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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 7:29 PM
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I'm not as opposed to building this as I used to be, but I still think it should hang out behind Sears...

1. It makes for better observing of the entire downtown area.
2. It clusters it where tourists already are.
3. It hides it away from the lakefront.
4. Its not that much taller than Sears, and it extends development South.

I know the Streeterville location is dead, but I must reiterate that this thing must be nowhere near the Spire.

I like the thread title change, but I don't know. Beitler seems relentless.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 8:37 PM
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I'm telling you guys, put this thing on Wolf Point and it will kick ass. I mean talk about a good spot to see the whole city from!

Either that or build an island in the middle of the river right next to Trump's tower just to piss him off and teach him a lesson for being an asshole...
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 8:48 PM
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I'm not as opposed to building this as I used to be, but I still think it should hang out behind Sears...

1. It makes for better observing of the entire downtown area.
2. It clusters it where tourists already are.
3. It hides it away from the lakefront.
4. Its not that much taller than Sears, and it extends development South.

I know the Streeterville location is dead, but I must reiterate that this thing must be nowhere near the Spire.

I like the thread title change, but I don't know. Beitler seems relentless.

I think you bring up good points. Perhaps the plot of land for sale just north of River City on Wells/Harrison or the plot of land (I think owned by Rezco) just South of Roosevelt could be good locations?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 8:51 PM
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Beitler needs to stop thinking about putting this in Streeterville at all. There's already enough touristy stuff there and SOAR will never allow it. Besides, observation towers work best (in my opinion) when they have a view of all the iconic structures, not when they are amongst them. Think about Seattle's Space Needle; it's not in the middle of downtown. I think it would look good along or near the north branch of the river. Near Goose Island, on Chicago Ave. near the Wards building (in the former Cabrini-Green area), or even at Wolf Point. That's if it is to be built at all.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 8:52 PM
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no speculation about a location in that article, which is a surprise.

I'm not sure wolf point is big enough, but that would be ideal I agree
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 9:19 PM
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I'm not sure wolf point is big enough, but that would be ideal I agree
wolf point is plenty big enough to accomodate this tower. if anything, placing beitler's tower on wolf point would be an under-utilization of the real estate.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 10:33 PM
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Not dead yet??? Sheesh. . . stick a fork in it already!!!
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 11:04 PM
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wolf point is plenty big enough to accomodate this tower. if anything, placing beitler's tower on wolf point would be an under-utilization of the real estate.
Agree. Wolf Point is too prime a location for a mere transmission tower. Does Chicago have any Hi-def television broadcast now?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 11:14 PM
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Agree. Wolf Point is too prime a location for a mere transmission tower. Does Chicago have any Hi-def television broadcast now?
yes, but like Dalton mentioned above, the other locations would be good too. maybe.

There is going to be a new suspension bridge going to Goose Island.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2007, 11:30 PM
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yes, but like Dalton mentioned above, the other locations would be good too. maybe.

There is going to be a new suspension bridge going to Goose Island.

Is there some reason why Sears and JHC can't be modified to transmit HD? Here in the Green Bay TV market all stations are broadcast in HD and analog (there are actually 4 more HD than regular over the air) and as far as I know this wasn't done with any new trans towers. So why the need for a new broadcast super tower in Chitown?
     
     
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Is there some reason why Sears and JHC can't be modified to transmit HD? Here in the Green Bay TV market all stations are broadcast in HD and analog (there are actually 4 more HD than regular over the air) and as far as I know this wasn't done with any new trans towers. So why the need for a new broadcast super tower in Chitown?
I think the need might arise from the size of the Chicago market (both sq mile wise and population wise).
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2007, 12:37 AM
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Beitler should work with someone to build another supertall that would make a duel used tower more feasible. Having a 2000ft structure just used for TV transmission seems like a bit of a waste IMO.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2007, 12:53 AM
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Not dead yet??? Sheesh. . . stick a fork in it already!!!
Yeah, what's up with the recent interest in this one lately? There hasn't been any news, and it's likely not going to happen, or at least not at the LSD site.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2007, 1:06 AM
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Is there some reason why Sears and JHC can't be modified to transmit HD? Here in the Green Bay TV market all stations are broadcast in HD and analog (there are actually 4 more HD than regular over the air) and as far as I know this wasn't done with any new trans towers. So why the need for a new broadcast super tower in Chitown?
All the TV stations already broadcast in HD, hence there is no need for this tower.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2007, 1:30 AM
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The design for this isn't horrible. Its just not very...dare I say Chicago? Lame, I know.

I'm not really a fan of "towers," but if this was built next to the Spire, I would be upset.
Really? I think they would complimenty each other very well. I've never really cared for the Empire State Building affect-- one tower with not many more of relative height nearby. That's changing some now-- But I think a metropolis should be associated with more than one "tower"-- a tower garden -- truly dense-- where towers are built not as status symbols-- but as an accomodation to urban development and property values. Taipei 101 is simply rediculous in its setting
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2007, 3:57 AM
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Trump and Beitler should just go in together. And why not? Trump maybe wants another Chicago tower. And Beitler wants a supertall anything. I think Chicago is due for a 1000m Beitler/Trump supertower. No?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2007, 4:02 AM
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They should do a revised 7SD. Trump Chicago took cues from it I remember reading and maybe it would be more feasible this time around?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2007, 4:46 AM
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They should do a revised 7SD. Trump Chicago took cues from it I remember reading and maybe it would be more feasible this time around?
Oooh yeah. Didn't trump consider 7SD before going with Adrian Smith?
Or maybe Beitler should consider a 1000m version of the Miglin-Beitler Skyneedle.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2007, 5:09 AM
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There is going to be a new suspension bridge going to Goose Island.
Are you confusing the location the North Avenue?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2007, 7:40 AM
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Are you confusing the location the North Avenue?
I just threw that in with the mention of Goose Island, but yeah, North Avenue about 200feet north of Goose Island. Division crosses Goose Island.
     
     
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