in New York — in tandem with his starkly modernist design for the new Regina Campus of the University of Saskatchewan.[2]

It brings together lands and buildings owned by the City of Regina, University of Regina, Province of Saskatchewan and Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, including:

the Royal Saskatchewan Museum;
the Powerhouse of Discovery Science Centre and Kramer Imax theatre;
the Norman Mackenzie Art Gallery;
the Conexus Arts Centre concert hall and theatre complex (formerly known as the Saskatchewan Centre for the Arts);
the Canada-Saskatchewan Soundstage;
the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
the Regina College campus of the University of Regina including the Regina Conservatory of Music (in the old girls' residence wing of the Regina College building), the Darke Hall theatre and concert venue and
the Saskatchewan Legislative Building.

Spruce IslandWascana Lake was created as a "stock watering hole" — for the CPR's rolling stock, that is — in 1883 when a dam and bridge were constructed 1½ blocks to the west of the present Albert Street Bridge. A new dam and bridge were built in 1908, and Wascana Lake was used as a domestic water source and to cool the city’s power plant and, in due course, the new provincial legislative building.

Regina's improbable location made its water supply a perennial issue, but by the 1920s — with the Boggy Creek source of domestic water — Wascana Lake had ceased to have a utilitarian purpose and had become primarily a recreational facility, with bathing and boating its principal uses. It was drained in the 1930s as part of a government relief project; 2,100 men widened and dredged the lake bed and created two islands using only hand tools and horse-drawn wagons.

During the fall and winter of 2003–2004, Wascana Lake was again drained and dredged to deepen it by about an average of five metres (16 ft) while adding a new island, a promenade area beside Albert Street Bridge, water fountains, and a waterfall to help aerate the lake.


Transportation

Streetcar on Albert Street Bridge circa 1935; Provincial Legislative Building across lake.The city's public transit agency, Regina Transit, operates a fleet of 110 buses, on 16 routes, 7 days a week with access to the city centre from most areas of the city. A massive fire at the streetcar barns, on January 23, 1949, destroyed much of the rolling stock of streetcars and trolley buses and helped to propel Regina's diesel bus revolution in 1951. Because of the 1949 fire, original Regina streetcar rolling stock was rare, though through later years a few disused streetcars remained in evidence — a streetcar with takeaway food, for example, on the site of the Regina Theatre at 12th Avenue and Hamilton Street, until the Hudson's Bay Company acquired the site and built its 60s-through-90s department store there, and for many years another in the Scarth Street Mall.

The CPR no longer operates regular passenger services, though in the past railway passenger trains constituted the principal mode of inter-urban transit between Western Canadian cities. Its former station in downtown Regina — once the urban hub — has become a casino (see below). Nowadays Regina can be reached by several highways including the Trans-Canada Highway from the west and east sides and four provincial highways from other directions. The city is served by Ring Road, a high speed connection between Regina's east and northwest that loops around the city's east side (the west side of the loop is formed by Lewvan Drive) with plans calling for another perimeter highway to encircle the city farther out.[3]

Regina International Airport, the oldest established commercial airport in Canada, has recently undergone a major upgrade and expansion to allow it to handle the projected increase in traffic for the next several years. Situated on the west side of the city, it has eight gates that handle flights to major centres in Canada as well as daily flights to and from Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota via Northwest Airlines. WestJet and Air Canada Jazz airlines are also regularly scheduled in and out of Regina International Airport.


Education

University of Regina

In the years prior to the establishment of the University of Saskatchewan, there was continued debate as to which Saskatchewan city would be awarded the provincial university: ultimately Saskatoon won out over Regina and in immediate reaction the Methodist Church of Canada established Regina College in Regina. Regina College was a high school and junior college affiliated with the University of Saskatchewan — Campion and Luther Colleges, run by the Roman Catholic and Lutheran churches, operated on the same basis. Ultimately the financially hard-pressed United Church of Canada, which in any case had ideological difficulties with the concept of fee-paying private schooling, could no longer maintain Regina College during the Great Depression of the 1930s, and Regina College was disaffiliated and surrendered to the University of Saskatchewan; it became the Regina Campus of the University of Saskatchewan in 1961. After a protracted contretemps over the siting of several faculties in Saskatoon which had been promised to the Regina campus, Regina Campus sought and obtained a separate charter as the University of Regina in 1974. The University of Regina had some 12,500 students as of the 2002-2003 academic year and was rated 6th in the 2005 Maclean's magazine Canadian National Comprehensive Universities Rankings.

The original Regina College buildings on College Avenue continue in use; the old Girls' Residence is now the Regina Conservatory of Music and the old Normal School is now the Canada-Saskatchewan Soundstage.

Campion College and Luther College were church-run, private high schools offering junior college courses accredited by the University of Saskatchewan, on the same basis as the old Regina College. Both colleges now have federated college status in the University of Regina, as does the First Nations University of Canada.

The Regina Research Park is located immediately adjacent to the main campus and many of its initiatives in information technology, petroleum and environmental sciences are conducted in conjunction with university departments. A member in the research park is Canada's Petroleum Technology Research facility, a world leader in oil recovery and geological storage of CO2.


Saskatchewan Institute of Applied Science and Technology

Wascana campus of SIAST.

The Wascana campus of this province-wide technical institute is adjacent to the University of Regina. It occupies the former Plains Health Centre, previously a third hospital in Regina which in the course of rationallizing health services in Saskatchewan was in due course closed.

As with the federated colleges of the University of Regina, however, SIAST participates in and contributes to university life to the advantage of both its own and University of Regina students.

SIAST offers diplomas in some 175 trade and semi-professional fields ranging from accountancy and auto-mechanical technician through corrections worker, dental hygiene, driving instructor, nursing and school secretarial qualifications.


Royal Canadian Mounted Police Academy, Depot Division

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police Academy, "Depot" Division, is on the western perimeter of the city. As territory capital of the North-West Territories, Regina was the headquarters of the Royal North-West Mounted Police (the RCMP'S predecessor) before "the Force" became a national body with its headquarters in Ottawa in 1920. The city takes great pride in this national institution which is a major visitor attraction and a continuing link with Regina's past as the headquarters of the Force. The "Depot" Division chapel (the oldest building still standing in the city) is high on the list of must-see visitor attractions in Regina. An RCMP Heritage Centre is planned for opening in May 2007.


Public, separate and private schools
Main article: Public, separate and private schools in Regina, Saskatchewan
The Regina Public School Board, operates over 50 elementary schools and 10 high schools with approximately 20,000 students enrolled throughout the city with a small but growing number of home schooled children under the guidance of Regina Public School Board. A survey of student populations and school facilities is currently underway with the possibilty of school closures and reorganizing of school boundaries being hotly debated with some conclusions to be reached by late 2007 and decisions to be undertaken by June of 2008. The Regina Public School Board also supplies accredited teachers and services for several of the private schools in Regina. The publicly-funded Roman Catholic Separate School Board operates 25 elementary schools and four high schools, and has a current enrollment rate of approximately 10,000 students.

Private schools exist in Regina but have very small enrollments: the Roman Catholic, United, Lutheran and Anglican churches all established private schools in Regina in the early days of Western Canadian settlement but the inclusivist ethos of Saskatchewan society, particularly given the Public versus Separate Schools history, appears not to be especially hospitable to the concept of private schools. The Anglican (St Chad's), United Church (Regina College) and Roman Catholic Church (Campion, Sacred Heart College and Marian High School and Sacred Heart Academy) have long since closed their fee-paying schools in favour of the state-funded schools; the historic Luther College, operated by the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada persists as a high school on the site of the first Government House in association with the University of Regina federated college of the same name.

Latterly several private schools have been established in Regina for pre-school through Grade 12, albeit with small but currently growing enrollments, using premises long since abandoned by former state-funded schools: the Regina Huda school for Islamic education; Harvest City Church and Christian Academy occupying the former Sister Marion McGuigan Separate High School site; the Western Christian College and High School operated by the Churches of Christ using premises vacated by the Missionary Alliance; the Regina Christian School on the former site of Campion College.


Cultural life, sports and visitor attractions

Culture in Regina

Royal Saskatchewan MuseumRegina has a rich cultural life in music, theatre and dance, amply supported by the substantial fine arts constituency at the University of Regina, which has a large fine arts department including faculties of music and theatre. At various times this has attracted notable artistic talent: Donald M. Kendrick and Joe Fafard, now with significant international reputations, have been particular stars. The Regina Conservatory of Music operates in the former girls' residence wing of the Regina College building. Regina’s multicultural community earned Heritage Canada’s designation of 2004 "Cultural Capital of Canada" (in the over 125,000 population category).

Regina lacked a large concert and live theatre venue for many years after the loss to fire of the Regina Theatre in 1938 and the demolition of the Old City Hall in 1962 at a time when preservation of heritage architecture was not yet a fashionable issue,


The Conexus Arts Centrethough until the demolition of downtown cinemas which doubled as live theatres the lack was not urgent, and Darke Hall on the Regina College campus of the university provided a small concert and stage venue. (See Regina's historic buildings and precincts.) The default was remedied in 1970 with the construction of the Saskatchewan Centre of the Arts (now the Conexus Arts Centre) as a Canadian Centennial project, a theatre and concert hall complex overlooking Wascana Lake. According to its promotional literature, it is one of the most acoustically perfect concert venues in North America. The Royal Saskatchewan Museum (the present 1955 structure a Saskatchewan Golden Jubilee project) dates from 1906.

Holy Rosary Roman Catholic Cathedral and Knox-Metropolitan United Church have particularly impressive pipe organs, maintain substantial musical establishments and are frequently the venues for choral concerts and organ recitals.


Sports

Mosaic Stadium at Taylor FieldSports teams in Regina include the Regina Pats of the Western Hockey League, the Regina Thunder of the Canadian Junior Football League, the Prairie Fire of the Rugby Canada Super League, the Regina Red Sox of the Western Major Baseball League, the University of Regina's Regina Cougars, Regina Rams of the CIS, and the Saskatchewan Roughriders of the CFL.

The Saskatchewan Roughriders are a community-owned professional sports team. The Riders have a strong and loyal fan support base. Out-of-town season ticket holders often travel 300 to 400 kilometres (200–250 mi) or more to attend home games.

Regina's curling teams have distinguished the city for many decades. Richardson Crescent commemorates the Richardson curling team of the 1950s; in recent years Olympic Gold medal winner Sandra Schmirler and her rink occasioned vast civic pride.


Visitor attractions

The Kramer Imax Theatre located at the Saskatchewan Science CentreAttractions for visitors in Regina include the Royal Saskatchewan Museum (a museum of natural history); the Saskatchewan Science Centre; the Norman Mackenzie Art Gallery and numerous smaller galleries and museums; the Saskatchewan Legislative Building; Holy Rosary Cathedral; the RCMP national training centre and the museum; Government House; Casino Regina, the Globe Theatre; events held at Mosaic Stadium at Taylor Field; Ipsco Place (formerly Regina Exhibition Park), the venue for the annual Buffalo Days Exhibition every August; and the Connexus Arts Centre (see the City of Regina website below).
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #25  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 2:00 PM
Mayor Quimby Mayor Quimby is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 642
So you can copy and paste from wiki, good for you and quoting from Fiacco's campaign brochure is not an urban economic plan.

The 3 T's are researched and proven, the top cities on the planet all rank in the top 10 in each category. They also lead the planet in economic development, quality of life and incomes per capita. You believe in Fiacco talking points, I'll stick with scientific research.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #26  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 2:25 PM
psych1 psych1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Saskatoon
Posts: 156
Gentlemen, if I may, this is getting rather unseemly. Clearly you have personal issues with each other, but airing them here is not helping the image of the city you both claim to love, nor is it reducing your personal animosity nor is it making the other person go away. Just the opposite on all counts. It's the internet and nobody on the internet is accountable for what they say, so outragious things get said. I think you are both being somewhat inflamatory, but that is your bussiness, so I leave you to it
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #27  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 2:45 PM
Greco Roman Greco Roman is offline
Movin' on up
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 3,449
Delete post.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #28  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 4:16 PM
IntotheWest's Avatar
IntotheWest IntotheWest is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Okotoks (Calgary)
Posts: 2,916
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ajs View Post
he did a responsible thing he moved the discution out of the regina thread and into a new thread
It had to do with Regina development, and was turing into a personal argument between two forumers...the title says it all. And, if you look at the Regina construction thread, there was equal amounts of agreement/defending about Quimby's comments...this would suggest to me it is "open for delate".
__________________
Download Google Earth 4 "Calgary Downtown" Collection of buildings here - http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #29  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 4:18 PM
1ajs's Avatar
1ajs 1ajs is offline
ʇɥƃıuʞ -*ʞpʇ*-
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: lynn lake
Posts: 25,881
to the discreshion of the mods
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #30  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 4:52 PM
Mayor Quimby Mayor Quimby is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 642
Quote:
Originally Posted by Albertaboy View Post
Delete post.
Nothing like deleting a thread to show intolerance and prove it ,right.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #31  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 5:27 PM
craner's Avatar
craner craner is offline
Go Tall or Go Home
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 6,757
man - this is a bizzare thread.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #32  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 6:07 PM
HomeInMyShoes's Avatar
HomeInMyShoes HomeInMyShoes is offline
arf
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: File 13
Posts: 13,984
I've given up on the Regina thread. I think Quimby bashes Fiacco a bit much, but I also think most of the rest of the Regina forum praises him when he hasn't done that much good for the city either. You'd swear the Regina forum was the NHL thread with typical Calgary/Edmonton slamming bullshit with no middle ground, no reason, and no debate. It's a stupid thread now.
__________________

-- “We heal each other with kindness, gentleness and respect.” -- Richard Wagamese
-- “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” -- Dr. Seuss
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #33  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 6:28 PM
Mayor Quimby Mayor Quimby is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 642
I apologize but sometimes I compensate for the lack of willingness to be objective about our council and mayor by members of this board.

I am the first to admit that all is not horrible but there are many outstanding items that need to addressed and are not being dealt with properly.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #34  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 6:55 PM
Greco Roman Greco Roman is offline
Movin' on up
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 3,449
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby View Post
Nothing like deleting a thread to show intolerance and prove it ,right.

I was just going to make a sarcastic joke, but decided it was inappropriate. That's it.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #35  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 7:46 PM
Ruckus's Avatar
Ruckus Ruckus is offline
working stiff
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Woodlawn Cemetery
Posts: 2,583
From Regina construction thread http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...84#post2788384 Post #1968
Quote:
Originally Posted by SASKFTW View Post
Regina's debate over Mayor Fiacco's performance is quite passionate for either perspective. I'm curious to know how the media portray him, and how the public perceives him.

The discussion seems to focus on one person without mentioning the supporting systems of municipal government which act collectively to form ideas and reach consensus. To suggest the Mayor is responsible for all, or almost all initiatives or policies(good or bad) is an ignorant opinion which lacks criticism of councilors and civic departments who have just as much responsibility in the development and servicing of a city.

Maybe I've missed it through the pages of discussion, but all I hear is what Fiacco has or hasn't done, no talk of councilors or department heads. Surely there is more complexity to Regina's municipal operations?
In response:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby View Post
I attempt to speak about Fiacco and council or mayor and council or city council but the truth is that Regina's Mayor controls council's agenda and those that disagree are brushed aside or dealt with quickly but effectively. Watch a council meeting or attend one.

As for the mandarins at city hall, they can recommend a course of action but in the end it is council choice. There are many examples of council overriding the administrations recommendations, the skate park fiasco comes to mind.

Mayor and council have been given a free ride by the local media, even when questionable policy is enacted, it rarely questioned. In fact many editorials come to his rescue when he screws up. Some examples are conflict of interest in land development, city employee working on campaign during work time and on payroll, Maclean's and North Central, copy the Premier's speech to volunteers and lying about tax increases or the lack of any.

Hope that answers you questions.
Thanks for the quick response.

Just some quick comments from me, and for you to elaborate on some points.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby View Post
As for the mandarins at city hall, they can recommend a course of action but in the end it is council choice. There are many examples of council overriding the administrations recommendations, the skate park fiasco comes to mind.
That sort of thing occurs in Saskatoon as well. But they generally have a good debate, and usually council makes the appropriate decision(e.g. not giving in to the demands of NIMBY supporters).

What was the issue with Regina's skatepark?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby View Post
Some examples are conflict of interest in land development,
Details of the conflict(s)?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby View Post
Maclean's and North Central,
Rather unfortunate negative reaction to a negative article from the Mayor, and by association the city. I would hope any Mayor would take it upon themselves to unite residents and address the seriousness of a social problem with something more than shredding a magazine and a few critical remarks of editors; A poor choice by Fiacco and one which certainly deserves some of the unsupportive comments I'm hearing.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #36  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 10:28 PM
newflyer's Avatar
newflyer newflyer is offline
Capitalist
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5,086
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby View Post
See what I mean.

The fact that a city council is referred to in a construction thread is not hard to fathom. I mean, they all have to be approved by council. Council passes the zoning laws, etc. The two are intricately connected.

Migs feels that any criticism of the city is negative. It appears, as he has not attempted to prove otherwise, that unless someone agrees with him, they should not post.

There is no debate allowed in the Regina Construction thread, none.
Not wanting to add fuel to the fire, but I am in agreement that the political policies play a real role in the level of private investment in a city or province. Developers are afterall looking for a profitable environment in which to operate.

I therefore think discussing the political agendy of the government is fair game.
__________________
Check out my city at
http://www.allwinnipeg.com **More than Ever**
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #37  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 10:47 PM
Mayor Quimby Mayor Quimby is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 642
Quote:
Originally Posted by SASKFTW View Post
From Regina construction thread http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...84#post2788384 Post #1968


In response:


Thanks for the quick response.

Just some quick comments from me, and for you to elaborate on some points.



That sort of thing occurs in Saskatoon as well. But they generally have a good debate, and usually council makes the appropriate decision(e.g. not giving in to the demands of NIMBY supporters).

What was the issue with Regina's skatepark?


Details of the conflict(s)?



Rather unfortunate negative reaction to a negative article from the Mayor, and by association the city. I would hope any Mayor would take it upon themselves to unite residents and address the seriousness of a social problem with something more than shredding a magazine and a few critical remarks of editors; A poor choice by Fiacco and one which certainly deserves some of the unsupportive comments I'm hearing.
What was the issue with Regina's skatepark?

The administration recommended a Les Sherman Park in Regina's west central area, a multi use park with soccer fields, baseball diamonds, a bike path and arts centre. It was supported widely by community groups and other stakeholders. Unfortunately, a small group of a hundred homeowners, including two friends of the Mayor and his campaign manager, manged to lobby for the alertanate site, Wascana Park. The Mayor states in the paper, Les Sherman isn't on and the next day council votes for Wascana Park, a couple 100 metres from a water fowl preserve.

Details of the conflict(s)?

Basicly, the Mayor and family members owned land that all of sudden was slated for development. He declared a conflict of interest in council but still lobbied the province to alter the zoning rules due it being right beside the airport. He acted according to the law but the fact that a development that was suppose to be for 50+ years in the future came up out of nowhere and was adjacent to the airport.

The truly sad part is the lack of the local media being critical of these moves, they actually try to help his spin. The other sad part is the inability of Regina's electors to see through the veil and see the mayor for what he is.

Hope that clarifies the muddy waters.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #38  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 10:56 PM
yorktonite yorktonite is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 188
Quimby, it's pretty obvious where your stance on Fiacco is. But which candidate running for mayor (in the last election) did you feel brought the most to the table and why?

By asking this I'm just curious and by no means am I trying to stir the pot.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #39  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2007, 11:56 PM
Mayor Quimby Mayor Quimby is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 642
Quote:
Originally Posted by newflyer View Post
Not wanting to add fuel to the fire, but I am in agreement that the political policies play a real role in the level of private investment in a city or province. Developers are afterall looking for a profitable environment in which to operate.

I therefore think discussing the political agendy of the government is fair game.
Thanks for interjecting some sanity, here.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #40  
Old Posted Apr 24, 2007, 12:08 AM
Mayor Quimby Mayor Quimby is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 642
Quote:
Originally Posted by yorktonite View Post
Quimby, it's pretty obvious where your stance on Fiacco is. But which candidate running for mayor (in the last election) did you feel brought the most to the table and why?

By asking this I'm just curious and by no means am I trying to stir the pot.
None of the candidates fully stated the type of policy, I favour.However, there was one council candidate. The closest to my outlook was Jim Holmes, as he favoured investment in the here and now and taking care of the issues. He was the only one with a semi-modern urban outlook and the only one honest about his intentions. Fiacco is stuck in the 80s and 90s. So I voted for Jim Holmes.

The Mayor and council, of any city, should be concentrating on the 3 T's: Technology, Talent and Tolerance. These are the 3 biggest factors in attracting commercial investment and migrants. In Regina's case, we need to lure more tech companies. RREDA's tax exemption program should be geared more heavily toward tech investment, not any investment. We have the talent, coming out of our High Schools and Tech school and University; we need to keep them and cost should not be an issue. Lastly, tolerance is where Regina gets a big fat F. The city is riddled with racism and red neck attitudes. Homosexuals, aboriginals and immigrants are in general treated badly and discriminated against. This is a major hurdle and needs to be addressed now, and cost should not be an issue. We will not attract intelligent talented people as long as the city is intolerant to different ideas,cultures and lifestyles. Every resource at the city's disposal should be invested toward ensuring the First Nations and Metis have a bright future.

Fiacco has failed at promoting tolerance and has not put enough effort into keeping talent nor attracting tech companies. He did not even mention it in the campaign, at least Jim did and that won my vote.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:09 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.