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SAN ANTONIO | Spurs Arena Downtown

This thread is for the Spurs' new arena downtown, and any news about the Frost Center.

Current scuttlebutt is that the Spurs will build a new arena on the location of the hopefully soon-to-be-demolished eyesore Institute of Texan Cultures.

Please post news and thoughts about the new Spurs arena here.
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Here's an article from the Express-News.
https://www.expressnews.com/news/art...i-19755723.php


A new Spurs arena will cost a ton, and that gives Bexar County Judge Peter Sakai leverage
By Greg Jefferson, Express News Columnist
Sep 13, 2024


If the Spurs move to a new basketball palace downtown, Sakai would have to scramble to keep the county-owned Frost Bank Center afloat. But he's turning that predicament to his advantage.

Bexar County Judge Peter Sakai learned last summer that city leaders and top Spurs executives had been talking behind his back for months about moving the team from its county-owned home on the East Side to a new downtown arena.

Sakai was barely six months in office and still learning the ropes. He was wary of the organization left behind by his predecessor, Nelson Wolff, who'd towered over county government for 21 years, and many county staffers were befuddled by the new guy, who was hard to read and sometimes even harder to reach.

The confusion and near-paralysis that gripped the Bexar County Courthouse as Sakai settled in must have created the perfect opening for the city and Spurs to quietly push ahead on arena talks. The team's landlord was, ahem, preoccupied.

Sakai is said to have been livid when he learned of the secret negotiations, and it's easy to see why. Losing the Spurs as the Frost Bank Center's marquee tenant would leave the county with a gaping hole to fill. The Spurs are scheduled to play 40 home games in the 19,000-seat arena during the 2024-25 season. That's a lot of nights of "alternative programming."
Yet despite his initial pique, by last October Sakai was telling the San Antonio Express-News that he'd held "preliminary discussions" with city and Spurs officials and was open to the idea of a downtown move.

Fast forward to the present: Not only is Sakai open to it, he's willing to consider shouldering some of the new arena's construction costs. He said he's being a realist. If Spurs Sports & Entertainment sees the team's future downtown, that's where it's going. But Sakai intends to exact a price for his support.

What does he want? A serious plan for economic development on the East Side, with buy-in from the city and the Spurs.

The idea would be to make good on the still-unfulfilled promise that was implicit in the 1999 political campaign that persuaded Bexar County voters to approve $186 million in taxpayer funding for the SBC Center (later renamed the AT&T Center and now the Frost Bank Center). In other words, jobs and business growth for struggling East Side neighborhoods.
The challenge, in Sakai's words, is to "turn this into a win-win for the community."

If a new Spurs arena is built, it will be on the current site of the Institute of Texan Cultures at Hemisfair, and it would likely cost more than $1 billion. The Spurs, we're told, will put up some of the money, but they want local government to bear most of the cost.

The bill, when it comes due, would be too big for the city alone to cover. It needs the county to pitch in. That why Sakai has leverage to demand an economic development blueprint.
He said a "development team" of county, city and Spurs officials is working on such a plan. He didn't offer any details because he's not directly involved and doesn't know the fine points. But it wouldn't be crazy to think the plan might tackle obstacles to development such as the traffic choke points between Interstate 35 and the site of both the arena and the county-owned Freeman Coliseum.

"Let's take care of the East Side, and then we'll see what we can do for the Spurs," he said.
In the meantime, the county's starting to think through how to keep the Frost Bank Center busy if the Spurs decamp. Again, scant details, but this pledge from Sakai: "We're not going to let that facility become the next Astrodome — we are going to repurpose the arena."
At this point, the only good news is that the arena's other major tenant, the San Antonio Stock Show & Rodeo, would have the flexibility to make major improvements in its program if the Spurs aren't running the place.

Talk of where the county would find the money for its share of a new arena is zeroing in on the county venue tax, paid mostly by visitors to San Antonio who stay in hotels and rent cars.
"It has been brought up as a potential source of revenue for a new Spurs arena," said County Commissioner Justin Rodriguez, whose West Side precinct takes in part of downtown. "But we're far from calling any kind of an election."

For one thing, the Frost Bank Center needs upgrades, regardless of the Spurs' potential move, and the county expects to use venue tax revenue to pay for them. Also, the county will have to field what's likely to be a bunch of community requests for money for amateur sports and cultural arts facilities.

Bexar County Commissioners Court could ask voters to approve a venue tax increase next May or the following November.

If that happens, a Spurs arena would likely share the ballot with other projects, and Rodriguez said he doubts the county has the capacity to raise more than $500 million that way.
That's why it will take the county, city and Spurs kicking in for a downtown arena. "I think that's the only way that could happen," Rodriguez said.
Here's a good place to ask the question: Why can't Spurs Sports & Entertainment pay for the whole thing? The question is academic because the politics of the situation dictate that city and county officials will do what it takes to keep the NBA franchise here.

I asked Sakai a related question: Why would the county pay anything for a downtown arena, given the threat it would pose to the Frost Bank Center? "I don't want to lose the Spurs," he said. "I'm aware that we have to keep an eye on the ball — we have to support the Spurs. They're in a small market, and they need as much help as they can get."

His answer sounds familiar, shot through as it is by fear that if San Antonio loses the Spurs, it loses the one thing that truly puts us on the national map.
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From August 4:

As Spurs arena rumors swirl and a ballot deadline looms, architects reimagine downtown SA
by Shari Biediger and Iris Dimmick
August 4, 2024
https://sanantonioreport.org/as-spur...e-downtown-sa/


Major changes to downtown San Antonio and its beloved sports franchises may well be decided over the next few years — but a looming Aug. 19 ballot deadline means any asks for taxpayers to pony up and support a sports district will likely be punted to 2025.

The city is abuzz with chisme and fantasy design renderings, but non-disclosure agreements and the high-stakes nature of the deal have the players holding their cards close to their chests — leaving open the question of exactly where a new basketball arena and baseball field could be built and how to pay for them.

It’s likely that first on the agenda for approval, design and funding would be a downtown ballpark for the Missions minor league baseball team — a long stated intention of the club’s local ownership.

Some rumors of a potential site have fixed on northwest downtown parcels being assembled by developer Graham Weston, a team owner. But Weston Urban co-founder and CEO Randy Smith has said the company’s future vision is residential. That’s despite the land being identified in a 2016 report prepared for Centro San Antonio and the City of San Antonio as a potential ballpark location.

But much of the talk around a prospective Spurs arena — a more expensive, and therefore complicated endeavor — has centered on Hemisfair, specifically the land once occupied by the Institute of Texan Cultures near the Alamodome.

In February, the University of Texas Board of Regents granted UTSA conditional approval to start discussions with the City of San Antonio about buying or leasing the ITC property at Hemisfair, for a “potential downtown revitalization project.”

Recent reports have confirmed that Spurs Sports & Entertainment (SS&E) is also negotiating with the City on a joint economic venture involving the ITC property.

In March, a city spokeswoman described several redevelopment projects that could be made possible through purchasing or leasing the ITC property: expanding the Henry B. González Convention Center, renovating the Alamodome and building a land bridge over Interstate 37 to reconnect Hemisfair to the East Side of San Antonio.

In what could be viewed as a preview of what’s to come, late last year the Spurs unveiled the team’s earth-toned City Edition court and uniforms featuring Hemisfair and the Tower of the Americas, which was built for the 1968 World’s Fair.

November, May — or later?

It’s unknown if either of these projects would be funded with tax dollars, but it’s becoming clear that voters are not likely to be asked this year to approve public money to fund these ventures.

Sales taxes, venue taxes and bond dollars are not the only financing tools that could be used, but if the city or county leaders want to use them, they’ll need to ask voters.

And the deadline to place items on the November ballot is Aug. 19.

Voters in San Antonio may see particularly long lines for a longer ballot this year with presidential picks, state legislators and likely several long-awaited municipal propositions amending the city charter. City Council is slated to finalize its portion of the ballot on Thursday, without mention of a sales tax shift or bond.

There have also been no public discussions at Bexar County Commissioners Court about placing additional items on the ballot. Spokespeople for the county and Judge Peter Sakai both said they were unaware of any efforts to do so.

Officials could call a special meeting to add stadium or field funding mechanisms to the ballot, but that’s increasingly unlikely, given the fast-approaching deadline and lack of community engagement on the topic, a source inside City Hall told the San Antonio Report.

Would a high turnout driven by a presidential election work in such a proposition’s favor? What is clear is that the next opportunity comes in May 2025, during the mayoral and council member election. With Mayor Ron Nirenberg up against a term limit and an already contentious battle to replace him, the May ballot is also shaping up to be a high-interest election, by local standards.

Waiting for the next round would allow officials more time to convince voters that a stadium for a multimillion-dollar sports franchise deserves taxpayer dollars.

But it may not be a slam dunk: From 1990 through 2023, voters across the U.S. cast ballots on 57 stadium and arena proposals across the country, approving 35 and rejecting 22 — a 61% average, according to data compiled by Geoffrey Propheter, an associate public finance professor at the University of Colorado Denver, and shared with the Associated Press.

And for no small number of San Antonians, the Frost Bank Center and Alamodome failed to live up to the promises of economic boom and revitalization on the city’s East Side — an area that would no doubt be affected by yet another Spurs move.

During an April 14 telephone call with Nichols Research, San Antonio resident Anne Englert answered numerous questions about her feelings on local sports and potential charter amendments, among other topics. Englert is a member of the local activist group, Infuse SA.

The pollster identified themselves as calling on behalf of the City of San Antonio and others, Englert said, and asked how she felt about City Council, the Bexar County Commissioners Court, politicians’ salaries, and the Frost Bank Center where the Spurs play.

“They then moved into how I felt and what value the Spurs bring into the city,” she said, with one question stating the team’s current facility is outdated. “It was a very front-loaded question in order to solicit an answer.”
What would it look like?

If a downtown sports entertainment district can be dreamed, can it be built?

That remains the multimillion-dollar question as local politicians and sports franchise owners keep mostly under wraps their ultimate plans and specific whereabouts of proposed new sporting venues.

Experts in the field say there’s ample land to create a downtown sports district in the urban core and at Hemisfair — and precedent for such plans. Now, in the absence of any real clarity on Hemisfair’s future, several local architects are putting their best ideas on paper.

Though unsolicited by the decision-makers of the as-yet-defined project, the drawings illustrate what the future could look like, no holds barred.

“It’s been fun to take a hypothetical stab at it without the complication of budgets or clients and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be cool if … ?’” said Brantley Hightower, who founded the architecture HiWorks.

The project is something Hightower has been thinking about since at least 2013, when the San Antonio chapter of the American Institute of Architects hosted a design competition to envision how the brutalist-style ITC building could be reimagined and repurposed.

Hightower’s entry, published here, proposed a network of elevated walkways connecting buildings within the eastern quadrant of Hemisfair, mimicking the River Walk, and repurposing the ITC as an indoor recreation center.

“The roof of the Institute of Texan Cultures, for example, is perfectly sized for a soccer field,” he wrote.

Fast-forward to 2024, and Hightower, who has worked on various projects in San Antonio to include the Stinson Airport Tower, decided to spend a slow day at the office on an exercise laying out plans for “HemisFair Field.”

Posted to his blog, the plans show a baseball stadium that reuses a portion of the ITC building. He added that it would be “unfortunate” if the State of Texas Pavilion “must be sacrificed in order to make such a district possible” — and a sacrifice that he doesn’t believe is necessary.

Card and Company principal Jonathan Card said his ideas for Hemisfair, including a sports district, had been “bouncing around” in his head for a long time. So when he had some free time, he went to the drawing board.

The architect also wanted to get those ideas out into the world so, like his former Lake Flato colleague Hightower, he wrote a series of retrospective blog posts last year on urban planning in San Antonio.

The first asks, “What if … local businessmen had paved over the river that is now the San Antonio Riverwalk?” he wrote.

The fourth installment, published last fall, centers on a more recent question. “What if … a sports district, including an expandable baseball stadium, was built in the urban core?”


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