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They should make a casino where the whole thing feels like an illicit underground Chinatown poker den. Matt Damon and Edward Norton could make periodical appearances.
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They should make a casino where the whole thing feels like an illicit underground Chinatown poker den. Matt Damon and Edward Norton could make periodical appearances.
That would be cool. If you Must build a casino, at least make a memorable and interesting one.
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A request for information (RFI) solicitation issued by the New York State Gaming Commission for downstate casino licenses drew 30 responses, including submissions from at least eight casino operators.

The RFI, an informal process that does not include any commitments or license awards, was included in the budget state lawmakers passed in April.

….. The submissions, according to questions the Gaming Commission answered last month from interested submitters, will help inform lawmakers and officials on the ideal size of the casinos, potential for licensing fees and the evaluation process for awarding licenses.



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Gaming Operators Lining Up to Get in on New York’s Casino Action


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December 17, 2021


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As soon as New York acknowledged publicly that it might expand its land-based casino market, several operators jumped. According to The Times Union, Bally’s, Hard Rock, Las Vegas Sands and Wynn Resorts were among the companies that responded to the request for information (RFI) by the New York State Gaming Commission (NYSGC) before the deadline of December 10. Genting, MGM Resorts and Rush Street Gaming also responded to the RFI.

….. Rush Street was the only company to not redact its response. According to the Times Union, the operator positioned itself as a strong candidate for a casino license due to its “transformative” work in local communities, not only in Schenectady but also in Philadelphia, Chicago and Niagara Falls.

….. The Water Club, located in Manhattan, responded to the request for details and proposed a small, exclusive casino that does not have any slot machines. There were 30 responses in total. However, most only talked about the potential of casinos and didn’t actually suggest one.

Although the Shinnecock tribe responded to the request, the response was not published. The Shinnecock Nation has been planning for years to build a casino on its territory, Southampton. This would not require a state license, but it could use that leverage to get a better location.

Vornado Realty Trust and Morris Bailey were among those who proposed or considered gambling venues in Manhattan earlier this year. It is not known if any of this group responded to the latest RFI.
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The RFI wasn’t limited to just those companies interested in owning a piece of the casino real estate market in New York. Eligible officials and community groups were also permitted to give their input.

That input included some opposition to the idea, as well. The opening of a casino near Citi Field in Flushing, home of the NY Mets, faced strong opposition. That resistance includes an effort by Queens Civic Congress, an influential coalition of 60 neighborhood organizations.
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It'll be interesting to watch this unfold and compare it to what is being proposed in Chicago.
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It'll be interesting to watch this unfold and compare it to what is being proposed in Chicago.
My bet is it going in an already built building, so if that's true we're not getting anything amazing architecturally from the outside at least (like the Rivers 78 proposal which is great.)
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Speaker-elect Adrienne Adams supports casino expansion at Aqueduct Racetrack

By Carl Campanile and Josh Kosman
December 19, 2021


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The next City Council speaker wants to roll the dice.

Queens Councilwoman Adrienne Adams — who secured the votes needed to become the leader of the 51-member legislative body in 2022 — is lobbying the state to award a casino license on her home turf at Aqueduct Racetrack in South Ozone Park.
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The Post last week reported about a proposal to open a “Monte Carlo”-style casino along Manhattan’s East River waterfront near the floating Water Club on 30th Street.

“Resorts World has contributed mightily to New York’s economy, creating jobs for local residents and spurring economic development in the borough of Queens,” Adams — no relation to Mayor-elect Eric Adams — said in the letter to the gaming commission.

Adams noted that Resorts World currently employs more than 1,000 unionized employees in good paying jobs with the vast majority being “people of color” and from Queens. Nearly half the workers are women, she added.

The speaker-elect said Resorts World has been a good community neighbor, donating $2 million to local charities such as Queens Boys & Girls Club and has hosted many community events and health fairs .
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A new $400 million hotel, The Hyatt Regency JFK at Resorts World, just opened at Aqueduct.

“Resorts World has been an outstanding partner in our community and has
contributed to the economic and social fabric of our borough,” the speaker-elect representing southern Queens said.

Having Adrienne Adams as a strong ally makes it less likely that the gaming commission will award a casino license near the Mets’ Citi Field ballpark in Willets Point. Genting opposes having a competing casino just a few miles away, sources said.

Civic groups in northeast Queens also oppose having a casino at nearby Willets Point.

Meanwhile politicians in Westchester County sent letters to the gaming commission urging them to award a full casino license to the MGM Resorts’ Empire City Casino at Yonkers Raceway — including Westchester County Executive George Latimer and Mayor Mike Spano.
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Hard Rock has 3 potential sites for a New York City casino

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The chairperson of the Hard Rock gambling, hospitality and entertainment company says it has three potential sites on which it could build a casino in New York City.

Jim Allen said Thursday in an interview that a Hard Rock casino in New York would cost at least $2 billion. He is not divulging the potential sites but says it will not be its planned half-billion-dollar hotel in Manhattan.

Allen says he expects the site selection process to begin in late summer or early fall.





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Hard Rock, the global gambling, hospitality and entertainment company, has three potential sites on which it could build a casino in New York City, its chairperson said Thursday.

The company, owned by Florida's Seminole tribe, will open a new $400 million to $500 million hotel in Manhattan in April, and has long operated a Hard Rock Cafe near Times Square that has been a must-see on the tourist circuit. But its plan for a new $2 billion casino in the city would dwarf those investments.

In an interview after he addressed an employee meeting at the Atlantic City casino, Hard Rock chairperson Jim Allen said the company has lined up at least three potential sites in New York for a casino, though he would not identify them. But he did say the soon-to-open 446-room Hard Rock Hotel New York would not be one of them.
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”You have to have a footprint of real estate large enough to take advantage of the size of the market," he said. "We're extremely proud of our hotel on 48th Street, but its footprint is just not large enough for gaming. As far as other locations, really we're waiting on the governor and the committee that's going to be sending out the request for proposals to see what language is in the bill as to geographic locations that would be acceptable to the state."
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The New York hotel, which is already accepting reservations, will feature a rooftop bar, a 34th-floor penthouse and live music in multiple public spaces. It also will include The Venue on Music Row, an entertainment facility that can hold 400 guests for concerts, fashion shows, after-parties and dinners.
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Old Posted Dec 18, 2021, 4:26 PM
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It'll be interesting to watch this unfold and compare it to what is being proposed in Chicago.
Maybe, but we keep New York threads focused on New York. There will be casinos opening across the country and elsewhere, but we’re focused on NY. We won’t be comparing anything here.
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Water Club owner wants to get rolling on NYC’s East River with ‘Monte Carlo’ casino


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December 15, 2021


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Manhattan’s East River waterfront is being eyed as a location for a “Monte Carlo”-style casino that would immediately become the world’s “hottest” gambling facility, its promoter says.

The planned East River casino submitted to the state Gaming Commission is the brainchild of Water Club restaurateur Michael “Buzzy” O’Keeffe and would be located next to the floating eatery off East 30th Street.

At least nine casino operators expressed interest to vie for three downstate casino licenses, according to preliminary outlines submitted to the gaming commission.

It was not clear from O’Keeffe’s proposal who would be his partner to operate the gambling side of things.
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The casino would be 24,000 square feet and would have a modest 100-car parking lot.

He said 450 feet of “open deep water pier” could be used to build more gaming facility space or “float in a custom casino.”

O’Keeffe, who also owns the waterfront River Cafe in Brooklyn’s DUMBO, also emphasized high rollers would have accessibility to the casino from the nearby heliport and private ferry service.

River gambling is the way to go, he said.
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”New York, The World’s Capital, should have a beautiful and upscale casino (so maybe the next James Bond can play a hand of poker in New York),” he added. “One casino in Manhattan will end up as the hottest casino in the world.”

Among the other casino operators who submitted proposals are MGM Resorts and Genting. MGM owns Empire City Casino at Yonkers Raceway and Genting runs Resorts World at Aqueduct raceway.

Both operators would be interested in applying for a license to convert their slots parlors into full-fledged casinos.

Others who submitted preliminary proposals: Bally’s, Las Vegas Sands Corp., Wynn Resorts, Hard Rock International, UE Resorts which operates the Okada casino in Manila; and Rush Street Gaming, which operates a casino in upstate Schenectady.
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^ that's going to turn out way more stucco than monaco.
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The new Sin City? Gov. Kathy Hochul could FAST TRACK approval for three new casinos in NYC-area aimed at wealthy gamblers within days - including a 'Monaco-style gambling den atop Saks Fifth Avenue'

The governor and Dem leaders are expected to hammer out a deal that could see a casino for high rollers atop the famous shopping location

The deal would allow gaming licenses to be rushed through as part of the state's budget at a price tag of $1billion

Currently, only three of the state's 25 casinos are 'downstate' - one in Queens, one in Yonkers and a third on Long Island

The betting companies have spent about $300,000 a month to try and bring the casinos to Manhattan

The Hotel and Gaming Trades Council, who endorsed Hochul's re-election bid, are also lobbying hard

The union has given over $880,000 in campaign contributions to Democrats in Albany since 2020

Eric Adams' chief of staff Frank Carone recently met with Robert Goldstein, the CEO of Las Vegas Sands. Adams wants at least two of the three licenses to go to New York City

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New Jersey had a chance at capturing some of the Manhattan gaming market, but politicians wanted to keep the Atlantic City monopoly on life support. Looks like New York is being smart and will capture all that gaming revenue. I don't know who visits Atlantic City to gamble, but I'm thinking one or two casinos in Manhattan is going to cut into their market share.

New York City is the greatest city in the world and that should include being able to legally pay a game of blackjack or Texas Hold'em poker if I'm so inclined to spend my money on that entertainment. That stupid so-called casino in Queens doesn't count.
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This is why there needs to be term limits at all levels. When people stay in positions of power for too long, they start to feel like their personal feelings and opinions are the only things that matter, loyal subjects be damned.


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The longest-serving state legislator is nervous about proposed Manhattan casino


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Apr. 05, 2022


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Manhattan Assemblyman Richard Gottfried is nervous about a proposed casino in Manhattan, a possible inclusion in the delayed state budget still being debated in Albany.

It’s Gottfried’s last budget before retiring after more than 50 years in the Assembly and he’s thinking about the “degrading influence” a casino in Times Square or elsewhere could have on the borough he’s represented since he was 23.

“I’ve felt this way as long as I can remember, is that I generally don’t like casinos and would not want to see one in Manhattan,” Gottfried told Errol Louis on “Inside City Hall” Tuesday. “I’m pretty nervous about the whole topic, but I may well have to get used to being nervous about it because Albany does not do everything exactly the way I want it to.”

“Never has,” added the longest-serving legislator in the state Assembly’s history.
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The proposed casino would recieve one of three remaining licenses set aside for downstate.

Still, Gottfried noted, casinos create jobs for the hotel and entertainment sectors, which have suffered during the pandemic. He conceded the legislature could structure the proposed casino in a way he could live with.

“If there’s going to be one in Manhattan, I would do my best to keep it as small and upscale as possible so that it does not have a degrading effect on whatever area it’s in,” Gottfried said.
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Just put it in Times Square. No degradation lmao
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the Marriot Marquis has kind of a casino look...
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the Marriot Marquis has kind of a casino look...
I don't know if their religion would preclude it, but I'd like to see a casino rise on the Qatari's site where the DISGUSTING Manhattan Hotel in Times Square currently festers. This vile piece of excrement defiles an entire block.



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The issue with a Manhattan casino is that to have a good casino you need big floorplates, and that would be a hard site to find in Manhattan. Something in Times Sq or Herald Sq would be fairly small and crappy. Even the current Resorts World in Queens is fairly "meh", even though I hear they are making tons of money.
I am also surprised none of the official proposals are floating Coney Island, I think it would be a great spot there as well.
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The issue with a Manhattan casino is that to have a good casino you need big floorplates

Says who? Just because suburban campus casinos are set up like this doesn't mean that a tighter urban casino with plenty of vertical circulation couldn't be just as successful.
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^ The HY towers are full. Then there’s the issue of tenants. None of the current (or likely potential) tenants would want the chaos of a NYC casino in their building. A hotel is another matter, and would be best for a casino.

They could have put one on the pier (behind Javits), but that’s a park now. The larger of the 2 sites the state owns in HY would be a good location, next to the Javits. But they likely want housing there.




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5 Things to Know About Casinos That May Be Headed for the N.Y.C. Area
Yonkers, Queens and maybe Manhattan: The sites for three new casinos have not yet been set in stone.



By Dana Rubinstein
May 2, 2022


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Whether New Yorkers are ready or not, casinos will soon be coming to the New York City area.

Precisely how soon and how many remains to be determined. What we know now is that in April, New York State approved the issuance of three new casino licenses intended for the area.

Technically, one or more of the licenses could be issued to a casino operator in another part of the state, but they are widely expected to go to the downstate region.

The state legalized casinos in 2013, but effectively agreed not to place any in the downstate region until 2023. Gov. Kathy Hochul and the State Legislature wanted to move faster and included a provision in the recently passed budget to advance the timeline.
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MGM’s electronic gambling facility in Yonkers, just north of New York City, is thought to be one of two locations with a leg up in the process, along with the Resorts World facility at the Aqueduct Racetrack in Queens. Both are already home to “racinos” — horse racetracks that have expanded to include casino-like properties, but with video lottery terminals, not table games.

Given their longstanding community and political relationships and pre-existing infrastructure, they are considered to be favorites for two of the three licenses.

There is a strong possibility that the third would be in Manhattan. While the prospect of a Manhattan casino has bewitched developers from Hudson Yards to the East River, winning permission from local politicians is still considered a heavy lift.

Other parts of the city are also in play, including neighborhoods in Queens and Brooklyn.
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MGM and Genting, which operate the two so-called racinos in the area, are hoping to upgrade their facilities in Yonkers and Queens to full-scale casinos.

The competition for the presumptive third license is a free-for-all. The matchmaking between real estate developers and casino operators eager to take part in a bid is something like speed dating — with casino operators freely consorting with several developers.

Among those who have considered participating are developers like SL Green, Related Companies, Vornado Realty Trust in Manhattan and the Citi Field owner, Steven Cohen, in Queens. Joseph J. Sitt, the chairman of Thor Equities, is also planning a bid for a site on Coney Island.
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There will also most likely be bids from Long Island.

The field of casino operators eyeing the opportunity includes Bally’s Corporation, Las Vegas Sands and Hard Rock, which just opened a hotel in Midtown.
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If the bureaucracies were a Russian nesting doll, the biggest, outermost doll would be the New York State Gaming Commission.

The commission will have a say on who gets the three new licenses and where the new casinos will be situated, but others will have a voice, too.

The first step is for the commission to fill a five-member Gaming Facility Location Board; its responsibilities include creating and managing the application process for casino developers and recommending the winners. State law requires that at least three members be in place by Oct. 6; once that occurs, the commission will have 90 days to issue requests for applications for the casino licenses.

The applications will then be reviewed by the location board, which will make a final recommendation to the Gaming Commission. The commission’s makeup would seem to give Governor Hochul some control: All seven members are appointed directly by the governor, one on the recommendation of the New York State Assembly, and another on the recommendation of the New York State Senate.
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A glut of casinos unquestionably exists in the United States, as well as a wealth of other gambling options, and that has put a damper on economic projections for many new casinos.

But New York City is different.

It is affluent, it is dense and any casino here is likely to be successful — albeit at the possible expense of nearby gambling locales, like Atlantic City.

“ You have access to a huge local population that already has been fueling a lot of gaming revenue for a couple decades now in the broader geographic region, but it’s also a huge international destination as well,” said Colin Mansfield, an analyst at Fitch Ratings.

For further evidence, look no farther than Resorts World at Aqueduct, which despite having no table games like blackjack or roulette, claims to be both “the highest-grossing slots casino in the world” and “the largest single property taxpayer in New York State.”
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In order to put a casino anywhere in New York City, a developer may have to persuade the New York City Council to rezone the land in question, according to the New York State Gaming Commission.

At present, land regulations in New York City do not allow casinos. But that may not be a blanket prohibition: The commission has yet to determine if the state-owned land at the Aqueduct, in Queens, or the land near Penn Station (which the state plans to redevelop using a process that typically overrides local land-use regulations) would require rezoning.
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