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Old Posted Dec 23, 2020, 11:47 PM
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2020, 2:22 AM
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2020, 8:25 PM
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^ Well, probably not elevators per se, but the fact that condos on higher floors tend to cost more than lower floor ones, per square foot.

My read on the comment was simply the highly um elevated risk of covid transmission in very confined indoor public spaces such as elevators. Pretty rational to want to avoid spaces like that in general right now.


More broadly, I think that we've been overdue in general for lower density areas to gain some relative market share in housing preference. This is not the same as saying I think there is going to be a mass exodus from higher density urban housing. But, a relative shift is overdue. Millennials, for example, had been putting off the traditional shift for longer than most anyone thought likely. It was never going to be forestalled forever, though.
The pandemic may have given the final nudge needed.
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Old Posted Dec 25, 2020, 5:16 PM
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^ Thanks for this interpretation of that comment, which might indeed be what that person meant. But each elevator ride lasts so short that we shouldn't worry about contracting the coronavirus. I do wash my hands ASAP after pressing elevator buttons, but I am not concerned about inhaling virus-laden droplets in an elevator, especially since I wear a face mask, and the last few people in the elevator probably did, too.

On the other hand I am concerned about central air conditioning spreading the virus from one apartment/condo to everyone else living in the same building. Even if this air might contain just a tiny amount of the virus, inhaling it for many hours a day, seven days a week could still be hazardous. In general people don't wear face masks at home, so when they cough or sneeze or even simply talk, their droplets could be distributed by the central A/C system.

Good thing Vista is still fairly empty right now. People haven't started moving in yet, correct?
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Old Posted Dec 25, 2020, 5:45 PM
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Good thing Vista is still fairly empty right now. People haven't started moving in yet, correct?
I beleive people have started moving in already. . . I took a walk over there just a few minutes ago to see the Waterside Drive transition roadway and there were people walking into the residence entrance. . .

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Old Posted Dec 25, 2020, 5:52 PM
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^Most high rise residential construction in Chicago does not return air from the units. Especially in newer construction, makeup air is pumped into the residential corridors and reheated in each unit through individual fan coil units or heat pumps. Air is rejected through toilet exhaust tied into the light switches so each time someone turns on the bathroom light a damper opens and air from the unit is exhausted. Air is also dumped from the units through operable vents and terrace doors.

Offices and residential amenities/common areas are set up differently... these typically recirculate air through return air ducts or plenum ceilings. So you can be less concerned about transmission in your home and more concerned in your office or common areas.
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^ Thanks for this interpretation of that comment, which might indeed be what that person meant. But each elevator ride lasts so short that we shouldn't worry about contracting the coronavirus. I do wash my hands ASAP after pressing elevator buttons, but I am not concerned about inhaling virus-laden droplets in an elevator, especially since I wear a face mask, and the last few people in the elevator probably did, too.

On the other hand I am concerned about central air conditioning spreading the virus from one apartment/condo to everyone else living in the same building. Even if this air might contain just a tiny amount of the virus, inhaling it for many hours a day, seven days a week could still be hazardous. In general people don't wear face masks at home, so when they cough or sneeze or even simply talk, their droplets could be distributed by the central A/C system.

Good thing Vista is still fairly empty right now. People haven't started moving in yet, correct?
Do you understand HVAC system highrise mechanics and principles?

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Offices and residential amenities/common areas are set up differently... these typically recirculate air through return air ducts or plenum ceilings. So you can be less concerned about transmission in your home and more concerned in your office or common areas.
That's good to know. Yes, I thought that multi-unit residential buildings use the same air handling systems found in commercial buildings, offices and schools. I work in a hospital with hundreds of patients daily, so some of us have been concerned about our HVAC system distributing the coronavirus throughout the building. Leadership has assured us that our building's air system exceeds the institution's standards in terms of filtering and exchanges of air, but when it comes to a novel virus, no one knows for sure whether established standards are good enough, especially in terms of very prolonged exposure to trace amounts of the virus.

However, Vista is both residential and commercial, so it's unclear whether it recirculates air.

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^Mixed use properties use the same principles. Air does not recirculate in the residential and hotel dwelling portions. It does in the common areas and restaurants.
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Can someone post this on here with this link because I don't know how but the tower looks awesome now.
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2021, 9:31 PM
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^^ . Say what you will about the bad louvers, but this tower turned out absolutely fantastic, especially when viewed from directly below, as seen in Nick's first and second shots. Hell of a design.
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2021, 11:27 PM
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Second to last pic Nick!

contrails, your lens or did you try to edit out window washer ropes?

Great pics by the way....
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Second to last pic Nick!

contrails, your lens or did you try to edit out window washer ropes?

Those are just the ropes I didn't edit out. these were quick edits for social. Didn't realize they were so apparent until the *large* version posted to the forum. As for the puffs of smoke from the top, those are from the rooftop HVAC.

Great pics by the way....
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^^ . Say what you will about the bad louvers, but this tower turned out absolutely fantastic, especially when viewed from directly below, as seen in Nick's first and second shots. Hell of a design.
Once the windows are cleaned and it's sparking, it'll be quite a stunner from up close! Similar to Aqua, this one may be more interesting when examined from up close, than simply appreciating its form/height from afar. unlike Aqua however, at least this one has a unique form from a distance...even if the louvers detract a bit.
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